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I do see that point but evidently Meghan texted Shannon afterward as a follow up and Shannon then realized who she was and made some snide comment about her being friends with Heather. So, by the time of the champs party Shannon was just being a bitch. Did Heather not get her real cake? Only cardboard?

Good Lord Shannon is a giant black hole this season! It was nice to see her genuinely laughing later on at the party (TP gate) but nothing David does is right, close to right, or even valuable in her mind. I get it, most marriages have ruts but it's how you handle the ruts that matter. Adultery is surely not the right option but neither is being a mopey harpie. At the least it has made me question my own self and make sure I'm not treating my own husband that way. I stay at home with 2 and 5 year old so it's easy to sometimes treat my husband similarly. Seeing Shannon and David is a reminder to check my own self but Shannon isn't doing shit to help improve their relationship, only making it worse. I was on Megan's side of the argument in regards to the charity phone call. If it is a charity you are passionate about and you are heavily involved I said charity would you not take any and all calls regarding said charity? She was rude on the phone and rude at the event. I noticed Tamra lurking in the background during that scene as well. Tamara and the toilet paper was funny at first but then it took a gross turn with the flashback of her and Eddie in bed. Then, of course Dr. Dubrow has to take it to the extrememe.

Not to mention some of the outfits she dresses Kaia in! Strappy mid calf sandals!! Granted, I only have boys but I tend to go,with practical over making a fashion statement. I guarantee her kids only keep the accessories on long enough to snap a photo. Kim is making tons of money hash tagging the shit out of her and the kids' lives. Comfort be damned!

To be fair, we don't know that Brynn wants to be with her mother. I wouldn't if I had someone like Beth for a mother. But, why does Beth and Brynn matter more than Heather and her kids or Kristen and her kids? That's where all of this goes haywire for me. It's as if the other girls should bend over backwards to accomadate Beth but shove their own children to the side, no questions asked.

Beth kind of makes me thinks of Kim Z. From the Atlanta franchise. Mostly disliked by all cast members, concessions being made to accomadate, etc then a huge ratings hit by giving her a spin off. I guess she's getting the "spin off" edit so to say.

I don't know.... I was pretty much on Kristens side during the Kristen V. Ramona fight. It seemed like it came out of nowhere. Maybe bad editing but I dint even think Ramona was in ear shot during the couch convo with Dorinda, heather, Lu and Kristen then all of a sudden she's on camera giving Kristen a verbal lashing. I think all the other girls thought the same as well. I was not surprised she showed up in Ramona Blue. It was a pretty dress though. It sounds like they all made concessions to accomadate Bethenny for this trip so I'd be kinda pissed too if she was "allowed" to bug out early. What makes her kid more important than any of the other girls' kids and lives? ETA: I did like Kristens wine glass dig at Ramona but then noticed she completely rammed into the dude standing in the doorway on her way out. All I could think of was that I hope she turned around and apologized.

In the past we have discussed Terry's use of the word "bitch" when referring to dearest CoCo. Honestly, it really didn't offend me. My oldest is 5 and we are currently trying for baby #3. However, I do have a problem with a parent that thinks their sweet dearest is old enough to be considered a bitch while at the same time said child still exhibits such infantile behavior. The paci sucking at 4 years old! Always being held and coddled to! It's not fair to assign such an "adult" term (bitch) to a human being that you haven't even encouraged to grow up.

Meghan is stunning, I agree. When I think she's about to say something ditzy I end up completely seeing her point. For example, her talking head about being nervous to meet new people and how she'd be nervous to meet her if she wasn't her. Made me laugh. So, did she and Jimmy show up for pre party drinks at Heather and Terry's place and then she arrived at the party with the other baseball wife? And the party bus was a bit overkill, right?

All I know is that I seriously can not watch Shannon and David and I used to like her. She's such a wet blanket. A truly miserable person. I can't. It's not entertaining to watch someone's marriage fall apart in such a raw manner. I did FF through most of their stuff. Why bother being on this season if all you are going to do is sit in the corner and stew? Tamara and Vickie are the same. Love/hate relationship we see every season. All the God talk at dinner tonight and the cameras made a pan to Tamara who looked really in "awe" and "wonderment", so we are already getting her devil turns angel story arc complete with baptism at the end.

Jesus Jugs/Jugs for Jesus. She must really miss Alexis.

Such great points mentioned here and to extrapolate on them: Sushi for a dinner party? Never in my house. I love Sushi but it's such an acquired, allergy ridden main course that I would never chance it. I've never cared one way or another for Heather but the whole getting up from the table and trying to lead Beth away lost me and I really, really dislike Beth. I myself have a four letter name that doesn't really need a nickname but my dad affectionately calls me by a two letter moniker, as does my husband. I've known my dad for 31 years and my husband for 15 so it feels very loving but when someone I rarely know attempts to shorten my name I get peeved. You don't know me like that! In real life I would refer to Beth as her whole name but honestly, with auto correct and my cracked all to hell iPad screen, she's not worth all the effort.

Mistakes happen and yes sometimes the tellers would forget to order money however that was very rare. Each bank has different ordering days and if it falls on a Holiday then you order money the day before or after your usual day. That being said, cashing a $1,000 check shouldn't "break the bank" so to speak but you never know when someone will walk in and want to withdraw thousands of dollars in cash from their account. For us it was mostly older people (70 hrs and up) that would wake up and all of a sudden distrust banks and want all their money in cash.

Now, in defense of the banks (I know, I know. In a previous life I was a banker) the only way to get rid of crappy bills (we called it mutilated money) is to literally sell it back to the fed. Depending upon the bill you had certain increments to sell it back in. One dollar bills for example had to be in straps of $100.00 which you can't sell back to the fed until you have ten straps of. You'd have to have $100.00 worth of mutilated one dollar bills before you can get rid of them and depending on the size of the bank branch it could take a while. But, to the point, I would never have given a bill so badly handled to a customer or in the ATM, etc. but, again, a lot of banks limit how much mutilated money one can have in their drawers, or tills at a time. Corporate BS to minimize loss basically. So, I guess on the topic of banking. I used to HATE when customers would pull up to the drive through and not be ready. No deposit slip, on the phone, using said phone on the calculator, signing checks, etc. all the while I had to stare at their pretentious mug at the ready for that moment they were ready for me. I'm a SAHM now but Before I go to the bank I sign my checks, tally my deposit, it's ready to go as soon as I pull in. I also already have my drivers license attached to the deposit or check if I'm getting cash. Which is another peeve of mine. People that act all taken aback when asked to show ID. It's the law buddy. Buying alcohol and look under 35, well, the cashier shouldn't risk losing their job because you can't be bothered to show ID. Cashing a check for $5,000 dollars, hell, $20.00, the teller should ID you. It's called CYA (cover your ass). Are you worth my job? Nope-show me ID buddy!

These people kind of just leave me not knowing what to think. On one hand they all seem very materialistic and trashy. On the other hand, neither girl has ended up pregnant or in trouble with the law, Brielle managed to graduate Highschool last week. I follow them on Instagram because I'm nosy and their posts are always about clothes, make-up and things money CAN buy and that's my biggest irritant with them. Never pictures of them volunteering or donating things to the community.

Love, love, love Dorinda's house! It's like mine but bigger, nicer and probably paid for. Harkening back to last years Berkshires trip, I think winter is the best time to visit with this group. Ramona surely won't need to have her own personal AC unit this go round. The house was beautiful but definitely had a not lived in feel to me. If it were me, I'd live at the Berkshires and weekend in the city. I live in the mountains, in a very well known town, a vacation hot spot amongst travelers. However, I live 25 minutes from the city. don't like city life, except on a weekend basis perhaps. My house is a farm house on several acres with bomb ass mountain views built in the 40's and while we have central heat and AC we have no insulation so running it is pointless (we are always working on updating the house) so in the summer we rely on open windows are and a breeze and in the winter our wood stove is our heat source. I already liked Dorinda but seeing her out of the city really solidified that for me. As a SAHM I was quite proud of myself for learning to chop wood, cords at a time and provide us with heat in the winter without having to rely on my husband to do it. In the winter the wood stove becomes my 3rd child. Anyhow, I want to visit her house and Heathers house right on the water was great too! How awkward for Ramona and Kristen to get caught talkng shit, if that wasn't producer driven. I somehow missed Beth in the first look. Possibly because I'm so sick of her and I automatically block her out but my DVR was acting funny.

Mostly, I'm sad that I scroll through most of these posts without reading them. Thats not the fault of my fellow posters, it's Bravo's fault. Why not give Bethenny her own show instead of turning the Real Housewives of New York into The Bethenny Show? This thread and the show reflect what this season has become and I don't know how much more I'm willing to tune in anymore. It's all about Bethenny all the time. BORING! ETA: for crap's sake we can give Kandi her own fucking Ski Show can we not give Beth her own show for no one to watch as well!

Also, when the dad of the kidnapped girl was almost raped, why didn't he get in his car and run Manson over in the parking garage? I mean, yea, there'd be no story but that was that perfect time to kill him and be done with the whole thing. I guess the ending though made up for it in the fact that e girls dad is really a jack ass too. His daughter is right there and he just wants to fuck Manson. Really? They certainly made their point that he is a douchebag that doesn't give a shit about his kid.

I had the same confusion as others in regards to the snitch and the partner. I couldn't tell them apart and oddly enough my husband was able to fill me in. My husband usually plays computer while I watch tv but last night was the opposite for us. Once he explained what was going on I was able to get into it. It's funny to me how much decades repeat themselves. Where I live everyone looks like the people on this show did last night. I did have a hard time believing this was actually set in the late 60's. Mad Men made it more believable, perhaps due to budget issues but the whole time watching I kept thinking I was watching people pretend to be in the sixties, if that makes any sense. And, on the Mad Men subject, I remember when it first aired all the local networks came out with shows based on that era that didn't pan out. My timing may be off but I'm thinking of ABC's Pan Am and NBC's PlayBoy Club (or whatever it was called) they were both one and done series'. Now that Mad Men is over it seems the networks are giving it another go, or it could just be my perception. However, if they are going to try again I like this Manson angle, it has me intrigued and I'm willing to add this to my DVR. I liked it as did my Husband so any show we can watch together is good in my book!

In a previous life, before baby #2 was born, I quit my job as branch manager of a bank. I could go on all day about banking pet peeves! The biggest of which can be summed up in two words: funds availability!

Watching now and I totally forgot about Peggy and Micah and Alexis' constant one up man ship with her. I have to say that if I have to have a holistic wife on the show I much prefer Shannon to Peggy. They just aired the scene were precious little one year old Capri (seriously?) is bleeding at the pool and Peggy is going nutso while Capri is oblivious. They of course have to rush her to the hospital. Gawd, I hate parents that over react like that. I'm glad she only lasted one season. Her husband Micah does make me think of Eddie for some reason. I could see them being friends. And, I dislike Slade and Gretchen but this was also the season where he was known as TubbaWubba. I honestly forget how long the two of them have been together.

....and then we get to Simon. While Tamra is no prize he sure was a manipulative jackass. What a tool. It is amazing to sit back and look at the big picture of how many marriages dissolved because of this show. With the OC ladies it seems that at least half of these broads are married to someone they weren't married to at the start of the show.

I'm probably not going to come across very good here but Beth can miss me with all her whining about custody and weekends with her daughter. The only thing that matters is that she willingly signed up for this show knowing what filming schedules were like so her excuses are crap. She's not the only one on the show with children obligations, etc and she for damn sure isn't the only person in the world with shared custody, divorce issues, shitty childhood, etc. I feel no ounce of sympathy for her and wish the show wold stop focusing on her so much. I realize that marriages can turn sour and unfortunately children can and are often involved however way back when she crawled into bed with Jason after having only known him for a short while she could have insisted on a condom or made damn sure she was on birth control herself. She didn't. To make matters worse, she decided she needed to marry him ASAP knowing she was a damaged individual. So, she was a dumb ass yet I'm supposed to feel sorry for her? Nah.

Maybe it's because my coffee hasn't quite kicked in yet this morning but watching Don and Vicki at dinner makes me really sad. I miss Don. He may have had his moments although I'm struggling to think of any time he was out right nasty without being provoked. He seemed like such a saint to put up with Vicki for so long and she essientially just shat all over him. He always cam across as a sweet gentleman. Now, internets prove me wrong!

Plenty of women matching that description have vaginal births everyday. I just thought it was a totally random comment for a dr. to make to a woman afraid of being pregnant.

I kind of hate that Cameron's OB friend told her that she was a "textbook C section" case. Based off of what? Way to needlessly scare someone, Geesh! And Landon's mom is something else. Do you know what she went through when Landon got a divorce? Way to make it all about you, mom. I could see my mom pulling the same shit on me. It's always about what she went through when something happened to me. Awesome venue for the party. I can't imagine the cost for a private party on the ship though.