Tuxcat

I guess my issue is that if they are going to name Christine "powerful" for leaving, then they should name all three. Is it because Christine went first? Maybe, but she had parachutes ready and willing to support her. Her mom had broken free years ago and of course she has 6 kids and in-laws to lean on. The struggle to leave was different for each one of the wives - and Im not sure one story is more "powerful" than another.

True, but haven't we been told for years that Janelle keeps the books? Does the finances? No way she didn't realize that Meri had much less here. She was likely fine with it. In fact in the new proposed 5 lot division- she wanted Meri away from the "pond" and a bigger lot of gardening. That;s how the whole "in the trees" "not in the trees" routine started because Kody tried to convince Meri that she had said she wanted a lot by the street (she didn't). Janelle had a lot alone AND a lot shared with Meri. Robyn had a lot alone AND a lot shared with Christine. Why were Meri and Christine only given shared portions? Coincidence? The two wayward wives?

Gorgeous table! Oh and that cover up thing is marketed as a "DRESS" so I think given her sandals and David's attire, she's "dressed" for dinner. Attached a pic for reference and another pic also marked as a DRESS - so it could have been worse!

Hey, an interviewer who asks all the right questions! No need for four parts of Tell Nothing now. Observations: Christine uses more words than necessary! Also, I know they are "besties" now and probably do have a genuine relationship, but I doubt they hang out much. Janelle looks like she is easily overwhelmed by Christines constant dramatic energy.

Yes it seems an odd choice to put in their "sacred covenant" which he is choosing to honor (though seemingly does not choose to honor all those other sacred covenants). C) Perhaps he had already divulged to Robyn that he was in a pathetic place with Christine or Meri... Interestingly Robyns response to this was to say "Yes, but that doesn't mean the marriage is over." So it gets more perplexing.

Meri is thankfully the only one addressing the one thing they never actually talked about. They were in an eternal covenant in which she was sealed to him. If she left, by their faith, she would be shunned and risk issues in the after life. And Kody never left - because he said on camera that he would never leave a wife. So he just tries to make them leave first. But HE finally broke the covenant first by saying on air that he does not consider himself married. That is what unsealed her! That gives her the out - so now she can leave. Otherwise, they would have played this fake song and dance into the afterlife. Now Janelle on the other hand...still stuck apparently? It's so much word twisting here because you are bound by god in marriage - but you aren't actually living as a married couple and god is seemingly cool with that idea.

Are you sure? I remember listening at least twice and it sounded as if it was when they were teenagers. Edited to Add: I know they also referenced the knives and forks on the show at least one time. But it was on the Patreon video where they talked about doing it as kids

When Mykelti first started her Patreon I paid the 3 dollars out of curiosity (I discontinued it long ago). Mykelti and Tony interviewed Aspyn. They talked about how the older siblings were not nice to Mykelti for a while. They also talked about a volatile household in which it was common to break each others electronics, computers, and "throw knives and forks" at each other. But Mykelti also said that she viewed Aspyn as the one who raised her. It sounds like it was a rather chaotic way to grow up indeed. I know Christine loves her kids - but she has an immature, dramatic, childlike quality about her. And I think those kids suffered from the instability. Granted, Christine was raised in a cult like atmosphere and married young. Generational trauma I guess.

I wonder if they will share the contents of the letter. But wow... Proud of Jill and this book seems like it will be opposite of Jingers. Wonder what the ending will be. I also am torn on how I feel. On the one hand, people have to set boundaries against people like JB. I understand that. But with Derick's influence it feels less like a boundary and more like a complete, unreconcilable break from her entire family. And I worry about Derick's influence - all the time.

Well they are all "KULL PABLE" here to be honest. If Janelle is this logical intellectual financial wizard she could have figured out a way to convince her "best friend" to allow equal assets to each wife with itemized groceries based on mouths. It's not rocket science. I'll also say that I have no problem with Meri wanting an equal size house in Vegas. A) she wanted a house big enough to host the family because by their public premise -"they were all moms of all the kids" and she wanted to entertain and run Kody's MLM's which were already happening when they moved to Vegas B) Christine used money to landscape her RENTAL's backyard... These people were NOT hurting. Janelle is complaining about "mouths to feed," while they sign on the dotted line to purchase four brand new 4320 square feet (they were all the exact same size btw as designed by the developer when they bought the lots - they could only change the inside configuration) homes in a gated community. Cry me a river. I'm starting to think in the early days that Meri was the smarter one. Claiming assets in case she left one day? Good for her. Un fortunately her wits declined as time went on.

I watch her YouTube videos (sometimes fast forwarding) and find them fairly cute. I read on another forum that Gwen's study abroad semester has been cut off and so she's back home and live reviewing this season too. Not sure if all that is true or not?

I am having so many issues with these previews. Firstly, Christine says she wants an "amiable" relationship - but she's really having lunch with him for the purposes of TV drama. Most divorced people just send an email lol. And so in that respect Kody is semi-right. Both of them are tearing each other up in front of their kids. Christine does do it too. They are both guilty of spatting and complaining in public. Of course that's not THE reason Kody has a bad relationship with his kids. But this show - and their drama - certainly doesn't help. And I hate how Christine blames Kody specifically for having favorites - but yet she fails to mention that in the "principle of plural marriage" (which she gave up in Vegas because "its bad for women" according to her) - having favorites is very much the norm. More and more I just feel like we are all being played by this family - exploiting their family for as long as possible. They all stink.

According to a podcast I just heard - who was covering the live reaction from Mykelti - Caleb, Mitch and Tony have stepped into a father figure roles for the younger kids and Maddie and Caleb are the two that demonstrate what a "full functional marriage looks like" to both Ysabel and Savannah. LOL even 18 year Ysabel said "I'm most looking forward to seeing what a full functional marriage looks like" (clearly Christine has been talking!!!). And the spoiler regarding Savannah is that Christmas 2021 - According to this podcast, Mykelti goes on to say that HER dad is very different from the father that some of the other kids have. HER dad is open and honest and humble. And she's sad that SHE has that dad - and some of the others do not.

Gwen said in a YT video that Kody and David had met prior (likely off camera). She didn't say when. The whole Christine/David timeline is a bit fuzzy - and has even outright changed a few times.

Agree with this though we did see Kody getting together with various family members and even larger gatherings outside - throughout covid. I don't think there is any question that Kody used covid rules to suit his own needs. And I don't think there is any question that he mishandled this entire situation. Completely hypocritical. But, I still cannot figure out why it is so freaking hard to just pick up the phone and call his boys and ask for this discussion he wants. I have to wonder if the boys are also blocking him now. We know Garrison suggested lying about exposure and we know from Gabe's social media followings - the boys are more than likely to be against ANY covid precautions. Since they align with Kody in general, I'm sure they are just in a fit that he wanted any precautions at all. Let alone his misuse of them. So while I think it is entirely Kody's responsibility - as the parent - to remedy this situation - I'm seeing more and more similarities in his boys. It seems like both sides are just trying to dig in and make a point - at the expense of Savannah who really just wanted to see her family. Remember her saying - "can't we just do the rules for two weeks, so I can see my dad?" This was all filmed Nov 2021 right when Omicron was starting.

I agree they flaunted their up swings with Kody though I would argue Christine did too. People seem to always forget the Christine/Robyn BFF years. And I'll add that I think Janelle used her special niche on the totem pole to her advantage. She had Kody's ear and he thought of her as his "intellectual equal." It was Janelle who could paint Christine as a "princess" or Meri as "toxic." While Janelle didn't flaunt it - she for sure capitalized on her unique connection with Kody. Meri and Christine just battled each other for scraps of romantic attention while Janelle would frequently point out "I'm independent. I don't need all that attention. I'm unbothered." She literally said those things season one. And while true - it was a tactic to secure her spot on the totem pole.

Perhaps and unpopular opinion but they should not have discussed all that in front of Savannah in my opinion. Savannah can handle it I guess, but my mom never sh*t talked my dad when they were divorced (I already knew he was a jerk). Plus this actually proves Kody correct - and thats something we DONT want. My issue is mainly that all this is done on camera and intentional.

No more early releases - so now we have to wait until lit airs. It will show up on Discovery + shortly after air time on TLC.

I am in shock that the show which is already two years behind, backtracked even more! We already saw Janelle's apartment last season. Now this season, we have to watch her move in? Why? And the staged reenactments continue to be so very bad. Contrary to popular opinion, I don't even see a reason for Christine to be in Flagstaff or on the show this episode. Her lunch with Kody - shoulda been an email. Her "visit" with Janelle - completely TLC arranged. Annoying.

Well that would make sense if his original personal account was set on private. It was not. He was not a social media guy before and barely anything was on the personal account. Four pics top just a few followers (family). He just switched it over to his name so he could be MORE easily found. He has 66K followers and hashtags #christinebrown on almost every post.

No I'm with you and I take it even further. This whole idea of "four equal romantic marriages" is ridiculous. They didn't enter into this religious polygamous arrangement expecting a fairy tale. They entered into an eternal commitment which they knew would likely be hell. Christine's mother said it was torture. All of Bonnie's sister wives left. Kody's mom and Janelle's mom described it as literal "hell." So I don't actually blame any of them really. They all failed if you look at it from the perspective of the AUB. They made a commitment and each of them broke it. But through a realistic lens - none of them actually failed. They are just now re-calibrating to a more stable arrangement. It was NEVER stable before Robyn - or after. It was backstabbing, competitive baby making, with power alliances and shifting narratives through and through. Everyone vying for a spot on the totem pole. Favorites - check. Wives out to pasture - check. All the norm for the "principle."

He created a separate account specifically for social media engagement right before their "dating" announcement. Why vomit hashtags if he doesn't want to? And we will never know if Christine is truly happy. She's very skilled at saying what she thinks people want to hear. They've all been doing that for a decade.

I'm still confused regarding what he was late to? She said he was two hours late and that the reason he was not in any pictures at the reception (at the bar) was because he was late. Presumably this means that they had the wedding in another location prior to the bar reception. So he made the ceremony but then was late to the reception?

But did she use a marker to just paint some random red streaks? I don't get it. The comments are hilarious on her page. The majority say something about the filter and then people under those comments say "what? I don't think this is heavily filtered." You got to wonder what the defenders are seeing? Cause there is nothing about this that is unfiltered. Even more hysterical, over half the people calling out her obvious and perpetual use of the filter, have filters on themselves.

I like the second engagement pic much better than the profile ones. But they look very relaxed with each other in all three - which is nice! In he first pic- I don't like that their noses are basically squishing together. And the third one looks like a promo pic for a new TLC show. Hmm.