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She did say she had been doing "a lot of painting and sculpting" recently! who knows what might be next?? 😱

Kate clearly thinks she is a comedienne. How many of the women did she ironically address as "my sister in Christ" while saying she liked Hayden's money while Logan couldn't even afford to work out at Equinox? LMAO--not.

Lindy could also compete on the boobage front and the crying front!

While Victoria was clearly following producers' orders when she went after Genevieve, I did greatly enjoy her saying that men were stupid. She had a point, at least where Aaron was concerned.

I have always thought Johnny was made for BIP, or at least what I think BIP should be--chill, hot, not dumb, up for a good time, sweet. He has definitely grown on me this season.

Am I the only one who thought that Alexis once again showed herself to be the queen of shit-stirring when she pushed Mitch in front of the group to admit that he didn't intend for any doors to be left open, that that was all Kirsten ?? She is THE WORST. I hope Maya is back home with Justin. Statistical Outlier--we posted at almost the same time. I agree! I heard Justin say that too!!!!!

Aaron, unlikely voice of reason!! he has really won me over this season! his logic is apleasin!

I have never seen anyone generate more cliches in a row than Kate. She was like a terrible stand up comedienne at one point. She and Logan are both dull as dirt and may well be happy together.

Jesse is still hotter than most of the guys, except for Australian Adam and Alex from Rachel's season IMO. Every time I see him in his classy adult garb, I feel like I've taken a refreshing little break from the chaos.

I agree on all counts. I'm especially sympathetic to Lace. She has behaved relatively well this round and she has clearly been through a ringer of her own devising. I'm uncomfortable with how relentlessly she is being demonized and mocked, particularly by Wells, especially since she is older and practically a monster by the ridiculously ageist standards of this show. I was happy when Rodney chose her, and I'm equally happy for him now.

I disagree. Logan was desired by two bachelorettes even though he switched. Nobody has liked James much except for Aron. Logan ranks higher in Bach-verse hierarchy IMO. Shenae made the more prestigious choice.

the shrieking noises Jill made when she was crying make me agree with you.

How Justin could deliberate for even a minute over whether to stick with sweet loyal Maya over cruel selfish Alexis is beyond me!!

lolllll he would cry even more if he heard Alexis trashing his performance to the other wives. She is relentlessly determined to undermine him at every turn and it is so awful. She is a mean person.

When she was blaming herself, I took it as a strategy, however unconscious, to exaggerate in order to make him feel bad and stop picking on her. Yeah No, your analysis is spot on, but Lindy can be manipulative in the way she fights. She did a lot of "I can't do anything right, I'm always wrong," while he was meticulously going on about whatever specific incident pissed him off. Both of them are maddening, but he was worse by far than she was.

In addition to Jacob calling Lace "stunning and iconic," my favorite moment from this episode was watching Jacob eat a whole pineapple like it was a piece of corn on the cob.

Shanaenae likes her men bland and not too bright, all the better for her to shine. I suspect Jacob and Logan are going to vie for her hand. With Aaron possibly in the mix, she is going to be the belle of the ball.

I completely agree with all you say here and think that is exactly why she might threaten to sue!!! She will do anything to look innocent. But yes, the experts shouldn't have taken that seriously (if that is indeed what happened).

Like everyone else, I am really baffled about why the experts continued to back up Morgan in such a servile manner. But Yeah No, your post made me wonder: do you think she threatened to sue them for defamation of character or something? That moment where she held up her license on her phone was very revealing, as you said. I had hopes for Mitch but when he said to Kirsten, while slurping away, that they were living in a temporary house so he had "gone easy" on her, I knew things were going south, even before makeup gate.

I am having a very vague memory that he did some kind of spoken word/rap thing and it wasn't terrible?? he definitely seems to have some smarts and an edge, which I am appreciating this season.

So much this!! I was team Lindy until this week. Some of the Lindy haters can definitely say I told you so at this point. She also had the nerve to complain about how exhausted she was when Miguel was the one getting up with the baby!!! SMH.

my favorite Alexis moment last night was when Justin told her that she didn't want to be married to him and had hurt him and her response was, I'm a wonderful woman and will make someone very happy even if it's not you. Priceless!

I forgot to add to my earlier comment that before this episode aired, we had a clip of Dr. Pia in her interview with Binh and Morgan calling someone "vindictive." Of course I assumed, and I think we were meant to assume, that the vindictive person was Morgan. And she turned out to be referring to Binh!!!! 😨 That whole scene reminded me of Rachel's interminable berating of Tino for not apologizing on the Bachelorette finale when he apologized multiple times, including in writing. Just not the way Rachel wanted. Tino is a sleaze but Rachel was so implacable that I ended up on his side. Binh is no Tino!

When he said he was triggered by Morgan's rage, I couldn't believe how cold she was about it! wouldn't being traumatized by an abusive parent explain why he can't talk to her or apologize with enough emotion to satisfy her? I think Dr. Pia is a huge improvement over Dr. Viv and she was fantastic with Alexis, but she really dropped the ball with Morgan and Binh.

Speaking of creepy patriarchs, I found the whole--Sean, please advise Zach who looks up to you while keeping your arm around your wife and mother of your three children in the smuggest way possible really annoying. I don't think Katherine would have said a word had Jesse not asked her to speak. He is "Bachelor Royalty"--all bow down!! Give me single metrosexual Nick any day. I once saw an episode of WIFESWAP which was Jason and Molly swapping with Sean and Katherine. Poor Molly had to cook Sean his plain ground turkey every night and serve her man. Katherine had a lovely vacation.