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I think it's plain ol' jealously. At least that's what it seems to me. Bethany seems very in her feelings about Tinsley and Carole getting close.

Is anything Carole hints about top secret? We all know Lu loves the company of men. Adam was babysitting Lu's teenage son? Was Adam incapable of saying no? What's Carole's point?

Is she, really? That shocks me. I never thought of Sonja as a favorite or a vilian. Just the wacky drunk who lives in the past. Yeah she's had her moments where I disliked her and moments that she cracked m up. It never went that deep for me with Sonja.

That is hilarious and that's what I thought too. What is up with Sonja does really never eat at home? She really has no shame. ..sniffing her dirty underwear (that she has laying on the bed) telling the waiter she gets gassy . Carole and Bethany gave me a headache.

I never said she should invite her. In my post I was simply pointing out that I didn't buy the excuse that Kathryn used to not invite her from the beginning. She had no intention on inviting her. As I said in my post she's around them all the time to film. She isnt that uncomfortable around them or she would not be around them. The children are also around Ashley. So, they are used to her, It would not make them uncomfortable to have her there. A parent can invite and not invite whoever they want. Ashley is a crazy woman and I'd never spend time with a person like her. And after the complete crazy meltdown I'd make sure she was not around my children. This is a tv show and I was pointing out the storyline, that I thought was wonky.

I think Kathryn can do whatever she feels is good for her. And if she doesn't want Ashley there, im fine with that. I just don't buy the it would be "uncomfortable" I mean it might be but I just think it's all storyline. As we see next week, it's filmed. So not some private little party. Kathryn has been around Thomas and Ashley many times, even went away for a mini vacation (wtf) with T&A. Signed on to do a whole season with Thomas and his new girlfriend. Talk about uncomfortable , but she still did it. The children have been around Ashley. So she's not new to them. Ashley and Kathryn were pleasant enough to each other till Ashley was not given an invite to the party. Then she lost her mind. I guess I just dont think it's about being uncomfortable and more about having the upper hand (shrugs ).

I must have missed Aiden and Sophie's close friendship, they were good friends? Jenny has always gotten on my last nerve but I actually felt bad for her when Johnny was screaming at her.

Thank you for articulating this perfectly. Chelsea encouraging Ashley during the horse riding actually made me like her. Before that, I was meh about Chelsea.

And it wasn't much of a crotch...

I wish Shep would have simply walked away when she started demanding he get her a shot. Nope, there is no way I would have done shit for her. I like to think I'm a nice person but damn if I was Chelsea I would have gone off on her. Ashley was screaming at her as if Chelsea was a misbehaving teenager.

I can't figure Chelsea out when it comes to Austen. She doesn't seem to like him or want to be with him and well pretty much acts like he's a doof...and I don't disagree lol. I'm just confused about her asking about Victoria with what sounded to me was a jealous tone. I don't think it's that it's her friend, she seemed to give them the ok to date....Idk , like I said she confuses me.

Yes! I'm far from a Kathryn fan but hot damn Ashley you crazy!! At the end of the day I hate Thomas more than anyone!

Lol, I'll never not find a reference to Sonja and her damn toaster oven hilarious! Lu's apartment looked fabulous. She should have stayed home for the holidays...just sayin'.

All of this. I also hate when she's talking and closes her eyes, drives me insane. I know some hate Bethany and others Carole but me it's Ramona who works my last nerve. Of all the housewives she's the one I really really really can't stand .

I'm never sure how I feel when these crazy women are around "normal" people , (lol). The look on faces of the women giving blood while these loons talk about their poop or tits or whatever they were talking about, was priceless.

I'm sorry but I busted out laughing when Carole dropped that bomb for no reason. The reaction from Lu also had me doubled over laughing. Lol. And Bethany saying " I don't know if I said it? I have often thought it. " oh my god these women are crazy lol.

I heard MM say that, and saw red! No, RHoBH isn't as important as What going in politics, but I watch and enjoy it. Teddi Mellencamp is a lovely woman, who's fun and down to earth. A great addition to that show . TM did not feud with MM , she did engage but she was polite to MM. I'm glad Andy set MM straight. Oh yeah, STFU Meghan! Elizabeth Warren is amazing. Loved the way she dealt with little meggie. I'm not shocked MM loves Erika. Ice Queens.

Omg. I used to work with this woman , we're not really friends but we are Facebook friends lol. Anyway all 3 of her daughters follow her on Facebook. The ages are 9-13 and I'm So embarrassed for her and them. She puts the most pathetic things on there. How she can't find a man and she's ugly, just really depressing shit. I had unfolllow her she was depressing the hell out of me lol. I can't imagine reading all that stuff and being her kid. Sorry it has nothing to do with the show. I just unfolllowed her today and it was fresh on my mind. Janelle gave me a good giggle "we co parent well with our ex's" lol, wtf?

Love all of this.

They really are . Ashley leaves alot to be desired. However the snickering and eye rolls are rude as hell. I'm not saying I'd want to around her but it's pretty obvious she feels uncomfortable and isolated. Thomas is an asshole, yes she signed up for it but damn. The day on horses did piss me off , way to make a person feel like shit. This show sucks. Someone mentioned that Danni is on to support Kathryn. Kathryn seems to have everyones support. Danni annoys the shit out of me , she adds nothing except to giggle about Ashley. Fyi, Ashley can leave too. She's beyond annoying. Chelsea was trying to be kind to Ashley. I liked that.

The hostages released from North Korea. Sorry already answered.

I wanted to slap the hell out Meghan. I'm not a violent person but damn she is miserable. I don't get why she can't understand that it's the Freaking kneeling isn't about the flag or anthem. She can't get it through her thick ass head that it's about the injustice people of color are going through everyday. That basketball player was just tased and the cops lied and said he resisted....except oops he didn't . How can Meghan not get that? I'm glad her one billion and ten flags are safe in her freaking apartment. Ok , duh. I didn't think of that.

Why would they edit that out? It's who they hired . I admit I turnedit off as soon as she started to scream "I'm still talking." I'll watch it later if I'm up for it.

Oh damn, I didn't think of like that lol. Either way an insult. I think i read on here Carole is in her 50's, what a shit thing to say , is Bethany saying she's way older than she is? If it's in reference to Trump, very insulting lol.

I think it's this too. Carole might have simply connected with Tinsley, maybe was tired of living in Bethany's world. Maybe idk. They (C&B) have always been an odd match, at least to me. Heather and Carole's friendship seemed easy as does Carole and Tinsley's. Bethany and Carole imo brought out the worst in each other. I'm thinking of their treatmentof Jules. I wonder if Carole pulled away more after the election. Carole seemed very distraught ( I know I was). Bethany seemed to dismiss her feelings with regards to that. My point is it was a bunch of small things that drove them apart and Bethany was probably hurt that Carole was her pal as she had been. I guess Bethany can't acknowledge that so she makes it about Adam. I don't think Adam turning Bethany down ,is that strange. Yes it is charity work but he maybe just couldn't afford to do it without some sort of pay. I'm Bethany knows that feeling she hasn't always been rich and struggled in the beginning of the show. So her being angry about that doesn't ring true.