Dusty

If I've learned anything from watching tv all these years it's that all problems are solved by surviving life threatening situations. At least until sweeps. (Are sweeps still a thing?)

I'm feeling generous so I'm going to say that they're going to spend one whole episode after they find out to be upset with Delilah before moving on and being totally cool with it.

There is something wrong with this group of people, aside from Katherine. She is the only one that reacts anywhere near normal and it's not a high bar to reach. The fact that she reacts and feels things for more than two minutes is more than enough compared to the rest of the group. Can there be a spinoff? Katherine and Theo, hell throw in Sophie and Daniel too. They all decided to leave their father's (and mother) toxic group of friends to start a new life in Boston. This is their story. I read an interview with DJ Nash that someone upthread mentioned I think. Basically saying that Katherine leaving is to make Eddie suffer. Sure whatever. But then he says "hopefully makes us feel for Eddie." So...this is all so we feel bad for Eddie. Has nothing to do with Katherine and what she's going through really. How is it that the character he seems to think and care the least about is one of the best ones on the show? And can they at least show Regina going to check up on her or something? Can she have a real friend please?!?! I hate this baby storyline with Rome and Regina too. I hate it because I know how it's going to end up. Regina is going to give in and have a baby. It's going to make me not like them as a couple because the way I see it if it happens is Regina is going to badgered into having it. And I have no doubt it'll end up being something like she was just afraid to have kids because what happened to her or something like that and she really wanted one all along. Or she immediately falls in love with her kid once she has it so it all works out. But I don't see myself ever buying it. And honestly this show does not need another baby. Which sucks because I like them as a couple and characters.

I honestly would've liked that better. I would rather they didn't kill him off at all but if they were going to, this would've been a way better way to do it. Also time skipping literally right after is just cheap. I don't have much interest in watching Veronica Mars solve crime by herself. I loved the show as a whole. That's what gave the show its charm. Not Veronica Mars the character herself. So if that's the case if they do more in the future, this is the end of the road for me.

The actress hurt her knee. I think it might be a torn ACL but not 100% on that.

Oh she totally knows she's lying. When Eve was questioning her at the morgue Carolyn asked her "What really happened in Paris?" and some other things.

I'm glad they changed it. I would've quit this show so fast if they went down that road with Katherine. I remember it annoying me so much when I watched the first episode that it wasn't until I read an article that we were going to see a different side to her and understand her better that I decided to watch past the pilot. I just hate that stupid trope so much. Especially since it only would've been done so it's "okay" for Eddie to have an affair.

This is my problem with the story. If the depression and almost suicide part never happened and Rome just realized that he wanted kids after the fake out pregnancy scare then I wouldn't have an issue with it at all. I think it would be an interesting route to go, while also hoping that Regina doesn't give in. They're already have one too many pregnancy/baby storylines. But if done well, which I don't trust this show to do, it could've been interesting to explore how they would navigate it. But I can't forget about the depression and suicide part, even if it feels like the show wants everyone to. And it'll take more than a couple of scenes for me to be convinced that Rome's change of heart is coming from a genuine place and not for some quick fix. I've always thought him just quitting his job was a rash decision spurred on by Jon's suicide and Rome's depression. Trying to find that one thing that's making him depressed and change that in hopes it'll be all better. But hey, they apparently had the money for him to do that so I didn't have much of a problem with it. But a kid is permanent and it's a lot of responsibility to put on someone as your reason for living. Especially someone who had no choice as to whether they wanted that sort of responsibility.

I think the only reason I do like the Katheine/Eddie storyline the best out of everything on the show, if I ignore the baby thing, is because of the actors are doing a really great job with it and they're just making it look better than it really is. They've elevating the writing. Their chemistry is good and it makes me want to root for them. I feel like Katherine is doing all the heavy lifting though. Eddie seems like he just goes with the flow. There's been no real closure with Delilah/Eddie, also ignoring the baby thing. It wasn't that long ago when he was looking for an apartment that he was talking to her about it being their place or whatever. I would have liked it better if it was Eddie actively making the decision that he wanted to be with Katherine. That he wanted to fight for her and giving her the choice of whether or not they will. To get some perspective is not a good reason to have a baby. I'm so annoyed at Rome for saying that after Regina said she was still worried about him. That's a really crappy way to put it on her. I really hope Regina doesn't change her mind because Rome is making these impulsive decisions on what would be the miracle fix to his depression. Having kids doesn't fix depression. I mean come on! Rome should remember why he's been stepping up with Jon's kids in the first place. DJ Nash really should've just gotten on the writing staff of Riverdale or Dynasty. That's the kind of show he wants to write. It just really bothers me that he's used suicide and depression as a vehicle for his soap opera. Not to mention Regina's childhood sexual abuse and now just throwing in 9/11 in there for the shock value. He's not even doing the subject matters any justice, which can be done in a soap opera. I've seen some soap operas handle tough subject matter really well.

I liked it enough to continue watching for a bit. I could do without so many close ups and shaky camera. I don't usually mind shaky cameras but I wasn't a huge fan of it in this show for whatever reason. I really wish they didn't put in that young agent with a crush on her superior thing. I just think it's done too much. I hope they drop it. I don't really need romance in a show like this so I wouldn't mind if there was no in office relationship stuff happening. I heard it's not really the case anymore but it was one of the things that I appreciated about Criminal Minds when I used to watch that show. I bought her reasoning for never telling them why she gave up the names. She places her daughter above everyone and everything else. Right or wrong that's what she's going to do so while it would've been good if she did tell someone before now, it didn't seem unreasonable. Which also means they need to do something about her. A protective detail or whatever because if it worked before it'll work again.

Oh goodness I didn't even think of that and I'm usually the person when a character starts coughing I'm like "Welp, they're dying." They really better not go down that road.

Welp. I guess I should put aside all my complaining about the show being too soapy. It is exactly what they wrote it to be. I wish they had advertised it that way and also not use suicide as their basis for writing a soap. That bugs me.

Man. This stupid show. I cannot believe they're trying to make me root for Katherine and Eddie. AND IT'S WORKING! But as long as that baby secret is still going on I don't want them on their way back to each other in any way. Continue to co-parent great and leave it at that. Actually now that I think about the baby I'm pretty firm on the don't get back together train. It is the storyline I hate the most out of this show. More than the stupid Barbara Morgan mystery. Also, Katherine can chill on being so insistent on taking some of the blame. It took two people to get their marriage in the state it was in but there was only one of them that cheated. I disliked how they wrote the Gary/Maggie cancer storyline so much in the beginning that I'm just having a hard time caring about it now. And I know that it's a stressful day and there are unwritten rules to parking but Gary always has to make a big scene at the slightest transgression. He did it at the Christmas place with the couple cutting in line too. I really enjoyed the Rome parts of this episode too. They just have not focused on Rome trying to work through his depression enough. It should've been the main focus. Get rid of the Barbara Morgan storyline. Streamline the financials/failing business bits. Forget about the baby and baby daddy story. That's just too soap opera way too early in the show's run. Rome should've been the focus and everyone else also just waking up to their lives instead of just going with the flow like they did in the years before. When they want to they can do it so well.

That would require thinking ahead and I don't think she knows how to do that. To be fair, I don't actually know anybody that has a formal guardianship set up for their kids in case they die but I also don't know a ton of people with kids either so I'm not sure if that's exactly the norm.

Has Eddie or anyone else on the show ever called Katherine 'Katie' before or is that a brand new thing? I skip around the episodes a lot so I could've missed it before but it stood out to me for some reason. I think this is the second real flashback that Katherine has been part of but they do a really good job in those small moments to show the difference between her then and now.

Isn't it romantic when your life has to be in danger for someone to realize they're still in love with you? /s I'm with you. I'm team no one for Eddie for the foreseeable future so if this is the direction that the show is going to go in I really hope, but seriously doubt, that it's a slow burn. Like Katherine is having none of it and Eddie has to work for it. Eddie also comes clean about his baby because I swear if he tries to get back together with her while STILL keeping the secret. Ugh. And also some damn couples/family therapy.

This is what bothers me about the storyline. I don't think they cared to take the time to do it well. With the subject matter they really should've. It just feels like they threw it in there and next episode it'll probably be forgotten about. It's just not the type of subject matter that you should one and done.

Drea De Matteo's character from the most recent episode. The person living in Barbara Morgan's "old" apartment. Most likely Barbara Morgan herself.

Guess we know why Regina's first restaurant failed.

If they kill off Katherine....I swear to the tv gods I will be so done with this show. She is one of the very few reasons why I still watch the show and it'll be such an insult to the character that already gets so little because they would basically be fridging her for Eddie. I know she would be the easiest character in the ensemble to do that to but no. That would be a step too far for me. If they don't want to figure out how to keep her in the group then they should just let her live her best life off screen.

I wish they would go more into the background of Katherine. And Katherine and Eddie. I can only remember one flashback that she really had any sort of part in was the concert one. We saw that she was at least aware that Eddie was starting to drink too much but it also looked like she was supportive of his band and musical career. She went to his concerts. They seemed happy together at that time. I've always had this headcanon that Katherine became more closed off after Eddie became an alcoholic. I just think that must've been devastating. We still don't know the battles she went through with him during that period. I just think it must've done a number on her because their life was seemingly going well. His band was doing well. She was probably getting started in her career and then it all starts to fall apart because of Eddie's alcoholism. So I think she just did whatever she thought she had to so that Eddie doesn't go back to drinking because when she thought everything was great, it all came crashing down. Eddie doesn't have to get a boring job that he hates. Eddie can stay home with Theo, who is honestly probably the only reason he's sober. Katherine then has to be the type of lawyer that makes a bunch of money, because you know their house isn't cheap, which means she has to work all the time. So she can't go to all the fun things with the group anymore. Maybe she wanted to be a high priced lawyer or she could've had different ambitions as a lawyer but we'll never know because we rarely see anything for Katherine. I have no real evidence from the show for this headcanon because we're shown so little for them in the past. From what little I've seen though, I don't think the "Katherine is toxic" narrative from Eddie/Gary started until after Eddie became sober. My dad was what I would call a functional alcoholic. He was always able to go to work and as far as I know never drunk when he was at work but after that was a different story. I don't want to be insensitive to Eddie's alcoholism but I know what it's like to have to watch someone fall down that hole and no matter how hard you love them and try, you can't stop them. So I have a lot of sympathy for Katherine having to deal with that, especially since the worst of it seemed to be while she was pregnant. The trust was broken way before Eddie had the affair and they never got it back. I have a feeling that most, if not all, of the friends were like "Well he's sober now so everything is cool now." Whereas Katherine couldn't do that because she had to live with it and it's just different being the friend of an alcoholic and having to live with one.

Yeah I think that's my biggest problem with Delilah and why I'm having a hard time having any sympathy for her. The affair is on both of them. I don't blame one more than the other for that. What bothers me about Delilah more than Eddie is since then all she's been doing is making excuses as to why the affair wasn't that bad. Whereas at least Eddie, while not at the most appropriate times, has acknowledged to Katherine that he wasn't a great husband either and not because of the affair. but that he wasn't there for Katherine as much as she wasn't there for him and that he didn't recognize the sacrifice she thought she had to make for their family. Like he said to Rome in the episode where they had the restaurant party, "You get what you deserve. And I deserve this." That to me is the biggest difference between them. Basically Delilah seems like the type of person to do a false apology. Like the celebrities that say something offensive and make a public apology with "I'm sorry your feelings got hurt but..." That's not taking ownership of it. That's passing it off onto the person/people who got hurt. Eddie at least seems like he's taken some ownership of destroying his family. All Delilah does is go "Well Jon started it."

Well at least someone said how ridiculous it is that Katherine is helping Delilah. Thank you Katherine's assistant whose name I should remember! Eddie is an ass. No surprise there. Why hasn't he taken off his wedding ring yet? He was so gung ho to move on before any of this happen and wanted to get an apartment that he can be with Delilah in. I know it's a little thing but it bothers me everytime I see it. I hope when Eddie falls off the wagon, because you know he's going to, that Katherine is like "Delilah, looks like that's your problem now. Good luck. And Eddie, you can't see Theo unless you're sober and you sure as hell can't be alone with him until you got this under control again. I've bailed you both out enough." Which won't happen and even if Gary will probably be like "See! I knew she was toxic as hell!" and everyone else would agree. I skipped over the Gary/Maggie scenes. I can't with them. I understand Regina's reasoning for her not wanting Rome to take the commercial campaign job but they should've at least talked it out more to do what they think is best or see if there can be a compromise. Like Regina does ask her mom for a loan but it can be a smaller one because Rome will take this ONE job with the understanding that he's not going to continue to do so and if it becomes too much for him to handle then it's absolutely fine that he quits. Or they move into a less fancy apartment, sell their place if they own it or save money on less rent. Instead of both of them running off and doing whatever they think is best for the other without really talking about it.

I don't know. It might be a good idea if that isn't a real thing. Sometimes kids with siblings get stuffed into small places occasionally. Or so I've heard. Not my sister and me. We would never....

I don't know if this is the right thread for this but all this talk about Nash's interviews reminded me of one I read at the beginning of the show where I thought he said that Katherine and Regina used to be close but apparently what he said was that Katherine and Delilah used to be close. So I guess we'll be getting backstory on that when Katherine starts helping Delilah. It also sounds like they'll try to rebuild that friendship, which...no. Katherine really still needs to work on that "why doesn't she think she deserves better" thing she said to Eddie when they officially split and Delilah just needed to not go to her for help after what she did and her current baby daddy lie. https://www.tvguide.com/news/a-million-little-things-season-1-episode-3-dj-nash-interview/