Julyolo

Maybe the "let's prove Phyllis innocent" storyline is infuriating, because from the start hasn't it been shaky as a pile of Pick Up Sticks? No one seems to be questioning what bodies were in that ambulance, no morgue ever seemed to notice they were missing? So, Phyllis must still be in possession of the fake ID documents and her $. Currently there are 86 countries that have NO extradition treaties with the USA. My suggestion is the show writer send her to one, ASAP. If reading this forum posts have given JG any opinion that Phyllis' character is one of the great soap villains, that fans love to "hate watch," he is wrong. Most posts I read are bored with this character, and the overwrought, histrionic acting attempts the actress portraying her demonstrates. Wow! I was shocked at the flashbacks showing Sharon with face muscles that still moved. She is proof positive to me that trying to "look young" has actually over-aged her. Cameron is giving me Dean Winters as "Mayhem" in those Allstate Insurance ads. Not a very good look for Summer to be hating Diane by proxy for Phyllis. There are some theories that psychopathic personalities are genetic, this storyline seems to be going there. My suggestion is Summer disappear with her Mommy Dearest, and launch a new office for the Marchetti Home Decor division of Jabot called, "Scorched Earth."

So I spent this Memorial Day morning making pulled pork and potato salad. Sadly, I finished in time to see the show, and the sickness we know as Phyllis. It's gonna take me a couple of hours to get my appetite back. She certainly has the Narcissists' Playbook down pat, doesn't she? Grooming Dummer to be Duper's Delight 2.0? Triangulates her son to his sister by dismissing him doing the moral or right thing, as a genetic or child-rearing flaw from his father? Then disgustingly goes to discuss how important family is. We haven't seen any new sets in ages. Let's hope one is being built with a cell block for Phyllis and her terminally gaslite daughter. BTW, had to question why Mr. Positivity Billy was being so negative about Diane's future? He needs to pay attention to his own. Victor seemed to have a clue that the former surgeon, sociopathic side-part Nate was trying to crawl up his butt now too. He stood up, anyway. As for Victoria's hair....one Kool Aid orange head (Phyllis) on the show will be quite enough for me to swallow, thanks. It's a shame, I thought at least the color was lovely before. Well, anyway, I'll always have that portrait in her office to refer to.

Neil & Lily at the Jazz club today: "I wonder what Dad would think of us if he could see us now?" Me: "He'd probably tell you that you both need to move on, to grow up and get on with your lives." This "Phyllis had nobody" narrative needs to stop. She had Ashley and Nikki on her side. She decided to sell the Grand Phoenix. She lost Jack when he found out she had revenge sex with him to trigger Diane. She lost her job at Marchetti after 2 warnings not to use her position to sabotage Diane. To the best of my knowledge, when she travelled to see Lucy and her mom, she wasn't met with any rejection or hostility. I feel that this "poor put upon Phyllis" storyline is being laid on just as thick as her misapplied lipstick, and it is just as hideous. And someone tell the actress playing Summer to find another expression than her constant go-to trout pout, please. LOL at Sharon's botoxed face trying to register an expression of horror and panic to Nick about a return by Cameron to GC. She looked more like Chucky's Bride "Tiffany Valentine" to me!

Nikki still was "Nose Up" today in her no to Nate convo with her daughter, and I was intrigued watching that they seemed to have forgotten to put the "Crepe Erase" on the left side of her face. Either that, or there is a limit as to how much Botox can be injected into someone's face before it's lethal. Hope Sharon Case knows about that. When Nikki was walking all of Victoria's ex husbands down memory lane for her disaster review, she didn't even mention Billy! That's how important he is in the big scheme of things. I do intermittently like Tucker, but sometimes I get vibes off of him that remind me of how a grown up version of Eddie Haskell from "Leave It To Beaver" might have turned out. I felt it especially today during that riot in the Abbott living room when Diane broke up the argument Jack and Ashley were having. Jack was giving me Ward Cleaver, Diane was projecting June. So Audra and Nate will be replicating the unholy triangle Audra had with Tucker when she was was getting Intel at Chancellor Winters? My, my, my....Audra is certainly a one trick phoney. Perfect for Nate.

The actress playing Elena really brought it today, and her lines were not badly written, for a change. I was all in for the reading of Nat and Vicki for filth. Loved the consequence of her pulling her podcast from Newman! You literally go, girl! History moved along rather rapudly today with Jack thanking Billy for doing a great job at Jabot, while the dilemmas of Diane had him distracted. Billy's been there all of two weeks, right? Someone needs to tell Sharon that wearing an exercise bra under a crisp white shirt did nothing for her. Is the actress playing Abby pregnant? Her face looked ghostly, her hair was undone, and she had a definite paunch going on there with her gut today.

I like all of you posters alot, but right now I dislike this show so much. This whole Phyllis fixation has seemed to have forgotten it's basic underpinnings, IMO. Three nasty women: Nikki, Ashley & Phyllis, (who have all ridden their own character redemption arcs) got together for the sole purpose of harming Diane for their judgements about her past. Phyllis went rogue to DEFCON 4, and brought a career criminal into town to help her with the heavy lifting on this mission. I guess I am old fashioned, or petty enough, to at least want to see some karmic retribution about this. Next, the couples on this show are turn offs to me. Bones Vicky, and left part Nate with his boner? Yawn. Nick and Sally, Devon and Abby, Billy and Chelsea, even Jack and Diane to a certain extent are all boring. Ashley's sadist foreplay with Tucker isn't cute. Now, any chance that Chance will ever get one of his investigations down and done with an intriguing storyline? At least I could usually find Rey Rosales to be intermittently aspirational to watch. IMO, I hope the Writer's Guild strike gets settled soon, and JG gives up his delusional belief that he is the only writer needed. This show is floundering, thankfully this site here is entertaining me in the "meantime."

Abby: "You can never be too rich or too dim."

Sorry but Tucker and Yolanda look like Devon's peers, not parents. All this sitting around with/or talking about Baby Dom, and Devon was almost as wearisome as Big Daddy Billy pontificating like a parent to Connor. What was the purpose of all of those scenes? What storyline was being advanced there? Next, Daniel trying to blame everyone else for Phyllis' choices? She had a whole coven that was supporting her obsessed craziness. She lost Jack's support when he realized she only had sex with him to make Diane jealous. The town definitely was always pretty much split into 2 sides on the Diane issue, Phyllis brought Stark into town as a pinch hitter. In other words, whoever wrote this "lost and all alone" narrative as justification for Phyllis' actions, has lost the plot, IMO.

Actually, the actress playing Devon's mom looked younger than him, IMO. This show was conceived maybe 6 weeks ago, before the writer's strike, unless you factor JG firing all the shows writers as a strike. I found the show today so embarrassing I was ashamed of myself for the time I wasted watching it. Also, did Summer run to meet Danny in the park in her pajama top? The only actor that brought it for me today was Danny, reading Summer for the filth she is.

Sorry, I should have clarified. I was not referring to the postmodern meaning of a rack suggesting Victoria might have more than bee stings for a bust. I was thinking more along the lines of that medieval wooden torture device known as "The Rack."

Pay attention Nate. There's also a Gideon's Bible in every hotel room available for free reading, to get your moral compass back on track, and off Cruella's rack

Haven't been posting because I haven't been watching. Word to the writer of this crap: time is the true currency by which I calculate my wealth, I don't have an hour to waste on this show anymore for now. If I want to see a bunch of morally ambiguous people, I'll just turn on the nightly network news, any channel will do. There are too few decent characters left on this show anymore to contrast with the daily repulsive characters. While Phyllis is served up as the main course for our disgust, let's not forget Nick, as our appetizer for murdering Ashland Locke, without any repercussions whatsoever. He gets to walk around free, throwing shade on Adam on every scene. The portrayal of the "upstanding" families of Genoa City? They are all at most 2nd generation enriched, and the way the nepo kids such as Billy, Nick, Victoria, Abby, and Ashley are going reminds me of that old saying, "Two generations, shirtsleeves to shirtsleeves." They are rich as opposed to the truly wealthy, IMO, in the age old adage of "Rich screams, wealth whispers." These families are parvenues. At this point, if the writer isn't ashamed of his disgusting plots, storylines, and characters, the actors certainly should be. The writer clearly has no respect for this genre or the audience, but the actors have prostituted whatever level of craft they pretended to inhabit, by taking paychecks as a tradeoff to continue enabling this daily devaluation of a show that was once respected and enjoyed.

Responding to the positive spin about Phyllis on some other soap sights, I can only offer the experience of my youngest son, who was a paid employee of the show BIG BROTHER in the premiere year (2000), and posted favorable comments on multiple sites as his job. I'm giving a failing grade in chemistry for the Lily and Danny Jr. post sex boudoir scene. Just yuck, he looked seriously unwell next to her. Grief is not that physically debilitating. Lily does look good with her shorter hair though. He looked like he crawled out of a dumpster. "Save the Insane" Captain Billy rambling on to Kyle about protecting his own life, and not getting diverted by the dilemmas of Diane? The guy that ignored Lily's needs to cater to "Our Poster Girl of the Perpetually Needy," Chelsea? I am beginning to wonder if the actors on Y&R have even an inkling as to the meaning of character continuity? Billy should have laughed, and thrown that script back on the desk of whoever wrote it, IMO. Why are Jack and Ashley even fighting anymore? He needed to give Ashley the heave ho when he decided to move forward in his life with Diane. He has been well aware (for quite a while) that his sister has been up to her armpits stirring a cauldron with her coven. Then, on the week's previews from Friday, Ashley, the self appointed font of wisdom that criticizes Jack for making impulsive moves, asks Tucker to move in with her. Wonder where they will go to discuss that. Crimson Lights or Society?

Not the first time Jack went HAM and threw a chair, right? Ooof, did Abby wear this year's Easter Parade dress to the baby shower? What was that bit about when Chance was standing around, was he trying to get a clue in general, or specifically? Sadly, I have a low level suspicion Mariah may be going to the same Botox clinic Sharon lives in South of the border, down Mexico way. Nostrils and Big Boy Kyle in the same scenes could be used to torture confessions out of criminals, just "No," show. Then the preview of next week's coming events, "Phyllis, gone too soon. But not long enough for me."

Can someone show Victoria the way back to the ferret farm she escaped from before Nate reveals his true entitled, opportunistic, and ambitious side towards her, and sues her bony ass for workplace sexual harassment? You know, I take part of that back, because ferrets are cuter. Yay and yes to Tucker for reading Miz Ashley Abbot about her nasty, controlling, ego inflating interactions with him! Don't feel one minute of regret, Tucker. Ashley pretty much treats everyone else that doesn't conform to her "standards" the same way. Sharon's face freeze is painful to observe. Why someone would want to be so out of touch with their own face is really concerning, IMO. What happened to Johnny and Connor? Off playing with Christian? Well, at least we don't to have to be tortured with any advances in the coupling of Billy and Chelsea. Oops, sorry if I jinxed us! Hoping the show having Tucker sell out to Grampire doesn't mean Tucker is really leaving the bright lights of GC. Just like TPTB to give us something nice, only to take it away.

You knew Phyliis is a hacker, right? LOL.

Why does CBS keep offloading hams like Mel Rocca (Sunday Morning) and Natalie Morales (The Talk) onto Y & R? I know he played "an obsessed with Nikki" storyline before, but IMO this has the stench of borderline vaudeville, or farce. These cameo appearances are absurd in light of neither possessing any talent for acting, or even playing their characters as "camp." Somebody in wardrobe forgot to iron Ally and Kyle's outfits today, putting new wrinkles in to their performances. Kyle had his big boy tie so askew with that tie bar, it looked like he needed his daddy to fix it for him. Summer must live in the Metaverse. Everybody loved Phyllis? Her jail house monologue previewing Diane's future was a bit of a fail, considering her mother really is the psychotic delusional homicidal maniac. Must be lots of happy squirrels in GC. The nuts sure don't fall too far from the trees.

Don't think my questions belong on the show thread, so I am posing them here to you posters who are way more show savvy then me. First, the show seemed to start eliminating sets, stylists, good costuming, and writers. Now, younger trending characters like Ally, Faith, Noah, Moses, & Amira have gone missing. My question is could the cumulative salaries/benefits to "old guard" characters like Victor, Nikki, Jack, Sharon, Ashley, Nick, Phyllis, Victoria, Billy and the remaining "writer" JG be dragging this show down financially? Because IMO, these characters have all passed their expiration dates of being young (or for the most part restless) and the writing is dull as dust. IMO, somebody needs to hit the "refresh" button on the show and scripts. Hugs to all the posters here that are having health challenges, wishing speedy recoveries to you all, and the show too!

Brilliant Phyllis! You brought original gangsta Stark back to town to mess up Diane's life, now your life is more messed up then hers. What part of writing about a psychopathic criminal does JG not get? His backstory was all about using Diane to facilitate his life of crime! Why would he not have just choked Phyllis out today, when he got the first whiff that she is too mentally unhinged to follow through on not only his, but ANY plan? Why would we have to watch Phyllis explaining her feelings to a man, who clearly only understands the feelings he has for himself? To make it worse, the makeup artist has trout lipped Phyllis in a heinous shade of lipstick. No fairy godmothers, no magic wands, no daytime Emmys here, IMO.

Yes, desks aren't the best. Given that Mop and Nate both suffer from chronic ambition, one would think they would have at least sought out one of NE's conference rooms' tables to rut on.

Not alot to say about show today, except maybe Abby was right when she was opposed to Chance's desire to continue his career in law enforcement. Did he bother to fingerprint the strychnine bottle? Did he think to scan the memorial service crowd for any people who might have seemed "off?" Did he search the Abbott manse for any corroborating evidence? Did he do any drops on Diane's work or home computers, or cell phone? Or check her phone's location data to confirm she drove to the store to make that purchase? Fastest arrest I've ever seen, within minutes of him getting a text about the only suspect he ever considered, at the inappropriate insistence of the deranged alleged victim's unhinged "dottir." Where I live, it takes a little longer for an arrest warrant to be written, and a judge to sign off on it. BTW, Diane even lacked a motive, she had clearly achieved her goals, despite the coven and Phyliss' best efforts. I'm no detective, but I suspect there is more than laziness, hack writing, and a lack of plot development afoot here. IMO, this would be a full out assault on the audience's intelligence.

Did anyone else notice Jack kept looking right over at Phyllis during her "You"logy? Also, I suspect if any store tape of Di buying strychnine exists, it will be Phyllis in that same ridiculous get up!

Those extensions on Sally today make her look "fresh outta Coachella" IMO. Limp & lusterless, even the yak they sheared to get them is revolted. Nick was a wuss with Summers outburst today, per his usual m/o with women. Wonder how long til Sally figures that out? Funeral at the Neil Winters' Jazz Club gives our ghost cast member Neil some talk and face time again. No contract negotions with him, right show? All the chicks Phyllis slinked in with are wearing the SAME black dresses? ROFLMAO! "Simply Irresistible" needs to be playing so they can bust a move, even if it is a jazz club They even kept their arms and hands folded in the same way. Those not attending? Amanda, Nate, Abby, Devon, Hairyson, the girl from The Grand Phallus. Not so fast Chance, you better get some video of Diane buying that strychnine. Loved that Phyllis in disguise can hardly keep herself from breaking her cover, to one up everyone who is not doing her eulogies the way SHE would. What a narcissist!

Here's a word sandwich, beats the word salad the MWT's keep serving us! Maybe someone needs to clue Dummer in about the meaning of "confirmation bias." If Diane is sad at the funeral, she would be accused of being a liar. GC's Nancy Drew is not going to be able to correlate lack of visible grief with guilt. People fake their feelings all the time, Dummer, same way your mom always does.

Not terribly surprised to see Nikki has managed to get her nose ratcheted back up into the ozone so soon. Whoever, or what ever wrote today's episode and the ones since the day Phyllis supposedly turned into a "XXXtra Flaming Hot Cheeto" on her ill-fated ambulance ride, forgot one of the soap operas' genre all important tropes. One of her kids needs to be wandering, around incoherently ranting, they don't really think that she's dead......that connection still feels open. Then we could get scenes of Billy, Chelsea, and Sharon gently helping this person they have identified as delusional, but isn't. IMO I sense Phyllis will go to her own memorial service and "out" Stark. Diane and Phyllis will both bond from their fear of Stark,while under Jack's protection. Stark will rampage around GC like a truffle seeking hog, until he's intercepted by Chance, after he kills Diane. Seriously, there would be no way Chance would ever be permitted to proactively prevent or solve a GC crime, is there?