Misslindsey

Maddie was on a podcast almost a year ago and she said that if people do not make an effort to be in her children's lives she isn't going to force them. She said her mother, Christine, and siblings make an effort. I cannot remember if she was answering a question directly about Kody or not. If it wasn't it was definitely implied. She did say that her kids do not know Kody or recognize him. She also, said if people do not treat her kids or husband well she has no problem cutting them out of her life.

This. I am a horrible person because it made me laugh.

I thought I was the only one that disliked Bejing '08 Opening Ceremony. Honestly London 2012 is probably my favorite. I too, liked that Paris tried to do something different. There were parts I enjoyed and parts that were underwhelming, but that is pretty much what I think of most of the opening ceremonies. I tend to prefer the closing ceremonies over the opening ones.

I have always thought that Joe Gorga and Teresa have very similar personalities. They both have had some very reactive moments. My problem with it is that there is a bit of a double standard. If Joe does it, usually Marge and co. are okay with it. I think they justify it with the Teresa is so mean argument, when Teresa does it she is the worst. They both should be called out on their tempers, but usually only one is. If Teresa is still in therapy or is trying to be less reactive, good for her. I dislike Joe Gorga so much. His speech was so ridiculous. Marge and some of the others have very little to offer as a storyline if they are not talking about Teresa. If they want her off the show they need way more interesting storylines to offer up.

In all honesty, I am surprised more cast members do not do this or gather information about the others. I do believe Marge does. I think she digs for dirt on the others. I remember on the first season of Potomac, some of the women were clutching their pearls that Ashley Googled Robyn and Juan. I thought the whole time that I would at the very least Google some of these women.

This. I don't particularly like Teresa, but the past so many seasons I have started to root for her. A lot of it has to do with the constant storylines of people going up against Teresa or trying to "take her down". I think a lot of that started around season three. I concur with you that it is tired. I also, find the Fuda's and Marge way more irritating than Teresa at this point. I loathe Joe Gorga, so I always root against him. I wish Marge and especially Joe Gorga would get their comeuppance, but I doubt it will ever happen. Honestly, with this cast, I probably would not watch the show without Teresa. I may be remembering wrong, but when Louie and Teresa got serious didn't he encourage her to go to therapy? I feel like that was mentioned when he came into the picture. I do not know if Teresa is still in therapy. She definitely isn't perfect, but it has helped a bit for her not being so reactive.

Regarding Teresa's housewarming gift to her brother, I thought Fuda left it on the bar saying something like "He doesn't want this", referring to Joe. I thought Teresa then picked it up on her way out.

I agree with Teresa that her brother is a bitch boy. I dislike Joe Gorga the most and for me, there are a lot of people to dislike on this franchise.

If anyone does go, you might be one of the souls that Jill saves! That will probably get you a mention on her social media.

At least there is no chance of seeing Kody in his underwear at Christine's possible plague puddle.

I actually might be more interested in Jubal's family drama if girl child had some sort of issue. I am sick of the focus on Tyler.

I kept forgetting Jill was not actually the primary on this trip. The way she was carrying on one would think she was. The conversation Jill had with the chef and the actual primary where she just steamrolled the whole conversation with her demands was crazy, but also, not surprising since this is Jill we are talking about.

I thought I saw Caleb in one of the pictures towards the end of a row that was either in the same row as Gabe and Logan or one behind them. In one of the pictures that shows Christine there is a woman above her head holding a child, I thought that may have been Maddie. I saw someone on social media in a comment section that said Maddie addressed it on one of her, I am assuming, instagram lives. I think the comment mentioned her being next to or near Savannah or Ysabel. I cannot remember if it was last season or the season before, but I thought that either Gabe or Garrison said they missed Dayton. So I am more surprised that he did not show up for it.

Adding on to so many great posts about Kody ditching the OG 13 in favor of Robyn's kids is that when Kody had an issue with Janelle, Christine, or Meri that he would pull away and/or take it out on their kids, by not really communicating with them. Also, I wish someone would call out Kody on the fact he visited each of the wives and their children (the ones that were around) during Covid, so it kind of defeats the reasoning that others in the family could not get together, because he was spreading the possible germs to each family already.

And the hope of casseroles.