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I am now wholeheartedly convinced Kim is confused when she expresses her love of "turtles." I think what she means to say is "I love Turtle Time."

Yeah, seriously. I hate to just assume it was Brandi, but I can't think of any other "inside source" who might have talked to Kim since the arrest would somehow spin this to blaming LVP. And Brandi has freely stated she reads and h as contacts at all of these tabloids so it's definitely not an unfounded suspicion, that's for sure.

I loved that, too! One of my favorite Countess moments (right up there with "Even Louis Vuitton makes mistakes, darling" to Alex McCord after Morocco). There is audio but no visual during that fortunteller clip, if you listen closely, of Jill telling someone "I've been hearing in my circle that he's been cheating" (paraphrased). It wasn't a talking head, there wasn't even visual footage of it, so I never thought that was Jill just being an ass for airtime. I believed it when I heard her say it. I'm pretty damned sure LuAnn had heard about it, too. And it was pretty apparent Sonja had heard about it as well with her over-the-top reaction. And Ramona looked far too relieved when Mario (after a brief 'deer in headlights' moment) said the fortuneteller must have meant Avery. I think Ramona had heard those same rumors but was happy to let Mario persuade her that is all they were, rumors. While I don't like Ramona, I loathe Mario. Always did...he just always came off as smarmy as hell to me.

That article just stupefies me. I could almost see Kim's twisted logic if she had tried to blame Rinna for repeatedly calling her out and knowing Kim had lost the battle with sobriety. Almost. It wouldn't make sense to a rational person, but Kim isn't rational; however, Rinna would have been an easier target at whom to point The Bony Finger of Judgment than Vanderpump. Whoever gave that information to TMZ really seems to have a personal issue with LVP, because I don't understand how she comes into play with any of Kim's messiness. I mean, it's not like Kim went to SUR and Jax or Sandoval poured vodka and tonics down her throat at Lisa's demand. LVP is probably scratching her head wondering how she became the focus of this fuck-and-awe Kim caper.

Ahahahaha, my godfather was an alcoholic all of his life. He hid bottles all over the place...in the garage, in the cabinets, in the freaking baby grand piano at one point. Every time my godmother would find a bottle and pour it out, he'd just buy and hide another one. His favorite trick was to get a soda, dump out half of it, and then fill up the difference with rum or whiskey or whatever he could get his hands on. My godmother spoke to his physician, and he gave her a prescription for Antabuse to give to my godfather without his knowledge. This was decades ago, before HIPAA and confidentiality came into play, and the doc knew my godfather was a hardcore alcoholic. Gawd help me, but it was hilarious hearing my dad tell stories about my godfather (unaware of the Antabuse) would try to pretend he was drinking a soda and then violently start vomiting after a few sips. "Must have been something I ate." My dad, of course, knew what had caused the vomiting. And like the alcoholic you refer to, my godfather was a kind, lovely soul, a hard-working man who would give the shirt off of his back to anyone in need. My godmother's desire to force him to stop drinking was because of her concern for his health rather than any asshole behavior or abusive behavior. She was trying to save his life, but he didn't think his drinking was a problem (go figure). Rest his soul, he kept drinking even through the Antabuse but nonetheless when he passed, he had been sober for about 15 years. Not all addicts are irresponsible, unreliable, narcissistic balls of vileness like Kim.

I posted a lengthy post over in Kim's thread about my brother, who was my "Kim." I had to cut off my brother at a certain point, too, so I wouldn't hate him. It becomes self-preservation for a lot of us dealing with an addict at some point, your sanity or their addiction destroying your sanity. If Kyle has decided to cut Kim from her life, I would completely and unquestionably understand.

Gawd help me, I'm so confused (and totally NOT playing The Stroke Card here)... How in fresh hell would Lisa Vanderpump know who the fuck KIM'S DAUGHTER BROOKE was inviting to her wedding? How the actual fuck would Lisa Vanderpump be the one to break the news to Kyle that Kim was disinviting her? And how could watching a reunion in which she participated and fired her mouth off for about 3 straight fucking hours be stressful for her? Bitch wasn't stressed filming it. She and vapid Brandi looked pleased as punch with themselves during the entire debacle. Hell, Kim looked practically orgasmic a few times when she was zeroing in on Kyle. WHAT. THE. FUCK. I did read that article correctly, didn't I? I feel like I'm falling down a rabbit hole trying to make sense of this shit.

I'm curious. I wonder if there's any quick re-editing done of the upcoming Secrets Revealed episode. If, in light of this event, Bravo is intending to show any other footage they may have of Kim not appearing sober. I could totally see them ramping up whatever footage they have for the ratings, since this shit was the #1 trending headline on my Facebook feed all day yesterday.

Yeah, that could be it. I was leaning more towards Andy might have been instructed by Bravo/NBC legal team not to say anything yet. as Bravo is apparently not commenting to any news/tabloid publications yet.

Wonder if that's a little hair of the dog in that cup she's clutching?

Well, the Polo Lounge is known for its discretion and is the reason a lot of celebs go there, for the privacy. She's narcissistic enough to probably think she could belly on up to the bar, kick back a couple of drinks, and no one would be the wiser. And we don't know that this is the first time she's imbibed at the Polo Lounge, really. Hell, for all we know, she'd already knocked a couple back at home and then went to the Polo Lounge. She and Brandi were pretty pleased with themselves after that debacle of a reunion. Maybe Baby Jane thought she should go "celebrate." I doubt we'll ever know what took her to there that night or why she chose to drink in such a public way. Too many variables...and it's Kim, so maybe the bitch thought the mothership was waiting for her at the Polo Lounge.

I had a fleeting moment of sympathy for Ramona, too. Then I remembered her "perfect Trifecta" bullshit she was spewing to LuAnn while at the same time denigrating LuAnn's marriage to the count. Killed that sympathy pretty damned effectively.

If I recall correctly, Martin had zero interest in Kim. She had shown up drinking/using that night and I believe Martin had to drive her home because she was too fucked up to drive herself, and someone (dammit, I've forgotten who) had to follow them to bring Martin all the way back to Beverly Hills. Martin was a smart one. He apparently dropped off Kim and her car and ran like the fucking wind outta there.

No disrespect, but I have so much trouble getting behind some of these views. As the sister of an alcoholic who ultimately succumbed to alcohol-related illness, my brother had a choice. He could have gotten help. He chose not to. He had resources available he chose not to utilize. He could have put himself in "remission" at any time by making the choice to stop. He instead chose to keep drinking. And, as will eventually Kim, he chose alcohol over life. Yolanda has no such control over her Lyme disease. Hell, Yo is leaving no lemon unturned in her search for a cure. There's no cushy, touchy-feely "rehab" center Yo can check into for a period of time and come out with a fresh start. To me, comparing alcoholism - which has an ability to go into remission - with a disease over which the patient has no control of the treatment - must makes no sense at all. I don't mean to start a war here but I've lived with my own "Kim," and I cannot and will not lump their "illness" into diseases with which the patient has had absolutely no control whatsoever. Nicotine is an addiction as well. Yet I've never heard compassion for the smoker who chooses to keep smoking after a lung cancer diagnosis. Instead it's usually said that person could simply stop smoking, therefore they must not care if they live or die. Addiction is addiction is addiction. Addiction is treatable....if the addict chooses to do so. I'm already headed to hell in that handbasket, but that's how I honestly feel. She probably has her own personal bathroom there for just such occasions.

No fucking way in holy hell is the Beverly Hills Polo Lounge serving Brandi's swill. That's some Ramona Pinot caliber swill that will be probably be found at Target and mass liquor retailers, not an upscale establishment like the Polo Lounge. I wonder if she was calling them peasants.

As selfish as this twat is, I can totally believe that she indeed drove herself there and fully intended to drive herself back home...drunk.

To train Kingsley or Kim? It could go either way.

No one "put" Kim on the show but Kim. She's a legal adult of presumably sound mind when she signs contracts. Kyle is not her guardian nor her conservator. Again, Kim is responsible for Kim.

I'll bet he wouldn't let Wacha around Kingsley even if Kingsley were muzzled. Andy's a lying sack of shit about "liking" him. Pretty sure he's never been to Kim's home and I've never seen Kim trot Kingsley out on WWHL, so I'm calling bullshit on Mr. Andy. I don't think he's ever even been in the presence of Kingsley.

I think Radar OnLine was embellishing a lot with that story, weren't they, about Kim knocking back vodka and tonics all night? Since she's not denying the event occurred (which she couldn't possibly since the cops themselves issued a statement), I think she may just be calling them out on their creative "journalism" (which is pretty typical for ROL). The story is juicy enough. They don't really need to embellish it. Well, unless they have a reliable source at the police station who can tell us what she blew on her breathalyzer.

Until I see Kyle pouring liquor down Kim's throat or "a pain pill" down her throat or pulling puppet strings to make her spew her venom, I'm assigning responsibility for Kim's actions squarely onto the shoulders of Kim.

Eh, I don't necessarily agree. Kyle has shown empathy for others (even sending the disgusting mess known as Brandi a card after Tampongate), amongst other things. I've never seen Kim show empathy for anyone on this show, except for her bullshit grandstanding "talk" with Taylor about her drinking. Kyle also has the ability to form real lasting relationships, something most narcissists are unable to do. We'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

I 100% WANT TO KNOW WHAT SHE BLEW ON THAT BREATHALYZER AND A MUGSHOT!!!!!! Damn, c'mon, TMZ, don't let me down now!!!

Well, surely Kyle must have put out an Instagram about it to alert the world. Fuckin' Kim. I'm going to hell but this escapade has totally made my day. I've never seen karma bite such a vile piece of flesh in the ass so quickly. When she sobers up, this bitch is going to really be in 100% goddamned pain.

I actually can 100% goddamn see her doing precisely that. Insufferable woman. I do hope the "good" sister Kathy is ready to wrangle up a PR person to try to cover this shit up for poor little Kimmie. We all know Kyle's a bad sister and will just turn her back on her. Oh, hey, maybe Brandi will come to her rescue. *snort*