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Except this makes her look even dumber. This guy was so uncommitted to her that he made out with a person who is basically an extended member of the family, and she just broke up with him. It would have been better if they said that Khloe split with Tristan despite her one-sided efforts to make the relationship work for the sake of their daughter. Period. Although I suppose that doesn't get ratings.

And she's there with Caitlyn...

IF being the operative word.

Random question - when Teresa mentions the article and Jackie just calmly says "you didn't read it" - is that based on something? Did tre say on the show she never read it?

In other news Danielle's divorce was finalized today. She has to leave her home by April or buy it from Marty. I will be curious to see where she lands. https://people.com/tv/rhonjs-danielle-staub-finalizes-divorce-from-husband-marty-caffrey-10-months-after-wedding/

With all this focus on writing and books it kind of just hit me -- anybody think that JAckie is going to use RHONJ as a launchpad to publish a book? Either parenting focused (based on her articles) or based on her RHONJ experience? I don't know, it just sort of occurred to me. I don't think she's thirsty to be a housewife, I think she's thirsty for fame. Now that she's gotten a taste of it, I don't think she's going to stop. Celeb parent blogger, author, RHONJ personality, etc? Jackie got a lot of zingers at Tre last night, but a lot of that felt calculated. She's watched enough housewives shows to know what Andy is going to ask about, she probably had plenty of time to think about a few things she wants to say. Watch long enough and you know Tre always goes back to her books as legitimacy for who she is (Jackie: I've met your ghost writer, you didn't write a book), accuses people of jealousy (Jackie: I don't aspire to be you), gets all flustered with her words (Jackie: I lose brain cells speaking with you), when her article comes up (Jackie - you didn't even read it), and when the question of the picture came up, which you knew it would (Jackie - was randomly walking by, 4 people were online, I was a fan, I got on line). It was all too calculated. She lost me when she said "oh, I had no preconceived notions about people at all!" before coming on the show and I laughed when Jennifer piped up with her "I did!" statement because come on...everybody has preconceived notions coming on the show. I thought the seating of the housewives was interesting and a big statement from Andy Cohen. It shows me that they're "investing" in Tre and Margaret as head howives. Melissa's "joe is a pig, I own a boutique!" story is boring, and her other primary storyline was tied to Teresa. And honestly, nobody cares at this point that these two have an up and down relationship and ultimately don't particularly like each other. Margaret is the one who brought it this season and she earned her place. I think Melissa envisions herself as Andy Cohen's secret favorite, she's the one that has lasted the longest after Teresa, but really, she's not. I'm nervous about Danielle sharing the stage next week. Everything about Danielle scares the shit out of me. I live in the same immediate areas as these people and if I ever see Danielle out anywhere, I'm getting up and leaving. I don't want to be there the day she snaps. She is a ticking time bomb.

I don't even know where to begin to unravel this, but I keep coming back to one thing. Jordyn is 21 years old. And people do REALLY stupid things at 21 years old. Now, that does not excuse the choices she made (assuming she was sober when making those choices, which I'm not convinced she was, at which point this becomes an ENTIRELY different discussion), however she's 21. Tristan is 27. There's a HUGE difference between 21 and 27 - in terms of how you make decisions, how you process situations playing out in front of you, and the choices you make. At 21 little Kimmy was married to Damon. At 23 Khloe was arrested for her DUI. People fuck up in their early 20s. So, while Jordyn has made a huge mistake here - and a creepy one at that - I hope that she's not the one the Kardashians drag through the mud. It's easy to blame the "other woman" - women do it to each other all the time, and I suspect this won't be any different. But if they can forgive Tristan for what he did the Khloe the first time -- that very public humiliation of his very pregnant girlfriend that was clearly not limited to just one small indiscretion in a bar, no matter what justifications Khloe made in her mind - then I hope they can show Jordyn the same level of forgiveness after years of close friendship with Kylie, her relationship with the family, and her relationship with little Stormi. Which brings me to Tristan. He's a scum. HE was a scum when he met Khloe, he's a scum still, and he's going to be a scum his entire life. He cheated on his first pregnant girlfriend with Khloe, he cheated on Khloe god only knows how many times, and now he's cheated on her again, this time with somebody incredibly close to the family. Where do I lay 90% of the blame in this whole situation? Solely in Tristan's lap. He is a 27 year old man who acts like the stereotypical 17-year-old-asshole-senior-captain-of-the-high-school-basketball team who thinks his shit don't stink. And I hope that Khloe bleeds him dry for child support. Because quite honestly, the ONLY thing this guy cares about is his game and his money. And that brings me to Khloe. Part of me feels sympathy for her. Despite Lamar's problems, I actually do believe that he fell in love with her and cares about her. But I don't think Tristan gave a shit from day one, and quite frankly I don't think he gives a shit about or has respect for ANY woman (Okay, maybe his mother. But that's about it). The writing was on the wall when Khloe and Tristan got together. Even if she couldn't see who Tristan really was then because she was so swept up in the "romance," she should have walked away right after True was born. And she was stupid. She is quite possibly the stupidest relationship person I "know." And while she is the victim here, eh, she's really not. TRUE is the real victim. That baby deserves a good man to be her father, and a mother who has some common sense about what love and respect actually looks like. There's a fine line between forgiveness and gullibility and outright stupidity. And you know there's something majorly wrong with the picture that's been painted when you feel more sympathy for a member of the cheating party than the person who has been cheated on. Khloe - if you or your people read these boards - you are 34 years old. You have a baby. You didn't do it before, so now's the time to do it. GET YOURSELF TO A THERAPIST. Go through all the shit you need to - your mother's infidelity, your parents divorce, your fathers death, Bruce's transition, the insecurity, the body issues, the bad choices you make in men, the public lifestyle that you lead that you seem to think takes no emotional toll on you whatsoever. Take the years (yes, it will take years, that's how therapy works), to work through this shitstorm and get it together for the sake of that little girl. You can't keep pointing fingers when you are making teh same shitty choice over and over again. And you don't want True making the same mistakes you do, day after day, no matter how many positive affirmations you say in front of the mirror. What a mess.

Is anybody else just laughing at the sheer stupidity of this??? I mean we went from screaming about felonies and table flips to screaming about sunsets and necklaces. Good lord that was stupid.

I love how literally no one cares about today's Tre scandal.

Holy editing breaks. I feel like they pieced this together sentence by sentence.

There is a picture of Jackie and her kids at one of Tre's book signings. Jackie said it was on her own social media? I don't know. Basically Tre accused her of being a stalker.

Except that's the premise of the entire housewives franchise.

Good riddance to Tristan. And honestly, from the start I think that Khloe wanted a baby more than she wanted Tristan. When she does decide to jump back into the dating pool, I hope she takes a long hard look at the types of men she commits too and makes a change. She should go out with somebody who completely goes against her type and see how it goes. She might just be surprised.

Finally just watched. Marty deserved to be shoved in the pool. Sorry but he is not some 15 year old punk who doesn't know any better. And he landed on his feet, he didn't fall backwards and whack his head. Danielle tries too hard to speak like a 20 year old. I FINALLY figured out what throws me off about Jackie in her TH. Her face doesn't move! I can't tell if it is a botox freeze, if she has so much makeup caked on that she only moves her mouth or she is being overly careful for the camera. But there is no expressiveness in her face at all. Cheeks, forehead, etc all stay frozen. Marge and her "your husband is in the pool" comment made me laugh. And to be honest so did Jennifer's when she said that she would have Danielle and Marty over another time when it was an occasion meant to have people in the pool. Who does Marty look like? He is so familiar looking.

Ugh. I just saw the reunion preview. These people are all gross. Every single one of them. And I'm about 1 disgusting JoeGo comment away from agreeing with Tre that melissa needs to control her husband. NOTHING he says is okay. And yes, Melissa can play a role in putting an end to it.

See I wonder if it's the opposite. I think if it was a done deal, the appeal would have been finalized and announced. The fact that it still hasn't been settled leads me to believe that he perhaps will be staying in NJ. that said, I have no sense of how these things work.

Does anybody know when the final deportation ruling is expected? Doesn't Juicy get out in a few weeks?

You can't be normal on the Jersey housewives and get anywhere with it. Maybe other shows, but not Jersey. It has been batshit since day 1. Agree - Jen is more polarizing. But she is likely to stick around longer.

Seriously. What the hell did I just read about and why is it in the press?

I've decided that Jackie's issue is that she and her family are too normal. And on reality TV, normal equals boring. She seems smart, can hold her own, but there's no umph behind her - perhaps because she didn't grow up in Paterson, or wasn't a stripper or prostitution whore? And her husband seems like a perfectly normal person, and engaged dad but hasn't been arrested or filed for bankruptcy (and I would assume he wants to keep his presence to a minimum, doesn't he have a legitimately successful career with a finance firm? I can imagine the partners frowning a bit if he were to be throwing punches at a christening). And her kids act in an age appropriate manner. Her house is nice but not gaudy or tacky, and not the biggest house in Bergen county. In other words, there is not much too snark on. I mean...her lip injections are uneven and in her TH it looks like she was having a bit of trouble moving her mouth but that's nothing compared to the others. Even her sister feud seems false. She hasn't spoken in 15 years but there was no real falling out they just don't have much in common and don't like each other. But her parents couldn't have everybody together? I cry false. I suspect they have seen each other at family events but that's it. And that doesn't make a compelling storyline. All that says to me is that in real life you and your sister were being so bitchy that you wouldn't break bread together a few times a year for the sake of your parents. I'm going to guess that one of two things happens. Either this show will eek out one more season to see what happens to the Giudice family and then call it a day, and Jackie and Jen will both be there for that. OR they will get rid if Danielle, keep the cast as is but bring in another "friend" from Tenafly or Paramus, and up the ante around that, and Jackie will either bring it then or be off the show. You can't be normal for too long. Was anybody besides me disappointed that hospital heroes only raised 25,000? I mean, come on. The housewives alone could have covered that and much more. They spend close to that on Christmas.

The Margaret description of her ex-husbands girlfriend connections cracked me up. As did JoeGo and his black widow of NJ comment

Aside from the big photoshop indent on the top of her head it's a sweet pic. But it also makes it clear the level of photoshop that Khloe does on poor True's face. Nothing says #proudmama than altering your infant's natural look And the caption makes absolutely no sense.

Watching 90210 in the era of "Me Too" is....interesting. That's the best word I can come up with. But Fucking Pigs works great too.

How did Jennifer come to be on the show? Jersey is the only HW show I watch but I feel like their cast always has a connection somehow or is a friend of the current cast. Jackie knew Marge and met Melissa off camera, and I think knows Siggy. (I also think Bravo is slowly but surely moving more and more towards this neck of Bergen County). What was Jennifer's connection?

Awww...I'm such a sucker for cute baby videos. Those are adorable. And clearly Stormi knows her parents ...unlike some other Kardashian kids.