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I have never been Team Daisy - I think she played Colin and Gary against each other last season and IMO there is no reason for her to give Gary a head's up about kissing Keith. It happened in front of the crew (camera and otherwise). I think she desperately wants Gary to declare his undying love and she's trying to push his buttons. Keith ran from Danni and her hyperactive hormones. He needs to do the same with Daisy. That said, I am absolutely on Daisy's side with regard to Danni. Danni is definitely a delusional Gen Z'er. She doesn't want to work, when she does work, she expects to be coddled and praised, and she wants to be the hottest girl in the room with all the attention. She's clearly stupid if she doesn't realize the basic hierarchy of the workplace. Daisy is her superior and it's not any supervisor's responsibility to "create" passion for your job. In the real world, she'd likely be fired by now. These guests were just terrible, like the last crew. I really cannot stand the high maintenance, super demanding guests that act as if they get a pass because they're charter guests.
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True but honestly, if Dani didn't want Chase or anyone else to know that she had noshed on Gary and attempted to hook up with Keith then don't do it in front of the cameras and don't let others know. She has been pretty obvious. I mean, everyone knew she brought Anthony back to the boat and everyone knew she hooked up with him. This isn't a big secret. Of course it wasn't Daisy's place to do that - but she may have helped Chase to dodge a bullet. Dani is so obvious it would turn me off -- but I'm not a guy in his twenties. How did Daisy forget to order alcohol? What else does she do? Isn't it part of her job to make sure the boat has everything the guests put on their preference sheets? I've said it before and I'll say it again, she is a terrible chief stew. As far as her beef with Cloyce, I think she is just as much to blame. At least for now Cloyce seems to be on his game with his meals and timing so that's on Daisy if he's not being informed of when the guests are being seated and when plates are being cleared. Seems like we're being set up for an interior implosion between Diana being jealous of Dani over Chase and Dani being pissed with Daisy over outing her behavior. At least Keith and Chase are hard workers.
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S14.E4: Twisted Sisterhood
psychoticstate replied to ZettaK's topic in The Real Housewives Of Beverly Hills
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S14.E3: Life's a Beach
psychoticstate replied to ZettaK's topic in The Real Housewives Of Beverly Hills
Sean Penn is a spokeshole. Complete douchebag. I'll never forget that during Covid time, CNN actually interviewed this idiot to ask him his opinion on masks and quarantines, etc. Who cares what he thinks? What qualifies him on the subject? Nothing. If anything, Garcelle probably realized after ten minutes with him that he is insufferable and ran like hell. Watching Kathy deliver those suitcases, just joyriding around town, eating a banana with her 50 pillows and crazy hat was so Kathy Hilton. I just had to enjoy it. Kyle is an asshole for turning the thank you toast to Kathy into a rebuke to Dorit that they needed to talk. Leave it alone for the moment and then take Dorit aside privately later. Don't ruin the gorgeous beach setting and what will probably be an extravagant and tasty dinner for everyone else. I think Kyle thought that Mo would be desperately unhappy on his own but he's clearly not and that's not sitting well with Kyle. Mo looks happy and great; Kyle does not. Not sure why she has a bug up her butt about Mo only buying eight towels. How many does he need? Eight is more than enough for one person. Someone who can't figure out how to turn on the tv or change the temp on your thermostat really shouldn't weigh in on the number of towels. Mo buying furniture for his rented condo would sound like a pretty permanent statement for us plebes, but he makes so much money that it doesn't necessarily mean anything other than he found a place he liked to rent that was unfurnished. The viewers had no time for Teddi and clearly Dorit doesn't care to either. Since when is Kyle the Friend Patrol? Kyle keeps wanting to have a convo with Dorit but doesn't seem to want to admit that she was at fault at least as equally as Dorit, if not more. She said the final straw was Dorit showing everyone her text but she had been icing Dorit out long before that. We viewers watch the show. We remember hearing about the Umanskys and the Kemsleys celebrating Jewish holidays together, having date nights together and traveling together. Kyle needs to stop with the revisionist history of Dorit not really being a friend. I can buy that she may not see some of these ladies outside of filming but I do think she and Dorit were good friends at some point. This could be a great marketing deal for her with Yolanda, our former Lady of the Lemons. Together they could be Ladies of the Lemons. Or Squeeze the Day with Yo and EJ (or EJ and Yo). Yolanda's amazing refrigerator could make a guest appearance. I mean, the options could be endless.- 147 replies
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OF COURSE the crew would still be allowed to go to the beach club, which is probably what they mainly wanted to do anyhow. They will learn nothing. So WTH did Daisy have to send Glenn a text at 6 a.m. about the stains on the furniture and wake him up? Surely she could have continued trying to clean the upholstery and waited until he got up on his own. She talked a big game to Gary about his drinking but she admitted that she didn't want to deal with the damage when it happened because it was 1 am or 2 am and she was drunk. As I've watched this particular franchise of BD since the very first episode, I distinctly remember Daisy getting blackout drunk on every single crew night out. Sounds like Gary isn't the only one with a problem. Frankly, the fact that he could have seriously injured Davide's eye should scare him into stopping with the alcohol. Unfortunately, most of these crews drink like sailors who have been bone dry for six months and are on leave at the first port instead of a group who has worked two days, three tops, since their last day off. It sucks that Cloyce, Keith, Danni and Diana all had to pay for the drunken behavior/antics of Gary and Davide and Daisy's ineffectiveness as a chief stew. I wonder if Glenn had known about what exactly went down if he would have had those three stay back to clean while the others went on the cave exploration? So Danni finally gets laid and she's still just as oversexed as ever, making it clear that she is now going to go after Chase, even though Diana is apparently interested, and also saying that once she sets her sights on something she gets it (conveniently forgetting about Keith and Gary). Honestly, she's absolutely embarrassing at this point; she's a female Gary. Keith may have dodged a bullet there but based on the "later this season" reel at the conclusion of the episode, he's going after Daisy. Why? I think I've said this every season. I don't understand why Daisy has got the men/boys lining up. Does something she has in person just not translate to the screen because I don't get it. Gary and Daisy sharing a bunk - what could go wrong? 🙄 More proof that Daisy is not a great chief stew - there are three female crew members now. All three of them should have moved into the three-person cabin and then let Chase bunk up with Cloyce, Gary or Keith. Otherwise, this episode was a whole lot of nothing.
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100%. It's not that Emma wasn't being properly managed or trained, it's that Emma didn't care to try. Or to work. Even when she was convinced she was going to be fired before she actually got fired, she didn't put forth the effort that most people would if they were aiming to save their jobs. Making mistakes isn't the problem (unless of course it could or does result in harm or injury to person or property); it's that she seemed utterly bored and uninterested when Gary was attempting to explain something to her. I mean, even if she hadn't been doing day dockings and Gary and Keith were normally throwing the lines to the dock (whatever it's officially called), you don't tell your boss or supervisor "well, you and Keith normally do it" and walk away. You can say I've never day docked before or I've never done this during a docking, can you show me very quickly and act like you actually want to learn and do it. Gary has a shit ton of faults but IMO being a capable bosun/lead deckhand is not one of them. And I do think he was legit upset that Emma was getting fired. That said, Emma should have been relieved because it seems she was doing everything to get fired. Glenn handled letting her go like a boss. Very calm, patient and stressing how she just needs more experience. That breakfast Cloyce made looked DELISH. I love breakfast foods and that spread was amazing. Someone should have gagged Danni with one of those lollipops instead of putting Davide's eye out. Can't believe all that shrieking she was doing when they got back on the boat didn't wake up Glenn. Honestly, at this point I wish someone would give her a poke; maybe she'd calm down. Obviously Daisy and the stews are set for an explosion. Daisy knows they have an issue with her but isn't going to press it. Diana doesn't want to say anything because she likes both Daisy and Danni. And Danni feels like Daisy picks on her because Daisy expects better time management. Poor Keith had to bang on that wayward boat's forward cabin (thank goodness he didn't get shot), slept through Emma's firing, was blamed by Emma as one of the reasons for her firing, and then was called a dick by Danni. He deserves better.
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Of course the chef is her type - he's a man. I think Daisy said last season she was 34 or 35. Definitely old enough (IMO) to NOT be getting black out drunk on every crew outing. Not sure what Colin saw in her. Frankly I don't understand why the guest didn't pack or wear swim trunks when going to a beach party. Isn't it kind of in the name? Makes me wonder if it was some kind of production shenanigans. I agree. I would have ZERO desire to go to that beach/pool party. Why charter a luxury vessel if you're just going to leave it and go to some beach/pool party that apparently everyone else under the age of 25 is going to be at? Aren't there other things to do in Ibiza? While Gary is at fault for crashing the tender, because he was paying more attention to the dancer than driving, I will give him credit for immediately asking everyone on board if they were okay. Without getting into the allegations against him (because I have zero idea if they are true or not) and despite being oversexed and creepy, he has always seemed to do well at his job. There has to be a reason that Glenn has kept him on board, whether filming or not. I thought Cloyce's food looked good. What does she mean "children's food"? His presentation was nice, his serving sizes were good and he took their preferences into consideration. Both Emma and Keith said they weren't familiar with driving a tender so it makes sense that Gary would have to do it. But Daisy could have apologized for waking him and asked him if he wouldn't mind taking swim trunks to the guest. It's all about how she just expects him to jump up and do whatever she needs done. I don't know why Gary would want to be friends or "friends" with Daisy because it appears to be a very one-sided street to me. Daisy expects Gary to back off and "respect" her relationship with Colin when it's convenient for her (but also while sending him mixed messages, like encouraging him to motorboat her and hugging on him) but then after blaming him for Colin being upset about the motorboating, etc., she then expects him to pick up the phone and call her immediately upon her relationship with Colin blowing up. She's a user and Gary should kick her to the curb. How long before her stress over/with Gary is going to affect her chief stew duties? In 3 . . . 2 . . .
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Exactly. How many seasons are we going to be subjected to Daisy declaring "this is it" when it comes to Gary? She doesn't want him in a boyfriend capacity but she wants him at her beck and call. And no matter how many times she says it, she was just as guilty as Gary last season. I hate to defend him but he was acting like his usual self and she did not shut him down. In fact, she encouraged it because I think she liked the idea of Gary and Colin fighting over her. So that's on her. And Gary had nothing to do with telling Colin she didn't want to travel with him or visit him (per Colin). Again, that's on her. I think this was said last week but Daisy really is a terrible chief stew - other than not ranking the stews. If she needs Gary to go and pick up her stews from the beach club, maybe she should actually ask him like a normal human being instead of just assuming that Gary can't wait to jump up and do something for her. And why on earth did she send both her stews to the beach club? Why wouldn't a stew and a deckhand go? Second episode and I've already had enough of Danni. Put your hormones away, girl. Run for your life, Cloyce. One night of drinking and Daisy is going to be gunning for you.
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The cheese may stand alone but I really cannot stand Daisy. I didn't understand what all her crying to Gary was over. She accuses Gary of trying to ruin her relationship with Colin but as I remember it, she didn't push him away too much. In fact, she encouraged and allowed him to motorboat her in front of Colin. And per the reunion, Colin asked Daisy to travel with him and she refused. So she blames Gary, she and Colin break up, she wanted to talk to Gary (or is it "talk") but was angry that Gary didn't reach out to her? Is he supposed to be a mind reader? If she wanted to talk/"talk" to Gary, why didn't she call him? Why is all this on him? And as he said, maybe he did want to decompress and not deal with all the drama. Because Daisy is EXTREMELY high maintenance as far as the emotional part of it goes. And don't think it didn't pain me to defend Gary in any way. So Danni is clearly the horny stew who is already attempting to jump Keith's bones after knowing him five minutes. Okay. Emma is older than the usual deckhand - yay - and good on her for doing what she wants to do. The chef is very young. I felt sorry for him with that first dinner. It was a set up to fail. That's a lot of orders and different food. Daisy really screwed up - and she's been doing this long enough to know how to handle that. You take that one guest aside and ask her privately and that's it.
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S09.E09: This Boat's Not Big Enough for the Stew of Us
psychoticstate replied to snarts's topic in Below Deck Mediterranean
I doubt this would be tolerated on one charter, much less five. As much as I like Aesha, I think she should have gotten this under control IMMEDIATELY. If you're having a sit-down with your two stews and they aren't responding as you need them to, hold their feet to the fire. She should have told Ellie that while Ellie is second stew, that does NOT mean she is Bri's boss or superior. That's Aesha's position. Joe is pretty gross but it says something about both Bri and Ellie that they are willing to play this stupid game and humiliate themselves by throwing themselves at him. I don't recall who said they were interested in him first, or if it even occurred, but once Ellie saw what was up with Joe and Bri, she should have backed out. Honestly, she should be pretty grossed out by Joe spreading the love, as it were. But again, it says something about her (and maybe her self-esteem) as well as about Bri. Why are they fighting over Joe? He's not the last guy in the world and these charters are six weeks. If you're that interested in him, make arrangements to hook up with him after charter. I do think Aesha should give a firm talking to to Ellie about not getting cabins done. That was the one thing Aesha told her to get done while the guests were out shopping. As Bri pointed out, she could have easily handled setting the table for the next meal. I know it was editing shenanigans but the cutaways made it look like Bri was just starting on cabins and the guests were already on their way back. And Ellie, if you're going on break and therefore need for Bri to clean all the cabins, then take your ass on break and don't stand around and get in Bri's way. That was completely out of line. I do think Bri is in the wrong to tell Captain Sandy that she and Ellie absolutely cannot work together. Ellie said they could so I would guess that if you're going to choose one to let go, it's the person that says/refuses to work alongside someone else. Of course Bri could feel that she has a slight upper hand, given that she has spoken privately to Sandy (advice which clearly went in one ear and out the other). Again, this has been an ongoing issue. Why hasn't Aesha suggested switching cabins? She could switch with Ellie or Bri, so at least they're not sharing space at all times. I mean, they still need to be adults and deal with working together for the charter season but we've all seen this happen before where cabins are switched due to tensions. I can't imagine that both of them are fired. No way can Aesha run interior herself. And even if they had a backup stew ready to go, it would still be too much for two stews. I do think Ian is in over his head but I'll give him credit for coming back to the boat after dinner so that he could get a decent amount of sleep and then get up and get to work. Which is basically what all of them should be doing when they have a charter starting the next day. -
So Iain is clearly in over his head and/or lazy with his lead deckhand, who is a man ho, gunning for his job. This seems so familiar . . . oh yeah. It's because we saw it on the OG with Jared and Ben. Yawn. It is funny that Ellie thinks that the second stew has first dibs on any and all available crew. I mean, Joe is a ho but what if he wasn't interested in Ellie? Does that factor in? Is it just what the second stew wants, the second stew gets? Or does it then go to the lead deckhand because he/she pulls rank over the second stew? Joe is cute but he's way too full of himself. The season is six weeks. Either don't get involved with your workmates or accept it's a boat hook-up and that's it. I do like Gael and Nathan together, although I'm sure Gael's boyfriend does not. Gael is a hard worker and seems like a genuinely nice person. Aesha is like an 8-year-old boy with the constant talk of farting, pooping and various other bodily functions. Girl, enough already. I've said this before and I'll say it again. Why would guests pay as much money as they do for these charters and then get shitfaced, black out drunk? You can do that at home! Enjoy the stunning scenery and the usually delish food.
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Xandie was 100 percent in the wrong. Why even bother saying something like that, which is only aimed to hurt someone? She certainly had no room to say anything b/c all she seemed to do was laundry and talk shit behind Barbie's back. Too bad that Barbie hadn't told Xandie in response that if she (Barbie) had been Xandie's chief stew, she would have fired her. I really wish we had a reunion to see what Kery thought after seeing the actions of Ben and Fraser throughout the season. I bet he wouldn't think so highly of either of them.
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Truth. I mean, what's Fraser going to compliment Xandi on? How well she scrubs a toilet or throws clothes into the dryer? I'm not being critical of those tasks but that's all we really see her do. Is that enough to earn the second stew stripes? Not IMO. Fraser has really annoyed me this season (and I say this as someone who liked him previously). I do think he's genuinely concerned about the guests having a good experience and he is spot on with keeping his cabin/quarters orderly -- but his mean girl posse is eye rolling and he crossed the propriety line with the charter guest that he kissed. If there is a reunion, I definitely want to get Kerry's take on all of that, plus Ben and Sunny hooking up and then Ben promoting Sunny and the shenanigans that were going on in the galley.
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I've been to Scotland (beautiful country). Seen some kilts but zero boy bits getting flashed. I think when Kyle gets some alcohol in him, he thinks the clothes need to come off. Not attractive.
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So what was Ben's point about saying that Nick was 40 and still yachting? So? How old is Captain Kerry? At least Nick has stuck with it and made a nice little career for himself. Why didn't Fraser confirm with the guests that they wanted their food salted more before passing on the message to Nick? It's like a bad game of Telephone. And while Nick's plates may not be the most elaborate or decorative, I personally wouldn't care about that so much as the taste. If the guests are happy, then Fraser and Paris should just zip it. And Sunny and Paris hoovering up the extra creme brulees? Big no no. Not just a no no in front of the guests but they should know never to touch it until all the guests are done. Fraser should have stopped them immediately. I also thought it was out of line for Paris to go to the charter guest to confirm that the guest told her she could eat the dessert and then say that she was being scolded for eating it. She was being rightly scolded in my book. And it sounded to me like the guest was telling the primary that Paris should be able to have the dessert. I wouldn't have assumed anything and wouldn't have touched it until the guests were en route back to the ship. And speaking of, since I didn't comment on this last week, Paris was completely out of line with Nick - and probably continues to be. She's third stew, he's the chef. I'm sure she wouldn't appreciate him telling her how to do her job. Take a seat. Regardless of whether or not cabin inspections are a thing, it was a direct order from the captain. Ben didn't have to agree with Kerry's decision but he should have respected it. Case in point: Ben was pretty pissed off that Dylan didn't care for Ben's decision to name Sunny as lead deckhand and didn't appreciate that Dylan didn't appreciate the decision. Kind of the same thing. I think Ben could be a decent to good bosun if he'd drop the attitude and focus more on working than getting his d**k wet. Did laugh over the editing monkeys making sure to show us shots of Ben playing around with Sunny interspersed with Ben's comments about how hard he was working. I really don't want to hear anymore about Sunny and Ben (or really, Sunny) trying to make a go of their boatmance. Enough already. Ben has shown her who he really is. He's hooking up. That's it. Sunny is a glutton for punishment with low self esteem. Ben is going to continue hitting it until the end of the season and that will be that. As much as I like Barbie and Kyle together, he's going to ruin it. She's asked him to chill with the taking his clothes off thing and it looks like he's not listening. That would be enough for me too. I dated someone like that once in my early 20s. It got old real fast. With the other differences that Barbie is concerned about, this is probably going to be a deal breaker for her. Looks like from the preview for next episode that Xandi comes after Barbie again. WTF, girl? I think someone else posted this either upthread or in a previous one but I don't understand why Fraser thinks Xandi is so great. She seems to spend all her time cleaning cabins and doing laundry - usually not a second stew's turf. If she dislikes being around guests that much, she's not destined to be a chief stew - so Fraser should have made Barbie second. Have to mention - Barbie's tablescapes really are gorgeous. Would be hilarious, especially after Ben said about Kerry and his cabin inspections: "What's he going to do? Fire us?" Yep!
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