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ALSO - I assume Meri wanted the middle unit because it was the best one, right? Cuz to my mind the easiest fix would be for merit o be top or bottom so that J and C kids could freely move between the 2 units.

I suspect Jeremy was Virgin hunting over at the Big Sandy Christian Fellowship Festival and Cult Convention. As far as why MacWhatever appeals to Jermy I would say it appeals to his "I wanna be an intalectchual" ego nonsense. Dont they spend an inordinate amount of time parsing out the "ORIGINAL WORDS" of the Greek or Hebrew etc etc to try and prove that their interpretation is the ONE TRUE CORRECT VERSION!

I recall video of Jeremy preaching about saving the heathen, evil Catholics in Texas. What an asshole.

Lesser, lol. Reminds me of the Marlee Matlin movie but slightly changed to “Children of a Leaser Wife”

I would REALLY love a storyline about Janelle suing K and R to get the $$ she leant them for the McMansion. Kody's head would EXPLODE

we are all kinda assuming that robyn's worshipful adoration of kody is genuine. its possible that he's WAY more into her than she is into him and she wasn't counting on having him around 24/7, breathing down her neck and looking for intimacy every night. mayBe she thought she could get all that tlc money and a nice lifestyle whist being a part time wife. 25% of kody is plenty.

but probably the only kind she knows. thats the kind of marriage youre bound to have in their cult

@GeeGolly while I agree husbands shouldn't have to be handled. there is an element of ones spouse knowing the best way to approach you with something difficult. I'm better with mu husband than his sister for example. She has a way with him that's often counterproductive. I suspect that in the Browns' family, the OG3 wives probably knew how to handle him as a group to some degree, but now w Robyn the Kody-whisperer, along with 25-30 years of having done it, they're just like F it. let her have him, I'm tired.

there was also a bit of - I'm just doing it correctly! IF they did it like I do, he would love them equally! Which, yikes. While I might agree that Robyn is more skilled at "handling" Kody - its just representative of why this whole concept of plural marriage in modern America is not feasible. We all want to be loved for who we are. Kody wants to be put on a pedestal where he is obeyed and no one talks shit about him EVER, but his affection and loyal are conditional on this. Which is a very long winded version of KEEP SWEET. The other women have left the compound but Robyn hasn't. As it stands, Robyn is succeeding with her approach, however I think she knows or suspects that with the others gone it may not work as well. She needs other wives to be compared to in order to keep Kody believing she's the best and to keep his focus off her shortcomings.

How does Helen manage to look so lovely in coveralls and sweaters?? She was just gorgeous for the wedding and I was swooning over her bouquet. My husband the dog lover said that was his kind of wedding - 8 human guests and 3 canine guests

My main beef is that Jesus directly specifically said there is no marriage in Heaven, see Matthew 22; 29-30.

I think its code for "Be nice to Robyn." I am thinking back to when C put K on the spot about would they ever be intimate again and he told her is she was a "good sisterwife" which is VERY interesting in retrospect. He didn't say a good WIFE, he said SUSTERWIFE so I think it was code for "Be nice to Robyn." And ALL this is interesting vis a vis the troubles they had years ago when Meri was terrible to Janelle. Did K withhold sex from M back then? If not, why not? Are the rules different now then they were for Meri then? there have been some moments lately where J and C have had facial expressions hen talking to K that seemed to me like genuine puzzlement, like "who is this guy?" It really leads me to believe that R is the source of the dysfunction - she has created a monster and I do think the situation bay have gotten away from her. I'd bet in her mind she doesn't understand why no one likes her - even though she is clearly unlikable, and having a shared husband putting everyone on blast is NOT going to make them like you more.

If a person has, say, eighteen children it would certainly be tough to remember every birthday. If only there was some technology that would fit maybe, I don't know? In your pocket? That you could carry around with you everywhere you go? Which might have this function where you can add important dates into it and it would-- hmmm,... just spitballing here...send you a little REMINDER? Like, on the day? And then when you get up in the morning there would be a little text to yourself - saying HEY ITS YOUR KID'S BIRTHDAY YA DOUCHECANOE! And look! Their phone number is programmed right in this same little device ad OMG -- YOU CAN CALL THEM RIGHT FROM HERE. If only. If there were such a thing there would be like, literally no excuse.

Ok so its hard to keep the timeline clear as well as the crazy covid history - BUT, if this was late summer 2021, there was indeed an omicron wave, Our family had planned a big family trip for that time (Aug 21) , and when it was planned we didn't think we needed too many Covid precautions but by the time it rolled around, we did do some mitigation efforts (Didnt eat at restaurants, tested before going, wore masks in public. We had 2 babies coming, one who is a bot medically fragile, a pregnant person and a cancer survivor with us). Also at that time, adults were Vaxxed but not kids yet =- so might that have something to do w hugging mykelti ok but not truely?

Reminds me of the saying - "If you meet an asshole in the morning, you met an asshole. If you meet assholes all day long, YOU'RE the asshole."

The bloody messes don't scare me though, they just make me go Ewww. The scary part for me is the suspense, the psychological stuff. I was scared to death by Bram Stokers Dracula w Winona Ryder and I dont recall that being so blood n guts

one little thing annoying me - why re they such sloppy eaters?? They let the blood run out of their mouths. Its all over their clothes. It doesn't make sense to me.

I usually cant abide dubbing - this was done so well!! I was ALL ABOUT the costumes but had several times where I thought , that's way too modern. - The wedding gown sheer top w aplique lace was one - and the netted top she wore to the Maximillian Rave party. But wow what a feast for the eyes! The evil lass's maid's hairdos cracked me up. I want Season 2!!

This is an aspect of the fundie home school culture that I don't know if its a feature or a bug - like Michele went to a real school and therefore was KINDA able to teach her kids the basics, as she had professional instruction. However, you know there were holes - things she herself never understood and so she either taught them incorrectly or not at all. But these holes will get bigger with every generation -- they will get farther away from any real theory of education or access to someone who actually understands the material. I know people who homeschooled - but they are college educated themselves and also know where their personal weaknesses are and have made arrangements for help there - other teachers, on-line classes, etc. Jim Bob et al may think that education isnt important but I think the downplay how crucial their own organized education has been to help them succeed in their own businesses. How are the grandkids going to be business owners when/if they cant keep up enough to get a GED?

It's posts like this that make me worry about Joy's emotional health. I think her fears about her ability to parent are 100% related to her traumatic childhood.

There's definitely a mental health/resiliency difference between the two women. Christine just strikes me a more resilient and able to believe in the possibilities of the future. She believes that she can maker her life better, on her own. I don't think Meri has the self esteem or the resiliency to do it. She keeps trying to talk herself into it, on her social media. She tries to convince herself that she's #LIVINGHERWHY but I don't buy it for a second. IMO, she traded one cult for another in a desperate attempt to find a new community to belong to.

For sure. She’s had her eyes opened. I think Meri can’t let go of the faith at least in part due to a “sunken cost” idea. She’s spent her entire adult life dedicated to the lifestyle and to admit it’s bull shit would make it all meaningless which may be just too much for her to handle.

I don't think you can discount their religious belief that you need to be sealed to a man to go to the afterlife/ heaven/planet/whatever. AN eternity in outer darkness is the alternative if I have my facts together, As an aside, without speculating on her sexuality, I don't think Janelle gives a shit about intimacy with Kody. I've had that impression since their "anniversary trip" (camping) WAYYYYY back. I think she pretty much said she doesn't care? I think she wanted kids and that plus her faith = Kody seemed like a good idea. Once she had her kids I think she was done with the "romantic' part of the relationship.

while i get your disgust, i would also say -- as what? does she even have a HS diploma? who wants to hire a 50ish woman w no work experience and no education + the baggage of being kind of "high profile" in a bad way? I would say she might be a great nanny/babysitter, but I wouldn't want my kid to be potentially around paparazzi and that BS.

Like the porta-potty "sail" on Tom Hanks' homemade raft in Castaway