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What was missing here that Dr. Now has explained multiple times, is that as long as there's fat, there are a lot of blood vessels that need to be tied off, and if you miss one it's dangerous. My cardiologist told me there are 5 miles of blood vessels in every pound of fat, which is what makes your heart work so much harder when you're heavy and raises your blood pressure. I had a thought about her behavior. Yes, Tammy can be infuriatingly childish when it comes to her behavior. But she's pretty sharp and I have no doubt she actually understands and retains information given. I suspect she knew all along that surgery was not in the cards for her any time soon, but it's show-driven and she felt humiliated to "perform" disappointment, let alone expose her body for the doctor to analyze in front of the audience. So to me, the shutdown was for being dragged to the appointment to demonstrate that she hasn't reached her goal yet, something she well knows but is being pressured to pretend she DOESN'T know. Amy? I can totally believe she thinks she's ready. Brittany is NOT happy about any of this, and the camera folks are capturing every hostile expression. She has had such a benign resting face ever since this show began that I think things are really bad. (And I suspect a lot of it has to do with them buying that house a YEAR ago and him doing nothing with it even as their kid and grandchild moved into their home, until his sister needed a place, and then suddenly he's all fire motivated to fix it up for HER.)
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It will be interesting to see how things play out - I'm sure they watch the show, so no matter how they've been siloed away from their siblings they will have seen Gabe and others speak fondly of them.
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The scenes between Meri and Janelle reminded me of a talking head when the divorce happened (Meri turning over "legal wife" status to Robyn). Janelle pointedly said at the time that no matter their fundamental differences, she had no expectation that Meri would have ever been anything but fair should Kody have died and she had to divide everything up (the implication being that this confidence did not extend to Robyn.) So whatever grievances and resentments there were between them, she respected Meri's fundamental honesty and, well, fidelity. So I didn't see these scenes as Janelle being manipulative, but respectfully giving the heads up (and of course also feeling for any chance of collaboration on the topic). She may not want to have anything to do with Meri but feel some lingering sense of fairness towards her. And Meri seems to have been under the impression that Janelle was minding the finances, something she personally trusted Janelle with, so that was a vital piece of information to have imparted. As for the kids and David, with age they'll realize the extent to which their mother has been alone for 10-15 yrs as opposed to just being a few months out from a "divorce." Yes, wanting to marry after 2 mos is fast, but barring complete fiscal irresponsibility or safety issues, the stakes are not as high at 50 as they are at 20. Doesn't seem likely that this guy is going to drain her bank account and run for the hills. She's unlikely to become pregnant. If she gets the high of playing Cinderella for a couple of years and then comes down to earth and realizes it's not a lifetime match she can make other choices and still be a relatively young woman.
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Love that Kody has painted himself into a corner of NEEDING these women to spend time with him (on camera) to maintain his lifestyle, while they've all moved on. In his mind, the "aren't we working on the relationship?" script is all he needs to keep Janelle filming with him three hours a year while otherwise ignoring her and their children entirely, but it only works if she doesn't say "nah, what would I want that for?" Deviation from his script is treason. Now he has to stress how good he is with Meri now, looks great for their future! (And even she isn't going to run over and hang out at their place to film when she hasn't otherwise gotten an invitation in two years. )
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I find it hard to believe that she REALLY thought she was near skin removal. I know Dr. Now is really up front with his patients about the weight they need to reach before they even discuss it. I don't believe Dr. Proctor would not have explicitly stated that the skin surgery was for the last 40 lbs or so above the target weight. I know in Amy's case it's just childish wishful thinking that she can have surgery, but given Tammy's actual active, ongoing success, planning how the next year or so would unfold would be the primary topic at any appointment, with concrete goals and timelines for completion of various stages.
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S03.E01: The Fat and the Furious
kassa replied to CrazyInAlabama's topic in 1,000 Pound Best Friends
I like the new people, and I'm on Vanessa's side of this rift, but damn she doesn't make it easy sometimes with going off the rails the way she does. That said, she was pretty f'ing vulnerable not only directly to her friends but on national television, and their reaction was cruel. Even if you no longer want to be her friend, in the moment you could comfort her and just say you'd grown apart, no hard feelings, you're sorry she was hurt even though it wasn't your intention. Sheesh. Yes, I'm sure in her enthusiasm she may have overadvised... but there's no way that overadvice would scald so bad unless you were already feeling guilty and jealous, which they clearly are. Megan, go ahead and ask Dr. Proctor for that "touch up" revision surgery, see how that goes. Just have him open you up every other year so you don't have to change anything else about your life. -
S19.E06: He Delivered Me from All My Fears
kassa replied to Mod-Tranquilizer's topic in Sister Wives
You can go with "God love him" - means basically the same thing. The only reason Kody is engaging with Meri is to film something other than Robyn pleading with him to do something to stem the tide of public disapproval. I have no doubt attempts were made to film with Janelle and even Christine (Janelle has mentioned that he is in contact and that she is the one telling him "nah, I'm good.") Of course he knows there's no hope with Christine, but would absolutely think she "owed" him another sit down for the sake of the show. Meanwhile, she's got 20 other people to film with, thankyouverymuch. Oddly, Meri holds some pretty big cards now where Robyn and Kody are concerned. She was always a toy they could pull out from the back of the closet when it suited them, and was grateful to be included. Now (in show time) the only people they interact with who have spoken in complete sentences on the show for the past however many years are Tony, Mykelti, and whichever gunbuddy Kody spills his guts to next. I'm glad the younger kids are only minimally on the show compared to years ago, but aside from some sulky couch appearances by the older girls, the Robyn/Kody family doesn't even film with each other! The crew seems to have been banned from shooting in their home... but don't they ever LEAVE it? -
S19.E06: He Delivered Me from All My Fears
kassa replied to Mod-Tranquilizer's topic in Sister Wives
I believe Janelle that this is not the guy they married, because he's not even the guy we watched the first several seasons. These women were not cowed by him - they openly mocked him sitting beside them on the sofa, and he BASKED in it. Aside from falling in love with Robyn (he really does glow when he speaks of her, which is pretty impressive after 10 years, and i don't think it's acting), he clearly fell into some kind of toxic manosphere and entered into a midlife crisis of victimization and anger. She wants to buy some land with Maddie and Caleb, have a hobby farm because there's no way they'd actually have a REAL farm, live the rural lifestyle, grow some stuff. This Kody isn't the guy she was married to for most of the last 30 years. She has no interest in dating whatsoever unless the perfect guy falls in her lap. The thought of dating apps horrifies her, and she learned to enjoy being alone when she realized she basically WAS alone within her marriage and now she can enjoy it full time instead of having her pleasant alone-ness interrupted by intermittent Kody appearances. -
Kody Brown: The Man Who Survived a KNIFE to the KIDNEYS!
kassa replied to Rhondinella's topic in Sister Wives
I think the reason for the huge price "drop" was that they bought a house for 800k, did zero maintenance for x years, then doubled the price (likely against the advice of the realtor), convinced a buyer blinded by their "star power" would gladly pay an extra 800 grand for a place that actually had depreciated in value since they purchased it. So eventually the realtor laid out all the inspection issues that people might have negotiated if they'd listed at a more reasonable price, and they caved. And then Christine's suit hit and they're probably on hold until there's some kind of hearing. And even at that point they may have to put a % into some kind of escrow and not be able to bury it in guns and QVC tchotchkes. -
I actually did find Robyn sincere in that driveway conversation. Maybe she's guilty of everything she's accused of, but I do believe that she's been trying to get Kody to fix things (even if one believes it's only to take the heat off her). Sentiment is universally against them, and she at least seems to be grasping it, even if he wants to defy it. Mykelti has referred to David on Instagram as Grandpa, so time will tell...
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He's the son of the oldest (non-singing, deaf) Osmond brother. The brothers' (and Marie's) father pooled all the Osmond money for the family, and lost most of it through bad advisors he then refused to let them sue. So all the original money went up in smoke, and they've been working for decades since. I don't imagine there's any kind of fortune there.
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Hope Keith is okay (assume he is or we'd have heard).
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Bravo is really struggling with these franchises because there are no longer organic relationships driving them. "Friends" are brought on who are merely somebody who shares the same drop off line at school/went to the same college 10 years later. And the newbies all need to "earn" their place by being messy, the core cast is reminded that nobody is safe, and every get together is a screaming match. This show has devolved down to a bunch of people who literally have no affection or use for one another forced to reconcile pretty unforgivable (in real life) conflicts for the sake of "the friend group", i.e. the show. Pretty much the only reality shows that can work any more are families because there is genuine history AND genuine reason for not just walking away without a second glance the moment somebody throws a glass at the table. (Not that I wouldn't walk away from a family member that threw a glass at the table, but many wouldn't) Watching people have rip roaring throw downs then plan a trip together to "heal" is tedious.
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I think there's a difference between passive/aggressive and petty and a simple détente. For this family, the wounds are still fresh, plus you add in having to air their grievances simultaneously behind the other one's back and to their face (via tv) and it gets ugly. But in general, I think adults who have no use for one another can be present at the same event with minimal interaction without making everybody awkward. Doesn't have to be hostile to mutually agree to avoid one another and otherwise have a good time rather than force awkward interactions.