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Of course the chef is her type - he's a man. I think Daisy said last season she was 34 or 35. Definitely old enough (IMO) to NOT be getting black out drunk on every crew outing. Not sure what Colin saw in her. Frankly I don't understand why the guest didn't pack or wear swim trunks when going to a beach party. Isn't it kind of in the name? Makes me wonder if it was some kind of production shenanigans. I agree. I would have ZERO desire to go to that beach/pool party. Why charter a luxury vessel if you're just going to leave it and go to some beach/pool party that apparently everyone else under the age of 25 is going to be at? Aren't there other things to do in Ibiza? While Gary is at fault for crashing the tender, because he was paying more attention to the dancer than driving, I will give him credit for immediately asking everyone on board if they were okay. Without getting into the allegations against him (because I have zero idea if they are true or not) and despite being oversexed and creepy, he has always seemed to do well at his job. There has to be a reason that Glenn has kept him on board, whether filming or not. I thought Cloyce's food looked good. What does she mean "children's food"? His presentation was nice, his serving sizes were good and he took their preferences into consideration. Both Emma and Keith said they weren't familiar with driving a tender so it makes sense that Gary would have to do it. But Daisy could have apologized for waking him and asked him if he wouldn't mind taking swim trunks to the guest. It's all about how she just expects him to jump up and do whatever she needs done. I don't know why Gary would want to be friends or "friends" with Daisy because it appears to be a very one-sided street to me. Daisy expects Gary to back off and "respect" her relationship with Colin when it's convenient for her (but also while sending him mixed messages, like encouraging him to motorboat her and hugging on him) but then after blaming him for Colin being upset about the motorboating, etc., she then expects him to pick up the phone and call her immediately upon her relationship with Colin blowing up. She's a user and Gary should kick her to the curb. How long before her stress over/with Gary is going to affect her chief stew duties? In 3 . . . 2 . . .
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Exactly. How many seasons are we going to be subjected to Daisy declaring "this is it" when it comes to Gary? She doesn't want him in a boyfriend capacity but she wants him at her beck and call. And no matter how many times she says it, she was just as guilty as Gary last season. I hate to defend him but he was acting like his usual self and she did not shut him down. In fact, she encouraged it because I think she liked the idea of Gary and Colin fighting over her. So that's on her. And Gary had nothing to do with telling Colin she didn't want to travel with him or visit him (per Colin). Again, that's on her. I think this was said last week but Daisy really is a terrible chief stew - other than not ranking the stews. If she needs Gary to go and pick up her stews from the beach club, maybe she should actually ask him like a normal human being instead of just assuming that Gary can't wait to jump up and do something for her. And why on earth did she send both her stews to the beach club? Why wouldn't a stew and a deckhand go? Second episode and I've already had enough of Danni. Put your hormones away, girl. Run for your life, Cloyce. One night of drinking and Daisy is going to be gunning for you.
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The cheese may stand alone but I really cannot stand Daisy. I didn't understand what all her crying to Gary was over. She accuses Gary of trying to ruin her relationship with Colin but as I remember it, she didn't push him away too much. In fact, she encouraged and allowed him to motorboat her in front of Colin. And per the reunion, Colin asked Daisy to travel with him and she refused. So she blames Gary, she and Colin break up, she wanted to talk to Gary (or is it "talk") but was angry that Gary didn't reach out to her? Is he supposed to be a mind reader? If she wanted to talk/"talk" to Gary, why didn't she call him? Why is all this on him? And as he said, maybe he did want to decompress and not deal with all the drama. Because Daisy is EXTREMELY high maintenance as far as the emotional part of it goes. And don't think it didn't pain me to defend Gary in any way. So Danni is clearly the horny stew who is already attempting to jump Keith's bones after knowing him five minutes. Okay. Emma is older than the usual deckhand - yay - and good on her for doing what she wants to do. The chef is very young. I felt sorry for him with that first dinner. It was a set up to fail. That's a lot of orders and different food. Daisy really screwed up - and she's been doing this long enough to know how to handle that. You take that one guest aside and ask her privately and that's it.
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S09.E09: This Boat's Not Big Enough for the Stew of Us
psychoticstate replied to snarts's topic in Below Deck Mediterranean
I doubt this would be tolerated on one charter, much less five. As much as I like Aesha, I think she should have gotten this under control IMMEDIATELY. If you're having a sit-down with your two stews and they aren't responding as you need them to, hold their feet to the fire. She should have told Ellie that while Ellie is second stew, that does NOT mean she is Bri's boss or superior. That's Aesha's position. Joe is pretty gross but it says something about both Bri and Ellie that they are willing to play this stupid game and humiliate themselves by throwing themselves at him. I don't recall who said they were interested in him first, or if it even occurred, but once Ellie saw what was up with Joe and Bri, she should have backed out. Honestly, she should be pretty grossed out by Joe spreading the love, as it were. But again, it says something about her (and maybe her self-esteem) as well as about Bri. Why are they fighting over Joe? He's not the last guy in the world and these charters are six weeks. If you're that interested in him, make arrangements to hook up with him after charter. I do think Aesha should give a firm talking to to Ellie about not getting cabins done. That was the one thing Aesha told her to get done while the guests were out shopping. As Bri pointed out, she could have easily handled setting the table for the next meal. I know it was editing shenanigans but the cutaways made it look like Bri was just starting on cabins and the guests were already on their way back. And Ellie, if you're going on break and therefore need for Bri to clean all the cabins, then take your ass on break and don't stand around and get in Bri's way. That was completely out of line. I do think Bri is in the wrong to tell Captain Sandy that she and Ellie absolutely cannot work together. Ellie said they could so I would guess that if you're going to choose one to let go, it's the person that says/refuses to work alongside someone else. Of course Bri could feel that she has a slight upper hand, given that she has spoken privately to Sandy (advice which clearly went in one ear and out the other). Again, this has been an ongoing issue. Why hasn't Aesha suggested switching cabins? She could switch with Ellie or Bri, so at least they're not sharing space at all times. I mean, they still need to be adults and deal with working together for the charter season but we've all seen this happen before where cabins are switched due to tensions. I can't imagine that both of them are fired. No way can Aesha run interior herself. And even if they had a backup stew ready to go, it would still be too much for two stews. I do think Ian is in over his head but I'll give him credit for coming back to the boat after dinner so that he could get a decent amount of sleep and then get up and get to work. Which is basically what all of them should be doing when they have a charter starting the next day. -
So Iain is clearly in over his head and/or lazy with his lead deckhand, who is a man ho, gunning for his job. This seems so familiar . . . oh yeah. It's because we saw it on the OG with Jared and Ben. Yawn. It is funny that Ellie thinks that the second stew has first dibs on any and all available crew. I mean, Joe is a ho but what if he wasn't interested in Ellie? Does that factor in? Is it just what the second stew wants, the second stew gets? Or does it then go to the lead deckhand because he/she pulls rank over the second stew? Joe is cute but he's way too full of himself. The season is six weeks. Either don't get involved with your workmates or accept it's a boat hook-up and that's it. I do like Gael and Nathan together, although I'm sure Gael's boyfriend does not. Gael is a hard worker and seems like a genuinely nice person. Aesha is like an 8-year-old boy with the constant talk of farting, pooping and various other bodily functions. Girl, enough already. I've said this before and I'll say it again. Why would guests pay as much money as they do for these charters and then get shitfaced, black out drunk? You can do that at home! Enjoy the stunning scenery and the usually delish food.
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Xandie was 100 percent in the wrong. Why even bother saying something like that, which is only aimed to hurt someone? She certainly had no room to say anything b/c all she seemed to do was laundry and talk shit behind Barbie's back. Too bad that Barbie hadn't told Xandie in response that if she (Barbie) had been Xandie's chief stew, she would have fired her. I really wish we had a reunion to see what Kery thought after seeing the actions of Ben and Fraser throughout the season. I bet he wouldn't think so highly of either of them.
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Truth. I mean, what's Fraser going to compliment Xandi on? How well she scrubs a toilet or throws clothes into the dryer? I'm not being critical of those tasks but that's all we really see her do. Is that enough to earn the second stew stripes? Not IMO. Fraser has really annoyed me this season (and I say this as someone who liked him previously). I do think he's genuinely concerned about the guests having a good experience and he is spot on with keeping his cabin/quarters orderly -- but his mean girl posse is eye rolling and he crossed the propriety line with the charter guest that he kissed. If there is a reunion, I definitely want to get Kerry's take on all of that, plus Ben and Sunny hooking up and then Ben promoting Sunny and the shenanigans that were going on in the galley.
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I've been to Scotland (beautiful country). Seen some kilts but zero boy bits getting flashed. I think when Kyle gets some alcohol in him, he thinks the clothes need to come off. Not attractive.
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So what was Ben's point about saying that Nick was 40 and still yachting? So? How old is Captain Kerry? At least Nick has stuck with it and made a nice little career for himself. Why didn't Fraser confirm with the guests that they wanted their food salted more before passing on the message to Nick? It's like a bad game of Telephone. And while Nick's plates may not be the most elaborate or decorative, I personally wouldn't care about that so much as the taste. If the guests are happy, then Fraser and Paris should just zip it. And Sunny and Paris hoovering up the extra creme brulees? Big no no. Not just a no no in front of the guests but they should know never to touch it until all the guests are done. Fraser should have stopped them immediately. I also thought it was out of line for Paris to go to the charter guest to confirm that the guest told her she could eat the dessert and then say that she was being scolded for eating it. She was being rightly scolded in my book. And it sounded to me like the guest was telling the primary that Paris should be able to have the dessert. I wouldn't have assumed anything and wouldn't have touched it until the guests were en route back to the ship. And speaking of, since I didn't comment on this last week, Paris was completely out of line with Nick - and probably continues to be. She's third stew, he's the chef. I'm sure she wouldn't appreciate him telling her how to do her job. Take a seat. Regardless of whether or not cabin inspections are a thing, it was a direct order from the captain. Ben didn't have to agree with Kerry's decision but he should have respected it. Case in point: Ben was pretty pissed off that Dylan didn't care for Ben's decision to name Sunny as lead deckhand and didn't appreciate that Dylan didn't appreciate the decision. Kind of the same thing. I think Ben could be a decent to good bosun if he'd drop the attitude and focus more on working than getting his d**k wet. Did laugh over the editing monkeys making sure to show us shots of Ben playing around with Sunny interspersed with Ben's comments about how hard he was working. I really don't want to hear anymore about Sunny and Ben (or really, Sunny) trying to make a go of their boatmance. Enough already. Ben has shown her who he really is. He's hooking up. That's it. Sunny is a glutton for punishment with low self esteem. Ben is going to continue hitting it until the end of the season and that will be that. As much as I like Barbie and Kyle together, he's going to ruin it. She's asked him to chill with the taking his clothes off thing and it looks like he's not listening. That would be enough for me too. I dated someone like that once in my early 20s. It got old real fast. With the other differences that Barbie is concerned about, this is probably going to be a deal breaker for her. Looks like from the preview for next episode that Xandi comes after Barbie again. WTF, girl? I think someone else posted this either upthread or in a previous one but I don't understand why Fraser thinks Xandi is so great. She seems to spend all her time cleaning cabins and doing laundry - usually not a second stew's turf. If she dislikes being around guests that much, she's not destined to be a chief stew - so Fraser should have made Barbie second. Have to mention - Barbie's tablescapes really are gorgeous. Would be hilarious, especially after Ben said about Kerry and his cabin inspections: "What's he going to do? Fire us?" Yep!
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Make that a table for two. I'll join you. Fraser was just salty because while he was going around airing their dirty laundry to anyone who would listen - including Paris who was brand-new and knew no one on the ship - he wanted to play victim. Honestly, he's been playing run-tell-dat all season, which is not a good look for a chief stew (although it does bring the drah-mah). Calling Barbie a horrible person to everyone and then even agreeing with her when she said she can be a nightmare just proves that Fraser is not management material. I said basically the same above about Xandi. Don't trust her, don't particularly care for her. She seems like a self-serving snake in the grass. Anthony admitted that he was used to working with sous chefs, as are most chefs in restaurants. To expect him to cater to charter guests that ALL seem to have separate and different dietary restrictions/preferences is insane. And those restrictions/preferences are what I would say is producer driven, more than what's going in the galley. While washing dishes and chopping vegetable may not cure all the problems, it would certainly help with Anthony's peace of mind. If Fraser is so freaked out about the state of the galley, why doesn't he offer solutions instead of continuing to beat Cheffy down? Ask the deck crew to lend a hand with dishes. He knows Cheffy is dyslexic so why not put heads together with Cheffy and the rest of interior to come up with a plan/chart/whatever to help him keep the preferences straight? I mean, some of those preference sheets certainly could be confusing. Instead of yakking with Xandi and criticizing Barbie, Fraser could use that time to work on real solutions that will benefit everyone.
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Jeebus, Fraser is a salty bitch and complete crybaby. He is not cut out for any kind of management position. Don't complain to Captain Kerry about Barbie airing your dirty laundry when we watched you telling no less than Cheffy, Ben, Xandi, and Paris that Barbie had to go. It's doubly frustrating to me because Fraser coddled and pandered to Cat's incessant whining and crying - and she wasn't even a good stew. Stop taking everything so personally, Fraser, and just work with Barbie. Major points for Captain Kerry for shutting down that nonsense. And shut up, Xandi. No wonder you and Fraser are so lovey-dovey; you're both two faced and bitchy. That comment about Paris being a "real stew" was completely unnecessary. I do think it's hilarious that both Xandi and Fraser think Barbie has turned a corner -- yeah, she came THISCLOSE to quitting. Otherwise, the only other thing that's changed in that Captain Kerry isn't having it with your games and meltdowns. I agree with @realitytvfan1017 about Cheffy. He's letting the negative comments get into his headspace and affect his performance. He needs some positive encouragement - which he is not likely going to get from Fraser. Why on earth is Fraser being critical of Cheffy's food and saying the guests go for McDonald's, Burger King, etc? Cheffy doesn't know that. If you hear them say stuff like that, tell the chef! Then he can make things like mac & cheese, burgers & fries, spaghetti & meatballs, etc. Yes, Cheffy is struggling but Fraser is doing very little to help. Ben is an idiot. So Dylan has more experience but Sunny "knows the boat." What does that mean exactly? Dylan isn't wrong here - Sunny has had one previous yachtie job; she likely wouldn't be getting the promotion if she weren't sleeping with Ben. Ben said it himself - if he didn't promote Sunny, she'd be angry. I'm with Dylan on this one. And to whoever posted above, the only thing I recall him saying about vaginas is that if he (Dylan) had one, he would have gotten the promotion. He's not wrong. Love the editing monkeys. Right after Ben said that he and Sunny could separate work and pleasure, we see him rubbing her neck and acting more personal than colleagues, with Dylan right there, looking like he was going to hurl. Then when Ben says Dylan going behind his back to complain is uncool, we are treated to a slideshow of Ben doing the same thing, multiple times, to Jared. Ha! Sunny needs to get a clue. Ben is telling her, but not in so many words, that she is a booty call. As soon as the season ends, so does their "relationship." That's clearly not what she wants so she needs to quit dancing around the issue and agreeing with him and saying things are now clear and have been settled, when they have not. In her THs, she said she and Ben were "dating." Nope. Not dating. They're sleeping together. Not the same thing. She needs to either look at him as the fuck boy he is and see it as a temporary fling or break it off and deal with a very uncomfortable last few weeks. I wonder if there will be a reunion and if Kerry will pipe in on Ben promoting the girl he's sleeping with. I'd love to hear his take on it.
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THIS. In no way, shape or form has Barbie demonstrated any kind of insubordination. She has been nothing but professional to Fraser - and he certainly can't say the same. He has gossiped and badmouthed her to Xandi, Ben and now Paris (have we checked BD footage to see if he's badmouthed Barbie to the staff at the restaurant?) I used to like Fraser but this has completely turned me against him. He is 100% in the wrong here. From what we've been shown, it looks like Barbie works harder than anyone else in interior. I hope Captain Kerry hands Fraser his ass when he goes to get Barbie fired. #TeamBarbie I wasn't feeling Paris at all - until she called out Fraser for badmouthing Barbie and went to comfort her. She nailed the entire situation - it started as something small and has been fueled by alcohol. I felt so bad for Chef Anthony. No one can win in a situation like that, where everyone has different dietary preferences and needs - and Jill Zarin. I wanted to hug him when he said the whole event reminded him of a teacher calling him a loser and born a loser, die a loser. He is not a loser. He simply does not have a chief stew that knows how to accommodate him and help him. And therein is another failure of Fraser's management style. Instead of complaining to Xandi about Anthony, talk to Anthony and find a solution. And yes, Fraser, you can help him because now you've got Paris. #TeamCheffy Amazing how Fraser had all the time in the world to devote to Cat and her emotions and tears but he cannot deal with Barbie and he cannot deal with Chef Anthony. I think the tip was so poor because the primary was hoping that the crew would throw Jill overboard.
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Jeebus, Jill is an annoying tw*t. Can someone toss her overboard? I felt so bad for Chef Anthony. That's just way too many dietary restrictions/preferences for one person to deal with. I actually felt like I was going to have an anxiety attack for him. He handled it very well though and came through with the food. Completely unfair that Barbie was left on the ship to do all the interior chores while both Fraser and Xandie were participating in beach yoga/meditation. I think Fraser should have had Xandie or himself go, but not both. He's a good chief stew, IMO, except when it comes to his favoritism. He showed it with Cat and now that Cat's gone, he's showing it with Xandie. Xandie needs to quit being such an Eeyore with Barbie. Okay, Barbie made a mistake but she does seem to work hard and as she said, she's not a quitter. So it seems like Dylan is expecting to be lead deckhand, which makes me believe that Ben will choose either Kyle, which will offend Sunny, or Sunny, which will offend Kyle and Dylan since Ben is sleeping with Sunny. Do they really wait until halfway through the season to choose a lead deckhand in the real yachting world?
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S13.E20: Reunion Part 3
psychoticstate replied to QQQQ's topic in The Real Housewives Of Beverly Hills
Except for the tats, she does not even look like the same person. Funny how Morgan is from Virginia and has a southern accent but Kyle mocks Sutton's southern accent? Okay. IMO Kyle stopped drinking because she was basically trying to morph herself into Morgan or into someone Morgan would like/be attracted to. It wasn't just the alcohol. It was also getting more tats (stupid as they were) and changing how she was dressing. And didn't she say she called Morgan every day? I have really good friends that I love but I don't call them daily. Just saying. All in all, this three-parter was an absolute snoozefest. Andy continues to be a shit reunion host. Kyle danced around questions at the reunion, just like she danced around questions all season. And she continues to show up for reunions dressed like the Stacie Reunion doll (Barbie's sister). Her outfits are rarely flattering and neither is her hair. The orange dress she wore in some of her THs was much more flattering than her leprechaun look. I have watched RHOBH since season 1, episode 1. Never missed it. This was perhaps the most boring, dull season on record. -
Cat reminds me of the young people I see posting on Twitter/Instagram/TikTok who are literally crying about how they are expected to actually work for their paychecks. I have no idea what her friend's issue was, and it's not our business, but TBH, it pissed me off that everyone was still bending over backwards to pacify and soothe her. We've seen other BD crew who have had deaths in the family, death of a friend, weddings they've missed, births they've missed, etc. and they hold it together and keep going. Cat was falling apart on day 1. I get that she had some serious family issues but it's time to be an adult. She needs to find a good therapist or she's going to fail at life. I understand that Fraser liked her and felt for her but telling her what a terrific job she did was just flat out lying. I agree with you, @iMonrey that regardless of what was going on with Cat personally, she really should have sucked it up and finished out the charter. I'm not sure I've ever seen anyone get off the ship that fast. She says she can't take it anymore because Xandi was not spurting unicorns and puppies for her, goes in her cabin to cry, and it seems like 15 mins later, she's gone? Now the crew is two down. Bigger tips for everyone, especially if these guests turn out to be good tippers but a lot more work. Color me pleasantly surprised that Ben seems to be doing a good job as bosun. I didn't like how he was gunning for the position from the moment he walked on the boat and gloated over Jared's screw ups, but he does seem focused and like he understands what to do. I'm really liking Barbie. Her tables look fantastic. Continuing to love Frenchie. I could listen to him talk all day. His food looks AMAZING, the platings are wonderful, and he just does his job with no drama. He listens to/reads what the guests would like and adapts his menus accordingly. Chef Anthony, if you are reading this and would be interested in an older redhead, please call me. I hope Jared can get himself together. I think he's a good guy overall but he's just wrestling with so many demons. He really should have gone to Kerry with the issues about his daughter because I really think Kerry would have understood and tried to help him with the connectivity issue. That said, I do think Kerry was making the best decision not just for the boat but for Jared as well. Looks like the new deckhand is a hottie and Sunny may be regretting hooking up with Ben right off the bat? Will the crew ever learn? (Rhetorical question. Of course they won't!)