CindyBee

Did Marcus get a big ole check from Fleiss to propose!?!? Just seems so out there that he goes from being "in love" with Andi to engaged to Lacy in less than 3 months. At least when Blake got engaged to Holly, he was well off Ashley's season and never in love with her. Off to look for a bio/picture of Lacy as I have no recolection of her at all.

I heard that too and have no idea what's it about as there has been zero mention of him being married before. Strange. I personally can't stand Nick but agree he's the best for Andi of the remaining guys.

So sad about Caleb. He really seemed like a sweet guy.

I have no qualms in admitting that I hope this is the trashiest trash since "Paradise Hotel" was on my TV. I find the AshLee & Graham pairing sad but can't wait to see Cody & Michelle and what he wears to woo her!

Nick bugs me so much he is making the show almost unwatchable. Do not get his appeal AT ALL! Why couldn't he go home instead of sweet Marquel!? Really like Brian but he's soooo not the right guy for Andi.

Such random folks on this but I guess Fleiss went for Quanity not quality. And since the theme of the show seems to be "hooking up" those that are in committed relationships ended up not participating this time around. The second season of "Love in the Wild" resulted in three serious couples--one already married--so who knows, maybe if Fleiss incorporates some of "dating" principles from that show some long term couples will form from this mess. Nah, who am I kidding!?! BIP has trainwreck written all over it!

I don't remember what the guys said to DeAnna during that infamous BBQ that she pitched a fit over them not LOVING her enough and her storming off so I don't know if that incident is similar to the one we will see tonight with Eric and Andi. Shame that Eric's last scenes on the show will be negative ones but I think there has been enough positive publcity around his life since he died that most will probably forget all about it by tomorrow.

The only thing recently he has up on his site that would be considered news is that Juan Pablo and Nikki are going to be on couples therapy. Nothing new about any spoilers for this season but since I think Andi choose Josh from night one, there really isn't going to anything else to report about this season expect maybe Steve will elebroate on Eric's leaving. I guess we'll see in tomorrow's write up after tonight's episode.

I agree, its Chris job to lose and really there isn't anyone else in the running at this piont. Just look at the top six: Josh--engaged to Andi; he probably was the #1 choice for the Bachelor if he and Andi hadn't made a match Nick--wears blue man-capris and got busted blabbing the ending in public Chris--coming off very sweet and dare I say normal; besides he is very wealthy Marcus--on Bachelor in Paradise Brian--could be an outside contender, if Chris screws it up Dylan-on Bachelor in Paradise

Reality Steve's new recap is up and its Cody with the girlfriend, not Eric. Also the reason for the episode move up is that ABC wants to air an interview with Hilary Clinton on 6/9 so the Bachelorette is getting bumped so there will be a 2 week delay between episode 4 when Eric leaves and Episode 5 when the show moves to Europe. And I'm surprised that Josh is so smitten with Andi so early on but since it seems mutal I can see how they end up together at the end.

So Reality Steve says that Eric leaves in episode 4 before the rose cermony admist some drama. Do we think that its him with the "girlfriend" back home!?! I'm leaning towards yes and it will be interesting to see just how Fleiss spins it. The fact that episode 3 is on Sunday, then episode 4 on Monday makes me believe that episode 4 will be a cliff hanger and the rest of the episode will be shown on 6/9 with extra footage of Eric that's not so drama filled. Something is up with the fact that the episode that Eric leaves is being shown early (6/2).

If I had been in that row behind Nick and he was talking that loudly and could hear what he was saying, I totally would have known who he was as it was all over Reality Steve's site about who was in the final 4. But agree the odds of that happening are very, very small but it did happen so goes to show you that you never, ever know who is sitting behind you in a public space.

Yes she did. I really don't have any favorites yet. Hopefully tonight I'll have time to watch the guys intros that are now up that got axed last night due to the 90 minute episode.

Finally was able to watch the episode last night and I found it as good as any episode yet for this show. Probably Miranda Hart and Ben Caplan's best work as Chummy and Peter. I'm going to miss Jenny and wish the character wasn't moving on as I'd love to see further development of her life with Philip but I guess it wasn't meant to be. I guess next season will center on the pill being introduced and the decline in midwifery during the 1960s.

Well Reality Steve's major spoiler is up on his site and its a biggy. Some random person was sitting behind Nick V on his plane ride back home to Milwaukee and taped a conversation where Nick gave away his final 2 experience. Seems like Nick, like most final 2 folks thought he'd be #1 and was very surprised that he wasn't! And he doesn't really have nice things to say about Josh. Worth a watch,if you get the chance, before they get taken down. But RS has transcribed them so even if Fleiss makes the actual video go away, the transcription is there for eternity.

I wonder who leaks the first episode to Steve!?!? Might be Fleiss himself as there is nothing like lots of free publicity for the upcoming season!

I'm with Reality Steve and think that Andi and Josh have a decent shot at making it. Doesn't seem like a default pick if they are engaged. Hopefully it will be a good season, with some bromances, man code breaking and lots of man tears and a decent story line for Josh and Andi. And I hope Eric's passing doesn't make everyone at the end too sad. And I Can't wait to see what Chris the farmer's edit is going to be like. Agree with Steve that the bachelor gig is his if he wants it as they probably love the fact that he is very, very, rich. And that would be a most stellar season seeing all the famehos try to nab themself I real live millionaire!

I'm really looking forward to seeing just how many of the guys didn't like Andi and just who was willing to "fake it" for more TV time. I'm guessing pretty much all of them.

I'm sure Chris B showing up night 1 was part of his "Bachelor in Paradise" audition. Probably was told if he did so, he'd be cast on BIP which is probably his ultimate goal, not getting on Andi's season.

Another great episode. This season is really delivering the tears for me too. And since I just saw "Railway Man" at the movies the other day, the horrors of what Patsy and her patient faced in WWII was fresh in my mind so maybe that's why I teared up even more. The story line of her saving the day might have been a tad contrived but it still was acted well. I'm glad Heidi Thomas decided to expand the cast and add characters like Patsy and Rev. Tom.

Love the fact that guys seem to be more into making life long friendships than "dating" Andi! That's hysterical. And Yeah it could easily be another season like Deanna's where Andi is all put off about the lack of attention!

I do hope ABC does the right thing and makes Eric's time on the show short but sweet. I hope they do tell Andi and the four guys left as it would be horrible for them to continue on without knowing. Best thing would be to shut things down for a few days, let them grieve and then go on with the final 3/2/frc.

Such sad news. Really puts things for this season into persecptive. Prayers to his family and friends.

Reality Steve tweeted a link to a post from a friend of Eric's that he is in a medically induced coma with a severe head injury and other serious injuries to his body. That sounds very, very serious.

That's really sad about Eric's accident. Hope he is able to recover but it sounds pretty serious.