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Oh, I know, right? You could practically see him looking at the producers off camera asking "So . . . . do I go after them? What? No? Ok, cool. [Stuffs mouth full of food]."

I'm just starting last night's ep, Chris: "So. The crying? How's that going?" HEEEEEEEEEEE!! This show is so much better since it figured out that it needed to turn into the skid rather than fighting it.

GaT--You're welcome! I actually thought about the implication when I was typing it but just thought . . .eh, it works either way :-) Snarklepuss--I agree with everything you just said above. I've always thought Bobby was dull as dishwater. He'd definitely not survive more than a couple weeks if he competed on this show. And I like your analysis of the the psychology behind his actions. Makes a lot of sense.

I'm gonna say it. It's more than "the hots" at this point. They've gotta be boning, right? It's just inconceivable otherwise. He'd never put up with such horrible presentation skills from any other person for this long. And Joy has been on the top before for her presentations. Food alone isn't going to do it, as this show constantly preaches. I will say it's an interesting change from the usual storyline of Giada lusting after/bedding the hot Italian/foreign guy of the season. I somehow don't think that's happening with Damiano or he wouldn't be so darn mad all the time. There's not a single one of these people I'd watch. It was terrible casting this year. From the beginning no one has stood out to me in a good way. The closest has been Jenard I guess, but even his schtick is wearing thin. I like Erin's personality, but I don't know if I'd watch a whole show of just her. I maybe could have watched Joy's show, although does FN need another Southern chef? And the others are either terrible or annoying or both. At this point it's probably Jenard's to lose, unless they don't want to have two AA male winners in a row and Bobby somehow manages to ram Anna all the way through to the end.

I "read" (i.e., skimmed) it in line at the store yesterday. It said basically what's already been posted here: the speculation about Kody being in hot pursuit of Robyn's relative as wife #5 and also another woman as wife #6 but I don't remember her name. Janelle, Christine and Robyn are not amused; Meri couldn't care less because she's so far over everything she's in a different galaxy by this point. It also had screen caps of alleged texts between Robyn and a friend expressing her frustration about Kody's "wife hunt." But nothing too shocking. She basically is pissed, which is to be expected. I'm personally happy to see the backstabbing minx get her comeuppance. I just wish it didn't happen because Kody gets what he wants. Again. The source cited (who I believe was this same Kendra, friend of Robyn) also confirmed that it was mostly a ploy on Kody's part because he is desperate to keep the show on the air another season. Of course, the young hot new playthings probably don't factor into his decision at all, I'm sure. He's scum. Here's a link to the cover, but the story isn't available online. http://www.lifeandstylemag.com/ I'm going to the store again later. I'll see if I can get pics of the text convos from Robyn. That was really the only "new" info. That and the name of the second woman he's pursuing.

Clearly we need a ranking of facial hair--from least to most douchy

YES! I kept asking through the whole show whether Davos even KNOWS what happened to Shireen? I mean, I suppose he must, because she's not there anymore and he'd surely be asking where she went, and her mother too. But if he learned the truth then why he wouldn't have unleashed his wrath against Melisandre I don't understand. Instead he calmly mentions her as a solution to the Jon problem. There were definitely some dots that needed connecting there for me. One of several plot lines with gaping unexplained holes in them. (Unless we're to assume people have lied to him about how Shireen and the Queen died? But it seems unlikely something like that would stay secret with that many people witnessing it). Definitely. Davos has been the Ned Stark of the show almost since Ned Stark himself died.

Eh, maybe? Still seems a completely unrealistic way for anyone to act in the situation. 1) Even if Jaime doesn't want to take his wrath out on the innocent Trystane (which Cersei would certainly have no problem with), I still don't see how they just calmly sail on home when his daughter is murdered WITHIN SIGHT of the murderers. I guess maybe he figures he'll sail home and come back with an army since he and Bronn alone can't do anything? But, of course, in the scene we saw between him and Cersei he gives no hint that he even suspects murder, so is it possible he doesn't even KNOW she was murdered? Jaime is merciful and soft-hearted and times but not usually stupid. But even if he were in this case you know Cersei would be screaming (literally) bloody murder all over the place because she's never trusted the Martells. So it just seems weird to me that they're all taking this so calmly. Of course, next week may prove different. Secondly, if I were the Sand Snakes planning a coup and wanted to get rid of the heir to the throne, I'd put him on a boat with my enemies' princess, right before we assassinated her and dust off my hands. Let my enemies do the rest. Or at least keep him hostage in exile while we take over. Seems unnecessary to chase him all the way across a continent to put a spear in the back of his head immediately. So, still, some serious narrative disfluency even if it can be plausibly explained.

Ok, good. I came here strictly to see if I had missed something with the whole Trystane thing, and I'm glad to see it isn't just me who was like, "Uh, . . .what?" I thought he was on the boat with Jaime and Myrcella as well. And I was kinda looking forward this season to seeing that whole thing play out, whether they would hold him hostage now, or do something to him in retaliation. Or just seeing how Cersei would react to having him in the mix. But instead he's just . . . hanging around . . . somewhere? And gets killed by his own countrywomen? I even went back to the scene from last season when Myrcella and co were setting sail and although the editing doesn't actually show Trystane getting into or being on the boat, from the way the actor is positioned in the scene it certainly makes it seem like he is about to get on the boat with them. And then in the scene between Jaime and Myrcella on the boat Jaime says "I'm glad Trystane is coming with us" and she says something like, "Do you think mother will like him?" So it sure sounded like we were supposed to understand that he was coming immediately with them. Maybe he was sailing in his own boat or fleet of ships or something, as befits a prince? But even so, that doesn't explain the timeline problem. Yeah, they're gonna have 'splainin' to do on that one. I'm also not sold on how Ellia and her Sand Snake daughter smuggled their weapons past the guards right into the King's presence, unless the guards were just totally not DOING THEIR JOBS. I mean, I guess three of them had been bought off as they just stood there and watched the assassination, but the big dude with the axe--I'd think he'd be the most suspicious and want to frisk people before they got too close. But I guess not. Anyway, that's a fairly minor nitpick compared to the Trystane thing.

Prepare yourselves for marriage counseling seminars led by Josh and Anna, where they share their secrets of rebuilding a marriage after a major crisis. Fundie couples will pay hundreds of dollars to spend two days crammed into the sanctuary (or sanctinasium) of a megachurch to lap up their words of wisdom. There will be merch tables in the lobby, including "his" repentance/testimony book about the road back, and the inevitable "jointly written" book about saving their marriage. (Both ghost-written, of course). Possibly even a set of DVDs and a workbook with lesson and exercises based on extremely questionable biblical exegesis. Some marketing executive with a Christian PR firm will be charged with coming up with a schmoopy but earnest catchphrase for the whole thing, like "Love Works" or "True Love Never Fails" or something equally ridiculous (probably recycling, but not really understanding, language from I Corinthians 13). That phrase will be printed on bumper stickers, keychains, posters, T-shirts and bookmarks, also for purchase in the lobby. They will team up with Christian bookseller Mardel to "write" and market daily devotional books and calendars on the theme of love and strong marriages. They might even team up with a group of popular contemporary Christian singers/songwriters or bands out of Nashville who will put out an album with a collection of songs about the true meaning of Christian love, at least one song off which will be sung at every Fundie wedding for the next 10 years. Trust me. I've been in the (Fundie-adjacent) Christian church world for a looooong time. It's coming.

Thanks! :-) Been doing the wife, mother, job, life, trying not to lose my mind thing, which is why I had to step back from modding. Just didn't have the time any more. Wish I had more time to be here. I really miss it! But summer is coming. I should be around more then. But I rely on you guys to keep me up on all this craziness Topic: What is sad, among so many other things, is that the thought seems to be that Josh needed "counseling" or "rehab" for his "sex" problems and that's it. No thought to the fact that he would/does need counseling for the issues involved with re-entering his life after rehab just as much. Of course, any good, reputable rehab program would help prepare him for this, but we all know that didn't happen here. And even then, he would need ongoing counseling and support. I'm not defending what he did at all, and I certainly don't think he's "cured" in any sense. But I also feel sad that he has no access to real help if he wants to get it.

I hope he's on suicide watch.

I'm deeply entrenched in Christian (Protestant) circles and I know no minister worth my respect who would agree to marry a couple without first engaging them in several weeks of pre-marriage counseling, or ensuring they have done so elsewhere. And eight weeks of The Bachelor does NOT count as pre-marriage counseling! Unless they are doing things way differently than the past, BiP will air in the late summer (July-August), after the Bachelorette finishes its run (May-July). We will have a two month break from the Bachelor franchise between now and late May.

Just catching up and I'm now IN LOVE with Michael K: "Dried smegma ball of a father." Can't think of a more apt description.

So, I'm just curious. Do you think Jill's hair extension have their own contract? Insurance policy? All I know is they're the only thing I can focus on when she's on the screen.

I live in Oklahoma and funeral potatoes are literally what I always sign up to bring to a funeral. And to many a potluck. It's also called potato casserole, or hashbrown casserole, but in a lot of the south it's just funeral potatoes. No matter where you're eating them. I have nothing to add to the JO discussion because I just don't have the mental energy to follow that much crazy every day, so I thought I'd chime in with this instead :-) However . . . Shidler, OK is less than two hours from where I live (and less than an hour from my sister's house in southern Kansas) so don't think the idea of stalking hasn't crossed my mind!

Ariella, Aurora and Brianna? And in 20 years she'll wonder how they all turned out to be strippers.

toodles, yes I think this was posted and discussed back when it originally was published. And the general consensus agreed with you: it has the ring of truth to it.

The only thing that could make it more perfect is if Black Cindy would have ended it by saying "Happy Hannukkah"

I did a literal jaw drop for the last minute or so. I mean, it wasn't Will being shot in a courtroom, but the emotional impact of Eli's admission of what he'd done to Will and Alicia all those years ago was almost as unexpected. Also, someone give Alan Cumming his dang Emmy already!

Yeah, there are a lot of problems with the show, but I still enjoy the bits of humor that sneak in. Like Nora being sent to babysit Alicia and Jason. It's really funny if you don't try to overthink it and just go with it: "I brought a book!" Hee! Nora is my favorite part of the whole thing these days. I have not, however, figured out the purpose of Vanessa Williams.

Well, let's hope they didn't seat him at the kid's table. Yes, I went there.

I just came from Tulsa, OK, which is only a couple hours west of there. I think they're only going to get rain in eastern OK, western AR. The temp line between 33 and 32 degrees is supposed to stop smack dab on top of Oklahoma City (where I live) basically splitting the city in two. The eastern half will get rain tonight and tomorrow, and the western half will get ice. Yes, we say things like "smack dab" in Oklahoma. It's charming. That's it for the weather report. Now back to you, bigskygirl!

Awww, thanks! I'm sorry if I took things off topic, but I just couldn't resist on this day of thanks! On topic--has anyone been monitoring the various Duggar social media today for any Joshie sightings? I was going to, but I'm still digesting my Thanksgiving dinner and don't want to puke it up.

I'm thankful today (and every day) for the AWESOME mods who run this forum with grace, wisdom, discretion and humor--even if it is through gritted teeth sometimes :-) Love you ladies!! Happy Thanksgiving!