Retired at last

And Kristin will go to jail rather than admit that her kid is a monster - wait, didn't that happen before (Lucas taking the blame?). How novel to repeat that plot AGAIN. I forgot about Jan and Charlie Dale. Speaking of, isn't it about time for Jan to return with Shawn D's kid? Oh, Ron, how we miss you NOT.

Well, if it DOES turn out to be young Rachel, I am going to assume it is an accident and I don't think that will be very satisfying since there are so many people who truly are willing to kill him, for good reasons. To waste all that build-up on an accident is lazy.

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Wasn't Vivian in jail or is she out again? What is rightfully hers? I am glad to see that Sami will finally have a conversation with Johnny and I hope he gives her as hard a time as he gave EJ. Harder, actually. As others have said, Lucas should be there. Poor Xander. There is no one he can trust, except Maggie.

Usually you only see women in the commercials for it, but they will take anyone's money. I had something like it done years ago, and it is excruciatingly painful since you are awake. Men would not tolerate that for vanity like women, unfortunately, would and do. But, I agree that Allen doesn't seem like a candidate and I don't see him as a spokesperson who will resonate with men.

Rafe sure is a jerk these days. And, yippee, Sami is back to scream and fight and scream some more. And, sleep with exes. Let's see. . . her son just found out the nasty truth about his conception; her father is missing; her latest ex has been shot, and she has the time to "comfort" Rafe?

I refuse to sign in just to see what is on a website, so I couldn't see what they are selling, but Karla doesn't seem to be mentioned much at all, as far as being involved with this "business." But, good to know that you can book him for an appearance at a party. Wow.

@Gator Stud, We saw the clip of Michelle telling them what she wanted and it described David perfectly, Madison said she had only dated White men, and PC said that they really paid attention to that. I think it all depends on how much lying happens during the vetting process. Maybe they don't want to get too specific so they can be cast. If Juan truly told them that he wanted an athletic woman with a booty, there's no wonder why he wasn't attracted to Karla. Other couples have said that they lied to be cast, such as wanting/not wanting kids, which is really dumb. Then there's the issue of how superficial people can be if all they focus on is physical. True, we all have a certain type we are attracted to, but if the person has the same values as you, maybe some of the things can be overlooked. I don't think that race is one of those. Remember when Myrla was upset because she got a really good guy who happened to be bald when she said she didn't want a bald man? I can understand why they ignored that "requirement" when they matched her with Gil. Anyway, that's why I believed them when the "experts" said that was a false rumor.

I agree with the producers not pairing people with everything on their Santa wish lists. Myrla was an idiot. Suppose she fell in love with a man with hair and then he went bald. Was she going to dump him? Well, not a good example as she probably would. But, for the superficial "requirements" I think that not filling them all is fine. It's when they don't care about things like pets, religion, wanting kids, etc., then they need to really honor those. Juan said from Day 1 he was there for fun. That's all. I really do wonder what those conversations off camera were like. I also can't figure out where the lawsuit fits. They seemed to get along mostly at the reunions, although Karla was never happy. I think that must have been a big blow to her ego to not be found physically attractive. Actually, I think more women would want to look like her physically than men would be attracted to that physique. I personally might even sell my soul to know what it felt like to look like that for even one day. But, seriously, does anyone actually wear ponchos anymore?

I guess that when they can't blame Clyde for a crime, they haul out Orpheus. I have never liked Sarah and this version of her is terrible. Xander doesn't deserve to be lied to and betrayed by the woman he cares the most about. I guess they will get back together in the long run, but I can't wait to read about it when he dumps her. I am guessing that it will be some Victoria health issue to get them back together again, but that won't be for a while. I hope Maggie gives her the silent treatment, too.

I am glad that Michelle recognized that her behavior and attitude were horrible. But, that doesn't change the fact that she never was or will be attracted to him. He is different now - he is HAPPY. Michelle would never make him happy. Madison telling her father for the first time about David moving in was as real as her telling David that she had feelings for him for the first time on camera. It doesn't work that way and both conversations were staged.

I think that Brandon just plays his game better than Ick. He is just as interested in TV "fame,"but knows the way to play Em is to sweet talk her to death with sentiments he cannot believe. I still can't forget when he called her his "Olivia Pope." I think that made it perfectly clear who he was looking for. And, all she wanted was to make Ick jealous, which he isn't. I don't think she is happy, either, @atomic.

Actually, both. There was a fakey fake commitment ceremony presided by Pastor Cal. Em wore a wedding dress and amazing shoes. Brandon is and always will be an ass. I think, at this point, she deserves it. She is a mess. ETA - If that huge rock on her hand was real, I would bet anything that she bought and paid for it. Brandon is not going to have that kind of cash with his divorce and child payments. And Karla did have a girls' party where they made their own candles and selected the scents that were meaningful. Then they named their candles and talked about what they picked. They were supposed to pick scents that helped them get rid of unpleasant thoughts. I don't think it worked. I do enjoy flaky Karla.

The number of responses pretty much says it all. Bye bye MAFS. I was really confused by the Ick-man and the divorce. I always thought that if the couples said they wanted a divorce on D-Day, the show helped with that process. Otherwise, why would people sign up if they knew the odds and then they would have to pay for it themselves? I did enjoy the Michelle/Karla conversation, even though it looked like neither of them were wearing pants. But, they both looked great. Michelle really did seem to acknowledge what a horrible bitch she was to David. And I LOVED how Karla realized that she could not be with a partner who is like her - I loved it when she said that, "Someone needs a plan and that sure wouldn't be me!" That is exactly what one of the issues with Juan was. Speaking of confusion - what is with their shared business and how does that lawsuit fit in???? Juancho's Ponchos??? Allen is a gentleman and will be fine. I agree that making David and Madison the success story of the century won't really work with most of the viewers. I still think David is way more in love than she is, but they seem happy. Now, Thomas and Camille. . . I wondered how happy he could be with her, and it looks like he is not truly. I hope he decides before they have kids. She just has an attitude that she is better than he is and is always so condescending and I think she is hard to please. Plus, as long as her personality is the type to enjoy making people suffer or worry so she can then just say, "Just kidding," I have no hope for them. That is a horrible characteristic and I think a serious flaw. (I had a manager like that and she came into my office one day, eyes blazing, telling me that the director of our division called her about me, so I thought I was going to be fired, just to tell me that he said I was a great addition to the team, etc. But, by that time, she had ruined any possible chance of pride I could feel, and I never forgot that.) Why didn't Emem seek out a divorce? Is Brandon still married? They are both too strange and he just wants his TV stardom. She is strange and always has been. Ick looks better and better. Not good - just better. I did not watch the follow-up show. We just saw the whole season replayed - why do another show about it?

There's also yet another follow up show where they will replay, yet again, the top 10 moments from this season. Enough already! We can't miss it if it never goes away! But, I will say that I appreciate the show filming these follow-up shows a year after filming since they took so long to show them in the first place.

Michelle asked the experts about the switcharoo rumor, which they flatly denied. I do believe them since Madison specifically said she wanted someone white and Michelle asked for a light-skinned Black man, which she got. So, it all boils down to attraction and compromising, which most of these people did not have. I don't care what PC says, you DO have to be attracted to your partner. So, do we actually know Juan's big secret? Is it that he has a gf already? If that was it and Karla knew on Day 1, I would have asked for a new husband. No wonder he forgot about her and enjoyed his day out with David.

Yuck! This has to be stressful enough, but can you imagine the group activities where you discuss intimacy with your mother there discussing whether she and her new husband have hooked up? YUCK!

That season looks like the couples may be a little older. I think that is better than the ones they get in their early or even mid-twenties. But, the other side is that the older we get, the more set in our ways we get. Oh well - maybe they will make successful matches on Peacock. Too bad we won't be there to see it.

I was fixated on his tie - it looked like it was made from cork!

Why did they keep showing David's hand with a wedding ring on with no comments? I'm sorry (not really), but those faces that Emem makes that show her acting just so superior make me crazy. I hated when the pretend boyfriend fawned all over her and called her his "Olivia Pope." Not even close. IF she had a miscarriage, I am sorry, but I have a hard time believing anything she says. Also, what the heck was the big surprise that was supposed to render everyone speechless? I heard nothing new. Knowing what we know now about Juan and Karla, I thought something might come out last night. She sure gave him side-eye, but she didn't say anything. And, whatever he said to make her family try to blackmail him must have happened off-screen, because we didn't see anything. Maybe he confessed that he already had a girlfriend and was just doing this for publicity. That is not a reason for blackmail since more than half of the people on this show seem to be guilty of that lately. Did Karla have ANYTHING on under that lace dress? But, she did appear to have larger breasts than she had during her season. I was also glad to see that Michelle realized that she was a huge part of the problem with David. I hope she truly does work on that and that the show will do a better job of vetting these people. Her own family and friends said that she is very guarded and hard to get to know. They only have 8 weeks - she is not the right candidate. I did not even start to watch that following show with all the best and worst couples so far. Did anyone? So, are we done or is there another show next week? It kind of looked like there was, but maybe that was just a preview for the show that followed. If this is it, thanks for the fun snarkage here and I hope we can chat again.

She definitely looked bigger at the reunion. I think I commented on it someplace - she looked very close to Michelle's size.

I don't think fewer people want to get married, but more people want to be social media celebrities and don't care what they are known for. The people who want to get married are using more traditional ways to meet people, or are still using dating apps, with little success. I kind of like the premise of Love is Blind, where they get to know the person first by spending time with them, sight unseen, and then finally meet them, but they have gotten to know the personalities. And, I think they just get engaged, but not married. That makes much more sense to me and will let people overlook those shallow things they state as must haves for MAFS, once they meet the person.

He said that on one of the Afterparties he was on. But, he just kept hoping it would turn around, so he didn't stop trying. He will be fine - he's a good guy.

I'm not sure I would want to publish anything that said that I dated him off and on for 2 years. So, what's wrong with HER? It shouldn't have taken more than 1 date to see him as he is. I don't care how well-endowed he is - just his personality alone would make that a non-starter. Shall we just put this ex- in the same bucket as the producers who seemed to think that he was good husband material? Actually, I give the producers more credit. They knew who he was because they didn't cast him for the Houston season. The fact that he came to Chicago and applied again showed that they knew exactly what they wanted to cast for Emem.

I don't think the surprise that would shock anyone is Emem and Brandon. They have already announced their "engagement." Plus, I don't think anyone really even cares or believes her. Maybe Camille and Tom are expecting? Maybe David and Madison already got married? Maybe Michelle and Karla hooked up? Maybe Karla finally told Juan that he can't sing?