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Was just re-watching OMWF, and then a few other random episodes from seasons 5 and 6. It's been years since I watched BTVS! Came out here and saw this thread, so here are my unpopular opinions: Amber Benson did not rock my world as Tara. I've even wondered "what did Joss (or whoever did casting) see in her?" Sorry, all you Tara lovers. I found her pretty "meh". Alyson Hannigan never convinced me that Willow was gay. I realize 25 years ago TV was more discreet than it is today, and the show was aiming for wholesome, not lewd. The thing is, I never got that "I'm really into her!" vibe from Willow.

Fat-phobic is most of the men I know, especially those who are all about keeping themselves fit, into weight lifting, etc. And I would say a large number of the male contestants in TB franchise are into fitness / attractiveness. So if people want to cancel Jonathon for potentially being fat-phobic (if he is, since I have no idea), then the majority of guys on the show should be cancelled. In fact, you can be a guy who's totally out of shape and still be fat-phobic, I know a few...

Takes a lot for these folks to make me cringe, but by golly, Joan's post here did the trick. BTW, I don't like the official promo photo of Joan (on IG @ goldenbachabc). To me, she looks just a couple of steps away from Joker territory. YMMV

Rachel and Jenn are both attractive. Perhaps, though, TPTB wanted someone fully of Asian heritage, which I believe Jenn is. Rachel is half-black, half-Asian. By choosing someone who is of Vietnamese heritage, they avoid the whole "we've been waiting for Asian representation, and you give us someone who's not even fully Asian" complaint--a complaint that's already been voiced elsewhere with respect to black representation on the show. So maybe TPTB took that into consideration. (Also, maybe after working with both women during Joey's season, they figured that Jenn would be easier to manipulate and would make for a better show, who knows?)

They cast an Asian-American woman and I see one (maybe 2, not sure) person who looks like he might be at least partly Asian among the suitors? This tells me Jenn was a very last-minute choice. I hope they pivot and bring in more Asian-American representation. I wonder if Blake Killpack is still available. One of the hottest suitors ever (he was on in Rachel R's season, I think, but left early in the show).

I'd bet hard cash money that someone fed Daisy the line "If I can love the wrong person that much, think how much I can love the right person" (paraphrased). That sounds definitely like a bachelorette setup. But who knows? Also: I was thrilled for a few seconds when I saw both young women in the car. But the "surprise" was not really that dramatic, IMHO.

Daisy: I love you. Joey: Thank you. That's ... really special to me.

I think that her face hit the water wrong. She jumped, but maybe as she looked down to watch herself approaching the water, she didn't pull her head back up in time and it hit the flat water surface hard. I'm wincing just thinking about it.

Tonight's theme apparently was: "Let your guard down. Open yourself up and be vulnerable. Let him know how you feel, go for it. And if it doesn't work out, then at least you tried."

Is it just where I live that they just cut to commercial (Joey and Daisy pre-night portion of the day) and it's for DAISY cottage cheese? They're toying with us, right?

I believe that most of them are there for reasons other than "finding love". And from interviews I've read, some admit that they said what they thought they needed to say, in order to make it to the overseas destination, or to stay long enough to be viable for BIP or gather more insta followers. So for me, in that respect, Daisy is just a typical bachelor contestant.

alexa - folks are saying there are photos of safe-house visits posted (I've seen them briefly myself) that would seem to indicate that Daisy is not F1.

I've always preferred coffee dates for a first date with someone you don't know or barely know. That way, it's a cheap date, whether he pays for both or you go dutch, and no one can say or imply "I just paid for an expensive meal, so you at least owe me a little make-out session". (I know personally that there are men--and likely women as well--who feel that if they pay for a nice first-date meal, the woman should at least end the evening with a kiss, if not a full on make-out session and possibly sex.)

I thought I once heard a past contestant say something about how you can't necessarily go out and interrupt the lead's convo with another girl, even if you thought you had a good reason, for example, because you haven't had any one-on-one time with him. I thought the contestant said something about there being producer intervention sometimes, such as being told "wait, you'll have your turn" (and then there was no "turn"). But if Production wanted to allow a contestant to interrupt, for whatever reason, they would. Heck, I would not put it past Production to encourage certain contestants to go interrupt a convo just to manipulate the drama.

Keeping it classy. (That's what I thought when she said it. It was just so vulgar.)