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Devs – S01E02 The episodes opens with Barbeque Sergei still without covering and there is not one group of employees standing around looking/crying or anywhere near the level of police there would be even in a fairly gruesome suicide. Forest sits and tries to console Lily. He is a little more believable than last time but since we saw him order Sergei killed and watched it happen it is all lies. He tells her about losing his daughter Amaya (now a 50 foot Paul Bunyan statue) and how deeply it affected him. He understood her – Amaya's - loss but on the other hand he had no real comprehension of her – Amaya’s - death. It was something he couldn’t believe and he holds both states of her always (more superposition). Also this is an awkward time to tell someone who just saw their loved one die about the time when your loved one died. He promises her that she will be supported and can stay without responsibility at the company as long as it takes. (this is probably the better to watch her) and she asks to go home. We see Forest drive home – early evening (still light out) – slacker? And he is in a green Subaru Forrester… just kidding an Outback! His house is what looks like a typical tract house, one level with carport and maybe 1500 sq ft. I don’t know if this is to have us believe how expensive houses are in California for even super rich or that he has not been able to progress since his daughter died. Her room is still as it was left when she was dead as if it were waiting for her to return. Meanwhile Lily is talking to her Mom who is trying to see how she is doing. She lies and says she is with friends who are supporting her but it is obvious that she had little support outside of burnt Sergei and maybe some coworkers. She tries the Soduku password one more time and fails. It tells her she is down to 1 more try before it is wiped. /*They should do real sudoku games like this. You cannot even start the game until you figure out the password. That night in San Fran – many night shots of the city – Lily ventures out back to former boyfriend’s place – Jamie – and does actual rock climbing/parkour up to his fire escape. ( Good thing Pete never got thru his 1st 5 crossfit classes.) Jamie lets her in reluctantly. She apologizes for kicking him to the curb. (This is some seriously bad acting by the way) She tells him about the suicide. She needs the Soduku password. Jamie uses some linux i3 windows to check out the app without hacking it first. He sees the code is actually a messaging app sending data back to Russia. (Sergei was a Russian mole?) Lily tells him to go for it and he cracks the password the span of about 2 seconds….. OK Lily is all like , thanks dude but now I have to leave (Jamie reset the password and gives the phone back to her ) and she gives him the weakest hug this side of an eight year old who is made to come out and say hi to a grandma he doesn’t like and splits. Forest at home - gets a visit from Kenton – our security killer. He greets Kenton outside – and Kenton says that they should be OK about the “suicide” but Lily will be a problem. He tells Forest that maybe he should move on from his daughter’s death. Forest assures him that he is letting go of the past and he will be alright. This conversation makes it seem that Kenton is not just some security tough but was maybe a peer back in the day. Lily catches up Lily reads the message from Sergei to Putin and they are typical spy stuff. She consoles herself that she was probably being played the whole time. Then she has an idea and sends a message to the handler that she wants to meet him. Putin sees right thru this and calls her out on it. He sets a meeting time the next day at 9:00am and bricks the phone. (should have gone Pixel Sergei -TWRP could have probably brought that back) The next morning because there has been a person possibly – as far as she knows – killed over this phone she shows up – alone - near the Golden Gate bridge on the foggiest day this side of …. well San Francisco. Anton – Sergei’s contact - looks nothing like someone from Russian Intelligence and more like your friendly neighborhood Russian studies professor. He starts gaslighting her about working for him and …. Putin? He knows that Sergei was killed and tells her so. Sergie was sent to infiltrate Devs and was killed for this. Anton says that they can continue contact by her giving him a signal with her chair full of dirty clothes. Kenton of course is hiding out and sees the whole thing. (he continues to smoke and this makes me think that somehow that will be his undoing in the future) Devs Gold Room Black dude coder has an argument with a young snotnose coder about who knows what. (again this is some very very bad writing) Black dude is called Stewart. (he is the actor Stephen Mckinley Henderson and has been in practically everything ) They are staring at a wall sized screen that looks like you didn’t hook the cable tv up right – just snow. But ….. on the screen it eventually shows a hazy Jesus on the cross and Katie smiles a little for the first time in the show…. Stewart wants to celebrate – they have seen thousands of years in the past - but Forest, Katie and snotnose coder pour water on his celebration. Stewart doubts they can get anything as accurate as what Forest wants because the numbers are too great. (1 qubit = 1 particle in the universe?) I am not going to debate how the type of people who would work on something like this would be about as interested in Jesus as they would be an old Robin’s egg .. Forest asks for some time alone and then uses the machine to look at a hazy Amaya blowing bubbles. Yeah dude you are letting go alright. /) (did I not call this last episode? And I never figure out stuff like this) Jamie is waiting outside Lily’s apartment and has a conversation with Pete who smokes a joint and walks away. She is about as excited to see him as he was to see her last night. Inside her place has about 50% of the light that should be required but people in Silicon Valley apparently cannot afford to turn on lights at night. He hopes she didn’t use the app to contact mother Russia…. Too late. She lies and tells him that she would never do anything like that and he leaves. Pete is playing with his cigarette butt collection and they have a moment. /* There is a nice shot of San Francisco Harbor at night. It is the shot a lot of digital camera reviewers use to use. It is also very similar to a wide screen photo my late Dad took back in the late 1960s when he was working with Bechtel on Bart in San Francisco … surreal moment …. Maybe I need a session on the wayback machine?……. I digress */ Anton drives alone into his garage with Kenton right behind. (Kenton piggybacks which everyone in security knows is a no-no.) Kenton approaches Anton and tells him to not bother using her as he will kill Lily if that is what it takes. Anton calls him on his capitalist bullshit. (this is a no bs zone?) They fight – in slow motion – and it looks like Kenton is losing but he starts to gain the old fingerlock…. we are not 100% sure how it comes out. Fade to black.

Devs S01E01 Nick Offerman looking like Grizzley Adams stares off into the darkness while a lot of mentally unstable people go thru their morning ablutions. Then suddenly …. Light! Was something realized or just discovered? Cut to a female figure coming into focus in a nice apartment the same morning. We are in San Francisco and someone is wearing out their oboe samples on the midi keyboard for this opening music soundtrack. We start with Lily and Sergei two young lovers - engineer lovers - they don’t stop until they have done it the right way! They wake up and have a nerd argument at the breakfast table that is so boring and weak that I have already forgotten about it. When they leave their home a homeless guy is sleep/reading Atlas Shrugged right on the front stoop and they have to ask him to please move. (The fuck?) Homeless dude talks to them using their names to let you know he is a human being (with dirty ankles) and they are humans as well and tell us his name is Pete. They take their morning ride to work together in San Francisco (Silly-Con valley dude) in a fancy company-only bus and apparently they work for a company called Amaya which assures us that they have got our quantum future well in hand. On their way into the office - past the traffic and thru beautiful countryside - we spot their work campus. It is funny because the show tells us we are in San Francisco by showing us the Golden Gate Bridge but then show us other shots that look nothing like the city such as much rolling meadows. (I checked and a lot of this was apparently shot in Santa Cruz - about 75 miles south of San Fran) The Bus has a large face of a little blonde-haired girl and as we approach the company we are treated to a Huge 60 foot statue of said girl looming over the buildings. It is a pretty creepy scene when it is shown that the statue stands in the center of the main campus giving workers the ultimate upskirt view of our giant Goldilocks. Sergei is prepping for a meeting with the man himself – Nick Offerman – here Forest – the founder of Amaya. He is there to show Forest his newest experiment. At the unveiling Forest (keep wanting to call him Nick) is flanked by his head engineer Katie. Katie acts like the actress Alison Pill has just sat thru 10 hours of “learning to act like a head engineer” classes and looks like she is living in a haze. I guess we are to assume that since she is a great engineer that she must somehow be on the spectrum. Offerman (Nick- I mean Forest (damnit) comes in and while he watches their presentation he grazes. That is not a metaphor. His character literally is eating grass out of a box like a bearded cow. Sergei’s experiment shows that he is able to predict the movement of a living organism – a roundworm here – and show this by creating a mappings of its neurons and then creating a model overlay which synchronizes with the worm – showing what it will do 10 seconds in the future before it actually happens. It looks impressive until it goes out of sync after 30 seconds however. (Ruh Roh!) Nick is suddenly not impressed and throws his grass down on the table. He asks Sergei why and Sergei says that it is either the insane amount of numbers that they are crunching are too complicated or it is the quantum where somewhere in the multiverse there is a world where they two are still in sync…..just not this one. Nick tells him that the dog probably didn’t eat your homework in another dimension and he should work on the numbers. All is not lost though as Nick asks Sergei to stay after the meeting where he invites him to join the secret company group “Devs” Sergei is going to the show! Sergei 1st day on the new job debriefing Sergei is being grilled by head of security Kenton – who looks like actor Malcolm Gladwell’s uglier meaner older brother. Sergei was born in Moscow moved to the US as a young adult, graduated MIT and then worked at a couple of startups and now he is at Amaya. He is questioned about his girlfriend Lily - very creepily by the stone faced interrogator (interviewer). // I think we may have a candidate for daily sits under the statue’s skirts….. (side note here. The large little blonde girl’s picture is everywhere around the campus. Her picture is on the bus. She is on all of the screensavers, the walls … everything. Creepy security guy warns him that he is working on top secret stuff and the fact that his girlfriend is Chinese and Sergei is Russian they then must be up to some sort of shenanigans. Creepy guy Kenton asks if he is religious and Sergei’s “no” answer is about as convincing as my “yes” when my boss asks me on Monday if I have finished all of last week’s tasks. They take a cheek swab before he is let in - DNA much? This will not end well. Lily plays a stupid math game with another coder that is supposed to make them seem nerdy but just ends up making them seem sort of pathetic. Is this what they pay their engineers to do all day? Nick walks Sergei into the Dev space which starts as a series of trees with hula hoops around them. Again this is a very large park with giant trees that aren’t redwoods in a public area so we are back in Fake San Fran (Santa Cruz) Nick asks Sergei what he thinks they are working on at the Dev place. He states he thinks it is a new application that is separate from the rest of the company. Sergei is wrong on all of his guesses however - mine this giant little blonde girl is really NIck’s daughter who either died tragically and he is looking for some sort of way to bring her back from the brink or she was snatched or has fallen into some sort of different dimension and Nick started this quantum company as a way to be with her again. I digress… Dev spot They come to a clearing with a very bad CGI building that resembles the outside of a Mayan handball court. There are solid gold shiny 4 by 8 square pillars out front. This is a fancy vacuum sealed Mayan basketball stadium where the only way to get in is to go down a 1970s looking hallway made out of glass and gold. They get on a clear elevator straight out of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory which takes them - horizontally - over to the main lab. (It looks like the building while being at least 4 -5 stories tall from the outside goes down into the ground about the same distance. Of course the entire structure is supported by electro magnetic fields instead of support beams – (only air yo). /* I would like to note here that the CGI is pretty silly looking. It is overkill and somehow that makes everything look seriously fake. Also they need to render the outside building effects about 3 more times before it would look real */ Seriously there is even mystical chanting on the soundtrack now as the composer has just bought in another new sample for his midi keyboard… ….The amount of money spent to create this space in gold alone could have probably been used to buy Apple, Facebook, Google and a few other large tech giants combined and maybe they could have actually produced something? A building like this - which is easily seen from the air (secret is a deodorant too you know) must have taken years to build and would have produced untold speculation all over the web - OK…. Sitting in the center of the main room is the “central machine” which resembles a mid century steampunk chandelier. The wires and tubes are where the light bulbs would be. Here they mention the amount of computing power as qubits which is a unit of quantum mechanics. //Forgive me on this next explanation as I am a poor budget analyst - not an engineer. /*Regular computers deal with bits. They break computations down into bits where each bit can be represented as either a 0 or a 1. (Binary). So a circuit - no matter how many are on a given chip can only be either open or closed. They have current or there is not current. You are limited to what a computer can do by the number of chips containing bits you can squeeze into a CPU. Quantum Computing, however, deals with the subatomic world where things don’t necessarily have to live by rules that make sense. Quantum computers use superposition which frees us from the binary system. Its chips are made up of tiny particles (qubits) which can be a 0, 1 or both simultaneously. This way - I am assuming - the amount of work per chip is almost endlessly powerful - potentially. */ Sergei is speechless and looks like he wants to fuck the computer instead of Lily. Sad….. There are a few “coders” looking at the typical computer screens and Sergei is told the rules. Namely everything is open (no passwords etc - yeah right) code is freely exchanged but there are also no janitors so when someone throws up at the horrible decor they they are expected to clean up their own mess. Nothing can be brought in and nothing can be taken out. // I guess nothing ever needs fixing and no supplies ever have to be brought in/replaced? The entire space is way too dark and bathed only with the light coming off of the solid gold walls. Forest sits him down at a desk in front of a computer monitor and tells him to sit and read code and “don’t worry you are going to figure it out.” He doesn’t actually tell this highly trained smart programmer just what he is supposed to be doing. The room is a joke. Everyone is using the exact same computers - no laptops - and monitors – which are all at these futuristic looking steel tables. Here I am assuming the desktops are just dumb terminals which are plugged into the super chandelier in the center of the room and somehow the great Git hub in the sky checks in everyone’s code magically? The keyboards - which believe me are very important to coders - are just part of the table and have no variety. They look to have the tactile feel of old phone booth number pads. Just what you want to have to type on for dozens of hours at a time- not. The other coders all look generic and young except for a lone large black man who would have been regulated to bus driver in a Silicon Valley company these days. Large black dude gives Sergei “the nod” Sergei keeps staring at what just looks like the /linux porn desktop theme channel at reddit. It seriously looks like someone just went crazy with i3 windows. Sergei freaks out and has to run to the bathroom to throw up. //I get it dude, that happens to me every time someone plays a Kanye West song.// The code apparently is attacking him and will he be up to the challenge? It turns out that Katie is there and brings him over a bottle of water - or is it vodka (Russian Tea?) He stares dumbfounded at the screen and asks her if the code is real. Because if it is it “changes everything.” Katie says that is real. Sergei looks troubled and then after studying the code all day is seen leaving the compound quickly walking at night in what looks like a Friday the 13th movie. Suddenly - loud recorder plugin/sample - there is Forest with sudden light emitting from the tree hula hoops. He accuses Sergei of stealing from him by secretly taking information from the Dev in his smart watch. When Sergei runs away, creepy security officer Kenton jumps out and attacks him. I have to say that the amount of times Sergei must have been bullied in his lifetime should have made him better prepared for this but he puts up about as much resistance as a broken bowl of jello. (The bullies were right all along) He is choked and killed in front of Forest and Katie. Again here Katie uses the only actor affect of just dead eyes and then walks away. (I predict here that we will find out that she was a robot all along.) Back at home Lily is worried that Sergei hasn’t come home and has not contacted her. So she calls him? (Hello show no one under 45 calls anyone anymore. - but I digress) She calls one of her friends too who has worked with Sergei but the friend suggests that he is just pulling an all-nighter trying to impress the Devs and not to worry. We then see Lily back at the office talking to head of Amaya security - Killer Kenton (his wrestling name?) - who pretends to be worried and the pulls up Sergei’s last whereabouts right in front of her - something no security dept in the whole country would ever do - and shows her the screen which shows that Sergei (or Special effect Sergei) walking out of the campus alone. Then suddenly Forest coincidentally walks in and here Offerman does a poor job of pretending to be worried too. They call the cops and file a police missing person’s report because something must have happened. Really? Later that day back at Dev clubhouse Forest sits at the gold posts (see what I did there?) and commiserates with Katie on their bad luck. As he discusses what just transpired with Katie she alludes to the fact that even boring rational guys can go off the deep end when something bad happens to them (like their kid getting hurt) and can become unhinged. Forest agrees. Lily, worried, goes home and does what any other typical girfriend would do. She hacks into his online account and restores his phone from backup and checks all of his past tweets/calls etc. (Sergei then walks in the door having been out fishing with friends ……. Whoops - just kidding). Strangely she sees a Soduku app and knowing that Sergei is strictly a Candy Crush freak immediately focuses on that. It is passworded and tells her that after she misses so many passwords the entire phone will be wiped. Why she chooses to focus on this one app on the hundreds that were probably on his phone escapes me. So then she does what any other typical girlfriend would do….. she goes to her ex for help! Lol. She asks her former live in boyfriend Jamie to hack her current boyfriend’s Soduku app. Just your typical run of the mill request. Jamie upon first seeing her regrets that he has a freak magnet in his pocket… He looks like he has not gotten over his intense relationship with her and basically says, “Nah Bruh!” She goes back home despondent and early the next morning she is awoken up by someone downstairs telling her she has to come into the office right away. Special Effect Sergei’s Bad Barbeque We are then shown her watching footage of Special Effect Sergei walking by the large girl statue on campus (I believe this statue is Amaya - Forest’s daughter?) and sets himself on fire. Again no company/police dept in the world would allow another employee to see this raw footage of what is essentially a suicide but they all sit and watch her suffer. in the security video Special Effect Sergei pours gasoline all over himself and then lights it. We are treated to some of the worst special effects of him catching fire this side of …… the 1980s. She is freaked out and runs out down to the statue where his body is still sitting burnt and uncovered. This is crazy since this occurred last night _ they show us the flames reflecting on statue Amaya earlier in the episode - but somehow his body is still sitting there uncovered ? // The fuck?! She then does one of those women mouth open choking crying jags that looks ridiculous and should be something the actresses friends bring up at every social gathering for the next 5 years to embarrass her. Also - someone else tell me - didn’t we see a burnt body sometime at the beginning of the episode? I mean when they were showing everyone waking up in the morning. I go to check but my Plex server is deciding to be a little bitch at the moment and keeps stuttering. Fade out with the show’s composer - who must have been a fireworks technician in a former life – because he proceeds to end the show like he did his old July 4th bashes with the whole works. We are treated to a massive cavalcade of oboes, chanters and recorders turned up to 11………. Fade out.

I agree. That is why I couldn't bring myself to recap it. I can't sit through an episode anymore. The whole e-gaming part screams of a "Dad trying to hang with the kids in the basement" vibe. Did HBO think they had to attract a younger audience?

Luckyroll3, I believe we are to believe that this is months later and the guys haven't been hanging out together. Maybe they are assuming that the lawsuit has run its course?

Ballers S05 E01 – Protocol is for Losers We Byke! Rock/Spence is chilling on the beach watching the waves go by. His girlfriend who is dressed like a model who has had a surfing magazine throw up on her comes by to ask him to go surfing with her. (She has a board and everything). Umm who is this again? Wasn’t Spence trying to holler at sistah girl from last year (mother of Spence’s illegal recruit)? Spence says no because he is too busy reading his real life fan – Elizabeth Warren’s book …on the beach. I am pretty sure Warren’s book has not been read within 10 miles of anywhere with significant sand and sun but I digress. Spence gets a call and it is the owner of the Dallas Cowboys telling Spence that the Kansas City Chiefs are up for sale and Spence is just pretty enough to buy it. It would look good for the league. Spence says he will think about it and the scene ends with a shot around the back of the Rock’s huge bald head – with shades of Marcellus Wallace. The shot is nice but it shows the complete beach and water all around Spencer and there is not a soul in sight including his girlfriend who just went out into the water to surf. Did she drown or get eaten by a shark? Joe is in his Maserati blasting Nipsey Hustle on the stereo. Am I the only person who had never hear of Nipsey before he died? (don’t hate the song is bumpin’) He is driving out to meet Russel Brand! I was told there would be no Brand this season! A quick look at imdb shows that the last significant role for Brand in the last 5 years is the animated movie Trolls. How fitting. I already hate this show for giving Brand a way back into civilization. (neg for you too Katy Perry!) Brand is still vaping because of course he is. To his credit he is using the no smoke invisible mist vape vs the completely enveloping the entire car douche vape. Wait are they partners now? Did I forget last season completely? Yes I did because this show is essentially the football equivalent of the TV show Entourage in that you completely forget it one month after the season ends. Joe says they are being evicted. Are they living together? That might actually be a good idea for a sitcom. (“One’s bald and one’s a Brit and they are both wacky!”) No they are just getting kicked from their office space. Joe is pissed but he has an idea to buy some land and develop it as a training facility for the potential football greats/suckers of the future. And by the way he has already made and offer on one of the parcels – without his partner(s) consultation. We see coach Charles in his office now in a suit making someone else sweat for a change as he tries to get his team ready for the new season. “give me the stats of the stats of the stats on the guy …… etc” The owner of the team comes in – the actor has what looks like a completely different hairstyle – with some bad news. Ricky has tested positive for a banned substance. Ruh Roh! Charles badly pretends to be surprised. Back at Ricky’s place his boy tries to hide the testing letter from the NFL but Ricky gets a text from Charles to come in and his boy gives him the bad news. Ricky is pissed – how could you let this happen? (umm you took the substance and are you really trusting your career to a guy who has a different messaged t-shirt every episode?) Ricky is worried that Charles will cut him from the team and calls his agent Jayson to give him the news about the positive test and they make a horrible joke about him wanting it to be a positive test for AIDS instead of a banned substance. Ricky says no it is for Andro. (Androstenedione is a steroid hormone used by the body to make testosterone – thank you WebMD) Jayson recommends he not fight it and take the 4 game suspension. Jayson calls Charles and somehow makes him believe that the team can’t live without Ricky. Jayson takes lemons and makes Jay’s Hard Lemonade by getting Ricky an extension to his contract and suddenly Ricky is smiling like Denzel on the Fences movie poster. That is until Ricky walks out into the street without looking and I kid you not is hit by a car. (the fuck!?) Back at the office with Joe apparently this is a year after the split with Spencer and this “office” more closely resembles the lido deck on a cruise ship rather than an actual place of work. Reg shows up with a large pink box of doughnuts which just says “doughnuts” on the side of it. What’s the matter show Dunkin wouldn’t pay enough? Reg wants to be more involved with the firm and is pissed that Joe didn’t tell him about the eviction directly and that he has placed a bid on the land. We know he is serious here because he is actually wearing sport coat with his white t-shirt and jeans. He wants to prove himself more than just being Vernon’s boy. It looks like they are literally trying to tie everyone into the plot in the first 3 minutes of the first episode of the season. This does not bode well IMHO. Spence is shown being interviewed about his upbringing and it shows his dad being super tough on him and his brother training them for football. It also shows his brother not reacting to the tuff love well and quitting a session. I guess this is to show that is why his brother got on drugs and is dead and Spence is rich and successful. Except that Spence is dishonest, selfish, addicted to prescriptions and thought he was going to die….. oops. There is also no way this kid in the montage could ever grow up to look anything like the same species as the Rock. We cut back to Spence at his palatial mansion with his girlfriend. She is dressed like an older model hanging out between magazine shoots. What does she do for a living again? (Barista? Lawyer? Astronaut?) No need to worry she has an outfit for each. Spence wants her opinion about the Chiefs deal and she is not exactly sure if she has a Chiefs outfit but doesn’t Spence have a bald Svengali named Joe who he could call about it? Spence declines and texts no go on the Chiefs deal. The next scene has Joe berating a new hire for not following up on an important client and he is told to chill by Russell Brand. Joe is upset because he finds out that there are multiple bids on the property he wants to buy. He only wants one of the two lots but now the owner will only sell them both together and Joe refuses. Now we are at an E-sports event. (show is current yo!) and Reg and Vernon are checking out the action. Vernon thinks he should branch out and maybe start to become an e=sport athlete and Reggie makes a funny joke about him being a Tyler Perry stunt double. Spence reminisces about trying to impress his big brother by foolishly jumping into some water 50 feet up and breaks his arm in the process. His big bro had to jump in a rescue him. He reveals even though he always spends time around water he has a problem with it ever since then. Meanwhile the league sends a hottie (Candice – different actress?) over to convince Spencer to reconsider the Chiefs deal. Spence talks like he doesn’t want it but she uses the fact that he is always helping the other players and he would be the first majority black owner. Spence says doesn’t want to be a savior but the Rock likes what she is cooking. Joe calls Spence looking for a friend and wants to get his advice about the land deal and Spence blows him off by telling him he is about to do something important by buying the Kansas City Chiefs. Joe gets pissed and is now all in on buying both lots. Spence agrees to buy the team but he is "going to run the motherfucker my way.” Back out to the beach Marcellus Wallace is back looking at the water and overcomes his fear and walks out into the surf like a boss. End of episode ………….

I may try and recap this if I can stay awake Sunday nights. Someone please tell me that Russell Brand is not anywhere near this upcoming season.....

I saw part of the first episode and although it looks kind of slick, i was not that impressed with it. I have to watch it in its entirety and maybe watch the second episode before I decide. It doesn't look like there is any interest on this forum at the moment.

Wow a dark episode and yet still funny. Gene working with Barry: Alright Barry let’s go over the script. “Scene 1, loss” “Scene two, you shit in a pie.” “So relief?” Lol And Noho Hank on the bus. “We are all on the barbecue bus.”

Hmm. So the cop intended to kill Barry anyway? He was going to be some sort of hero to his ex wife for killing the killer of her lover?

Well what did he have? Was it epilepsy?

OK. Can anyone explain what the daughter was doing to the sales dude by walking on his back? that was just weird. I am also assuming that he was sickened by the eggs - throwing them up - because they looked like the fat dude's cyst on his neck.

I am as big A David Suchet fan as the next man and after the first episode I am still in it. I am pretty sure I read the ABC Murders but cannot remember the whole story. I am a fan of John Malkovich though. I think he looks just like Chuck Close.

I am also assuming that the nuns helped Julia fake her death - fake grave - in case anyone was still digging around. Ganesh, Not having a license/Id can be a bit trickier. My late mother let her id expire and we didn't have a current birth certificate. She was in her 80s and all of the old files essentially didn't exist. We spent the last 2 years of her life trying to get that info but could not. And although she didn't drive, having no valid ID meant she had to stay at her current bank, no airline, bus or train travel. We talked to a couple of lawyers and they weren't much help as things had changed after 9/11. She still had her voter registration card so she could vote but everything else was a hassle without one of us kids to help her out. Don't let your ids expire folks if you don't have a valid birth certificate or passport handy. Also I believe if you get caught driving without a license in VA it is a misdemeanor and a repeat could get you a felony and jail time.

clack, I am not sure what the information was that Amelia had but I believe conveniently Hayes knocks over her book and the page with some information allows him to confirm something. I didn't even watch the whole of episode 7 because I saw no way that this was going to be wrapped up in a way I would find acceptable. I am ok with them doing whatever they want, but in the end, there seemed to be an awful lot of red herrings. Did Hayes remember the girl when they gave him the bottle of water? I am thinking that he basically came very close to seeing her but truly forgot what the heck he was out there for. I liked that in the movie Momento (my nick is an homage) but here it just annoyed me. Oh well.....

Thinking about Woodard. If he was setting up a Rambo situation, wouldn't he have already had his guns out and ready when he ran back to the house? It is not like he knew he would have 2 minutes to set them out.

This year is confusing to me too but I am not usually good at figuring out mysteries early. (I tend to go off on wild tangents lol) On another board I read about this show, there are a couple of people who think everything centers around the chicken plant. The mother worked there and I think even the black guy with the weird eye worked there too. They even went as far as to think that the "children should laugh" line from the note that was repeated by the mother points to the plant. (the idea being here that it may have been a company slogan in the past) They are kind of far fetched, but at this point it really could go in different directions.

I guess I am the only one who didn't like it as much. I basically watch the show like this. the show comes on and I fast forward to the first car segment, once they get back to the talking heads, I fast forward to the next driving bit. Rinse and repeat. I only watch the show to see the great cars so seeing these 2 old trucks and that other car was a bit meh for me. does anyone else watch this way or is it only me?

I don't have trouble understanding what they are saying thus far, but I have always been good in that regard. I was always the guy in college who didn't have trouble understanding my professor's foreign accents (South Asian, Hungarian, German etc) Unfortunately despite that fact it didn't help my gpa much..... I think that when a show is in surround sound it is harder to hear the voices when you don't have a soundbar/separate system as the voices are usually put in the "center" channel which is separate from the others. Sometimes when the voices have to compete with other sounds they can get muffled. I agree that Ali basically talks like a shy 5th grader doing his best impression of Clint Eastwood, but somehow I can hear him OK.

I am also thinking that it isn't a body/bodies since it looked to be at his house. He has already been questioned by the police detectives about missing kids and they told him they had been out looking around his place. You would think he would have hidden/buried any evidence knowing that there would be the possibility that other officers/ FBI could come poking around again and discover them. I could be wrong of course. I see this playing out with him going postal and drawing attention away from the main investigation with the police thinking they have their man, but the two detectives continuing on their own and making discoveries. I keep coming back to ghost Amelia telling him about "something he left in the woods." I don't know if it was something he did to someone (remember how they treated the child molester) or something he missed or lost and was too obstinate to ask for help from the other police officers. He really is a lone wolf imho. PS: Does anyone get the impression that those notes found in the girl's notebook were passed through the hole in the closet by the uncle?

Interesting. I usually download my episodes from the internet. (it works out for me because the kind people who encode episodes take out the commercials) I have already downloaded and watched this episode yesterday. Was there some sort of leak?

MrWhyt and a very large gun at that. I think he smuggled back some weapon from the war.

Sorry everyone I thought the episode was just so so. (I did laugh after they all bought lemonade from the little girl after they called the police) I am just here to shout out to Diane's Pixel 3 phone. Wooo !

That chili looked nasty and Chidi must have the strength of five men because that pot he lifted into the chair had to weigh over 150 pounds.

The robot is a dog pooper scooper. It takes the poop in and puts out some non toxic liquid in its place. I believe it is manufactured by Milgrim industries.

I was worried for the show on where they were going to be headed after the twist but they have delivered so far. I am assuming this show is not a powerhouse ratings wise because it would be interesting to see what happens if one or more of the stars left.