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Even worst, Brick was getting his bathroom cleaning tips from Youtube. Really? Did he watch the guy do that with the toilet? Where did he get to the point he thought that? How about when he realized that his girlfriend, Weird Tall I'm doing TV movies and the writers have to say I'm always growing when I'm not around Ashley. Was kicking the Heck's car, being a bitch at times and the found out her parents mooched off everyone and bullied people into giving them money because "We deserve it". You just asked the question: "Why would anyone want to date or associate with her or her family?" But it was played for laughs and that it was: "See she is the only person who gets Brick because her family is weird." When no, it came off that the Hecks just didn't think things through or ahead. Ashley's family were just horrible people. I know that was hilarious, but that was another thing that wrong with The Middle were the schools. I mean the teachers came off they got their degrees through mail in rebate. They NEVER talked to anyone. David Foley's character came across as someone who would have been kicked out of the district years ago and don't get me started on the classic ABC's take on principals and vice principals. I'm surprised they didn't show us the school board being a bunch of lazy, drunk morons.

Pretty much, similar to Atticus from The Middle. He was not only playing Brick, but was also doing voices for The Lion King Disney series and also doing a few video games on the side too. As they say: "Have to pay the bills."

You know this is actually touching. Though I think season 10 should have been it if the producers and ABC wouldn't have been so greedy with things. But wow! Look at that!

Oh I know and like I've said it's gotten to the point where the "Mean Housewives" have become a parody to the point anyone who did these things regularly or believed the crap that Katie tells them to get them riled up or to just leave her alone. Would be in jail by now or ran out of town.

That happens. I burn very easily, but when I'm outside longer in the summer I get very dark. It can be early October and people ask if I've been tanning and I just tell them it's just how my skin is.

It would also make no sense when they dropped something and then brought it back because the writers either liked the plot point or something. Brick's lawn chair going away was because the writers at the time thought it didn't make sense to still being using it when they had plenty of dining chairs. Then other writers were: "We miss the chair, it was so funny, let's bring it back." Then having it fall apart and Brick someone how getting unlimited use of payments from Amazon and ordering over 30 chairs. Including him going: "I never knew I could do this!" They really made the Hecks not only lazy, but stupid as time went on just to make the plot work. Brick was the prime example from his teachers thinking Brick was purposely doing things to them because Brick did strange things he couldn't help himself with. Because you know, in a school staff and admin wouldn't have been talking to each other how Brick does weird things and no one has EVER thought of having him tested for ADD, OCD or Autism. It's suppose to be weird and funny. Don't get me started on the bathroom episode where Brick thought 2000 Flushes meant you flush the toilet 2000 times and he somehow made NHS? Mike just wanted to do his job and not be noticed. Yet, he got upset how his bosses treated him, people would "force" him into doing things and instead of saying: "Would you just let me be if you want it that bad you do it!" Instead he goes around looking like a whipped husband and so stuck in his old ways he hates change. Sue acting like she was still 12 and the fact that even Eden Sher said it got annoying and the only reason why Sue got her braces off was both because she was having problems talking and so the directors were tired of doing multiple takes because they couldn't understand her. So the reason that Sue had braces on all the time was because "She had spongy bones" which can happen, but orthodontists put on fixed retainers and so forth. Yet it isn't until Sue's teeth go to looking like she was caught in a fight. Then when he does say he'll just use a retainer, you can tell Richard Kind who played the orthodontist, he has a look like: "Oh this is really dumb, thank God I'm getting paid for this." Also, let's not forget how Brick went on a hate spree in the movie theater because a bad adaption of Planet Knowhere was being made. Yet he thinks it's the movie theaters fault and the fact he "had never been to a movie theater in his life until 14" which really had people scratching their heads.

How true, you think at that point, Fred would at least come to that truth. My own father-in-law has admitted that and trust me, he is very hard to make happy. Something I also noticed, how everyone was "tired" of hearing Fred's war stories. It's another example how much Jill took after him. Jill had to constantly talk about moving away growing up where EVERYONE to her own mother-in-law and brother-in-laws couldn't take the stories anymore. You think that clue either of them in that maybe they should shut up and listen to others.

Exactly! Yet, Fred can't just help hating Tim for some reason or another with a "hey you". Even when Lillian revealed to Jill that she had stopped doing dancing and other things because Fred hated them to the point she just gave up. Yet, she didn't dare tell him he hated his war models and got tired of hearing about his "good old days". Yet, the thought was: "Just do whatever to make your father happy." Then you turn around 50 years later and look at the mess that made. Or the fact that as soon as Lillian decided to try and date again, she immediately was back enjoying it again. The way it was written and when Lillian explains that Fred was who hated doing things to the point Jill and her sisters thought it was Lillian who didn't enjoy it. Just rings that it came up several times, but Fred wouldn't budge at 20, 30, 40, 50 to his 70s. Screw what his wife enjoyed!

It was funny how much Heaton would defend the Middle even when the episodes were completely stupid and yet Charlie McDerment (Axl) didn't hold back saying how something was completely stupid. I mean he did try leaving the show twice, but even with all that, it never came to the point where TPTB were about to do like other shows and be: "Oh we aren't good enough for you? Good luck finding a new job!" He even said he never understood what Axl say in brain dead Stacy and thought he was thrown together with Lexi way to fast. Even said that Axl's college must be a pretty bad team if they threw him in and he lasts barely 3 seconds, but can stay on the team and keep his scholarship even though he benched warmed the entire 4 years he was there. You do have to wonder of the creators really didn't care if their stars said bad things or really realized it was pretty stupid, but hey ABC wanted them on the TV and people watched. So who cared!

I noticed something interesting on how they have gone back to a more color uniform. I do like the new com badges, but interesting they went back to three piece uniforms with color tops. Something the cast all talked about after they did the DS9 uniforms was how much more comfortable the costumes were. They could roll them up. They weren't riding up like the old ones. Even when they went to the "grey" movie uniforms. They even said how they were more breathable. Where Discovery said the uniforms varied depending on the episode.

You know it was like with Jill's sisters, they were great career wise, but marriage and family wise they were pretty big screw ups. Even when they wrote out Jill's sister having the girl, Sloan. It goes to the point where how could Fred and Lillian not be: "God, why can't my other daughters just get their personal lives together. The only grandchildren we have are with Jill... and Tim!" Or how about the fact, that much like everyone else, they didn't really care about Jill going back to school either. I find that just... odd. Lucille was supportive and offered to help with the boys more when she moved back in the area. However, Fred and Lillian could care less, would just drop in when they wanted to. My own father-in-law has not been supportive of me doing graduate school. Feeling I should just got a really good job and support the family and just listen to him all the time. Yet, never grabbed the concept to get a really really good job I had to finish up a degree. Plus, he was one to talk, he worked three jobs with three kids, was fired when his youngest had a medical problem and had to file a lawsuit to get a job with the government, which was the really really good job he later retired from. I know they were trying to paint Jill's parents as stuck in their ways and Fred saying the weather was great when a tornado would be a few blocks from his house. But it got to the point you wanted to wonder how Jill and her sisters made it to adulthood. Same with Tim's brothers. They all came off like they were raised by wolves.

Oh, I know that's what made the show great. I also got a kick out of when Sue was trying to be recruited by another fast food place at the mall. Sue kept bringing up what they needed to do to get her. The manager was like: "Ok" but then would give a pretty lack luster comeback including just a dime raise and able to wear different pants on Friday. Sue's reactions are priceless.

Why I stopped caring about when they complained about money problems. They were at their own damn fault spending money out so much. Mike let his company take advantage of him. Frankie didn't know when to save some money. Plus, Frankie was "always tired" for some reason. Hell, first time we saw her at home, she got on her couch and wanted her mom to make her a sandwich like she was still 10. Apparently Frankie's mother spent too much time doing everything for her and didn't teach her how to do anything. If it was 2015, ok, but Frankie was in her 50s. You learned how to DO THINGS growing up.

Sometimes I feel like people are bitter over how things went on later on. While others like JTT and Allen were: "You know what, mistakes were made, time has passed, time to move on."

Forgetting got really, really painful. I also remember when they decided to explain in the last 4 episodes why they always ate out and were so low on money half the time. Frankie's: "I keep using coupons and getting tons of frozen food, but I'm too tired when I put it away." I remember someone on twitter asking Heaton if Frankie had a thyroid problem and why she was always so tired. I think she replied along the lines of: "Frankie is just like that." Or how Mike was looking to make lunch for him and Brick and he finds 3 bags of just bread heals and then asks: "What should we do?" to Brick. I don't know Mike, maybe go get in a car and buy some DAMN bread!

Right and that's one of the things that came off as "contraversal" with the show. Here it was the wife was always after her man to have sex with them. Instead of the wife: "Oh, stop Stan, not tonight I have a headache." However, at the same time Stan at times came off like having sex with Helen would mean he would die if it was more regular than once or twice every 3 months.

How true, Last Man Standing did that the first few seasons and it worked well. Now, they jsut go for "getting a cheap laugh" and it just doesn't work. Fuller House still does a life audience and you can tell in the show it works very well. Ted Danson said it best on Cheers: "There is nothing like a real audience, because it just works so well when a joke works well and you can keep feeding it."

Right and they were trying to explain all the excuses in the last episode and it didn't come off as: "See, we had a plan." It came off more of: "We really, really really didn't feel confident in writing the episodes, so we spun it to the end. Aren't we clever?" It was like the final episode with Mike and the Quarry, you had Mike's superiors even saying they should have been arrested or shut down years ago for screwing so many people or people screwing them. Then the big joke was Mike gets his promotion and is just right next door and has alienated all his former co-workers. Then add in the fact, he didn't know what Skype was but yet could spell it perfectly on a Google Search? Even with the kids saying how much of a flake Frankie was and would get tired of her "next ambition" didn't really do anything. It made Frankie still come across that she was a lazy ass person who just floated in life and then complained when things didn't go her way because she didn't DARE put any effort into anything.

Yeah I know. 3's Company was a classic of a sitcom where miscommunication caused "wacky hi-jinks". However, it did show a simple time on how people stayed connected. I still however to this day don't get why Mr. Roper hated sleeping with his wife. He came off like she was some sex crazed Cougar.

Oh I know. Axel's "struggle" didn't work because he was doing things that he knew he wasn't doing right and the fact you can't just GIVE a job like that out to someone. My best friend's sister drove a school bus for two years, she had to go get a commercial diver's license too. Also, the final season you turned around and between all the STUPID things the writers did to keep Sue and Sean apart because they didn't want to write them as a couple in the final season. But all of Brick's story lines got worst and worst and worst.

Yeah, I couldn't get into it, because it felt like it was them trying to recapture the old series when times have changed. The actors who have all aged very well, are still acting like they did back then. No one really "grew up" and the writers were acting more like fans, hence the "fanfiction" feel of the show. I know people brought up Friends or Cheers doing a reboot and almost everyone went: "No, sorry that story is over and everyone moved on and really, where would they go at this point?" Reboots and revivals like Fuller House worked because it was a continuing of a story. You get so-so like with Roseanne/Connors revivals because the characters are there. However, they go on like nothing really changed. They never learn anything or the actors are projecting their own views on the characters that made them a household name. Instead of where the characters came from. Even the upcoming Star Trek: Picard, it's where the characters ended up and more story still there. Will and Grace, they dumped all the good the series built up and kept acting like it was still the early 2000s instead of realizing much has changed and yet much has been hit with set backs. THAT would have been interesting to see. Not still acting like everyone is still happy that Y2K never happened.

Yeah times change, but yes, it does worry me some days. I have pre-teens at home and one of mine just rather swing in his backyard or retreat to streaming inside, but we make pushes for him to do more. It's a slow process, but works. But times are different, shows are viable on different medias now. You aren't limited to a time and day anymore like you once were. Though I have to admit, reading it pushed more than usual and I see even kids in my classrooms checking out more books in hard cover form or at least checking out graphic novels. Back to the show, the downslide of Marty Taylor started. If you remember, he lost his charter accountant job and began the: "Why do I have to work so hard crap" he carried the rest of the season. Something I didn't notice was when Tim and Marty were saying how they got kicked out of a lot of things. Marty says: "My own house." I went: "When did that happen?" Marty wasn't kicked out by Nancy for another three years. We had Jeff mentioned many times who Tim put in as: "He's in worst shape then you." Which, we later learned two years later he was. When they mentioned Rick in the episode and then four ore times in the show. Sounded like Rick had a gambling issue and was constantly looking for more. Outside Marty who couldn't keep a job or Jeff who kept trying to pull off some entrepreneurship company.

Yeah, it's funny I do remember Zach making some joke somewhere he thought he end up on an ABC Weekend special just when Home Improvement started, when of course it was in a major decline by 94 before all major networks dumped their cartoons and kid show line ups.

I also liked that even Barbra Jean's family didn't accept Brock either. Sure, her dad gave her a free pass, but in his mind, she was making the best out of a bad situation. Even if it was more on her that made Brock cheat. However, it was a more realistic portrayal that both sides of the family were: "WTF! You think we can just act all normal after all this?" It was refreshing for a sitcom. I do agree on Reba at home later, considering how old the youngest was by the time the series started. You think Reba would have been working if not PT at Brock's practice at the time, but at least teaching or tutoring. It was more of: "Oh, well now I have no excuse not to work, can't lose the house even if Brock is paying for the mortgage. That was another thing, despite everything, Brock had to be paying out a ton of money and also more reasons why he was doing the professional tournaments. He knew he had to bring in some extra cash. He was paying two mortgages and child support to his youngest kids and still had to pay Reba. She wasn't getting remarried anytime soon.

I also liked that Reba needed to work again because she knew that she wasn't going to get a lot of money from Brock despite everything. However, her switch to real estate while a long playing story arc (plus successful since Van joined her). I wish they would have gone back to the teaching side. Sure, she was fired from high school, but she could have done middle school or elementary.