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Interesting that now that they've got two Ashley Ms, one is using her middle name and the other is using her last initial (at least that's what they're doing on twitter). Ashley Marie Ferrel = Ashley Marie Ashley Michelle Prochazka = Ashley P ETA: interesting disparity in the thigh area. Are some extra skinny or some a little heavy?

I'm just glad I don't have have to ever hear "welcome to the benefit pretty room!!" again. He tried so hard to make that happen, and I cringed every time it came out of his mouth Hey, now no dissing of Swatch. He's one of the few highlights of the season. To be fair, she did have one redeeming quality: a portly pug who smiles on cue. Tell me you didn't find that adorable.

I agree. She's kind of the "regular person" vote, the one person who doesn't drink the DCC kool-aid. I would've been shocked if Chelsea Chaney tried to come back this year. She's too smart and too savvy for that. I would've lost respect for her. I wonder what's the most time anyone had to go through training camp before finally making the team.

Any Monk fans here? Is anyone else getting a Natalie Teeger vibe from Shelley?

It would be great if they did a split screen during the judges' deliberations, so on the left we could see the judges talking, and on the right, we could see the performance they're talking about. The way they're doing it now, it seems like the judges' comments often don't make sense. Like when Melissa said Tessa didn't have her splits, and then cut to Tessa sinking all the way down into the splits. What do you mean she doesn't have them? That's her doing them, right there.

I just watched the episode where the bride's BFF said the dress had to be "snatch." And they kept asking her, is this dress snatch? These people must not know that snatch is slang for a woman's genitals. Every bit as crude as the C-word. The way they threw that word around made me cringe. Just like "jacked up" still makes me cringe. It being a synonym for f-ed up. Also watched the episode with the 23 year old who planned to marry her fiance in Hawaii. She brought her mother to the appointment, even though the mother probably isn't going to the wedding because her husband (the bride's father) objects to the marriage. Wow, they were dysfunctional. They made it seem like the father was some kind of ogre, but the fact that the bride is 23 and going into her second marriage tells me that there's more going on and maybe dad knew the first marriage was bad, and wasn't willing to support her jumping into a second one that looks just as bad. In any case, if mom can't support the wedding whole-heartedly, why bring her to the appointment? The bride was whining about how she wanted to have that "moment" with her mom. Oh brother. It's so interesting to me that people they don't get along with to these appointments.

The idea of Melissa in a big-sister type of role is an interesting one.

I wonder what Tessa told herself that convinced her it was a good idea to audition again, even though her kicks are still sub par. It did seem to me like she had improved some, but she's definitely not performing to the DCC standard. I think in her case, being a former training camp member counted against her. The organization had already invested time and energy trying to get her up to snuff. She needed to come back with spectacular kicks, and she didn't. Maybe she thought she could get the Loni Lindsey kickline exemption, but by all appearances, that was a one time only situation. Kelli is looking good. I like the dark hair better than the reddish chunky highlight thing she used to have going on. I still really hate the whole middle name thing. It makes them all sound like strippers. I wonder why they didn't use the real audition music during the segment when the dancers were learning the semifinals routine. They used the real thing (as annoying as it was) during the actual audition.

I thought I'd add the visuals. Although I wasn't a huge fan of Amanda's everything-but-the-kitchen-sink dress, particularly that one extra long trailing piece, it was miles better than Emilio's string and washers disaster. At least she had a finished garment. Justin's was better. And I'm shocked the judges didn't mention this, since it was just last season.

There was something so incredibly wrong about the scene where Anthony told the male dancers to take of their shirts so an 8 year old could inspect their abs. And then Asia tapping those abs with her whip. Obviously contrived and just wrong. It was sad to me that these parents know they're doing wrong by their children, by putting so much emphasis on Asia and so little on Bella, by the mother spending so little time with Bella, by all four of them spending so little time together, but even knowing that, they still aren't doing anything about it.

Shouldn't this thread be season 2? Anyone else have trouble keeping track of the whole captain thing? The way Dianna explained it, it sounds like they have Captain Head Co Captain Co Captain Head Drill Master Drill Master But when they announced the captains, I could swear I saw 7 girls standing up, not 5. I also did not understand Dianna's explanation of the different roles. She said they have the same responsibilities, but not the same title. What? Kayla is still captain, which I didn't understand, because didn't they say last season that she was graduating? If the auditions are in February of Kayla's senior year in high school, what happens when she graduates? Does the head co captain take over? Or is it based on age rather than graduation and Kayla can be captain until she's 18? Mimi's jacket said Head Drill Master, so does that mean camryn was trying to jump from that to head co captain? There was no way Dianna is going to leapfrog her over an older girl who has been on the team longer. Besides that, it seems strange to me to choose captains based on a solo and not consider their leadership ability. I also thought it was strange that the girls were auditioning in uniform. That doesn't seem fair to the girls who weren't on the team the previous year. They should've had everyone audition in shorts and t-shirts so it was a level playing field.

What's not to get? It's for attention. Just like the outfits, the cleavage, and the makeup. Every time they told the story, the threat escalated, until it only bore a passing resemblance to the truth. If there had been an actual death threat that only blue-hair heard, she would've been squawking about it the entire night. The cabbage patch was for the win. Not for Leha's loss. Not that I excuse the bet. There is something very funny about a woman as dragalicious as Vanassa snarking on anyone else's looks. Well, consider the competition. She was the only one who wasn't complaining and or back-stabbing every time she opened her mouth She's the only one who realizes the emperor has no clothes and the whole pageant thing is a load of BS. She's over the beauty pageant thing, so what's she going to do for the rest of the show? He's an idiot. And a self-righteous hothead. That was obvious from the moment he started complaining loudly that they weren't cheering for his wife. Such a tough guy. Why was he so interested in their conversation? Nick was a row behind and several seats over. I doubt he could hear half of what those women were saying, so he just made up a story in his head about what was going on, and went off half-cocked in front of his daughter. A real man dismisses gossipy, catty women. He doesn't engage with them. He certainly doesn't stoop to their level and try to take them down a peg or two in the middle of a frikkin beauty pageant. I do not understand how he made the giant leap from "they're laughing at my wife" to "they're a threat to my wife, I must go backstage to protect her." He's got issues for sure. But his father was the one who dropped the "how would you like to see him dead" line, so clearly the apple didn't fall too far from that tree. And the whole time Nick was eating or chewing gum or whatever, like a cretin. Dude, try to rise above, will you? None of this matters.

That photo was so bizarre. In so many ways. And it was HUGE. She is one of those women who employs a lot of distraction to draw attention away from her face. But when you see her with her kid and her husband, who are both quite plain, you realize that under the flashy hair, clothes, and makeup, she's no better off. 70 pounds isn't a lot to lose over a year. That's what? 5 or 6 pounds a month? A very healthy rate of loss. There was no indication that she was doing anything extreme to get there. And she looked terrific. It's human nature. Every subculture has a hierarchy. Even serial killers look down on Jeffrey Dahmer like "damn, I killed some people, but I didn't try to eat them!" That's what I didn't understand. Well, actually two things I didn't understand. One, why Susanna didn't change when she knew it would be an issue. And two, why it's such a big deal what you wear on the airplane.

After the abby lee competition show and dance moms, where asia outshone just about everyone, this series comes as no surprise whatsoever. The powers that be at lifetime would have to be complete morons not to offer this kid a show. Although I find it interesting that the focus will apparently be on Asia's music career, rather than dance.

I assume this was directed at me. Yes, I am aware she will be part of it. And I am thankful for the power of the fast forward button. And have been thankful for it for 4 or 5 seasons now. I don't object to Vivian being on the show. But I'm not looking forward to all the conversation about her here. I'm hoping there will be someone on the show more interesting for people to discuss.

I am 100% over the Vivian story. If she makes the Mavs, good for her. If she doesn't, that's too bad, but hopefully it means she'll be less of a topic of interest.

I find this photo very disturbing. I don't mind the DCC being sex objects and wearing very little, because that is their job. But this photo brings home the idea that they're teaching little girls to admire and aspire to be like little sex symbols too, and that depresses me. The junior dcc outfits should be more covered up than the revealing outfits worn by the adults. https://twitter.com/DCC_Jasmine/status/489791371218124800

Lack of common sense. Lack of forethought. Lack of an involved mother with common sense and forethought. Inability (or unwillingness) to do any research ahead of time. Take your pick. I am developing a theory that planing a wedding actually makes women dumber for a brief period of time. Exhibit A: every bride who shows up wanting a red or black dress and is utterly dismayed when there isn't a vast array of styles to choose from. I think they definitely edited the 19 year old to look like a monster. Starting from the get go when she was asked if she was "a sabotager." Her response "the one and only" didn't fit the question. At the end, when she said "you can wear that dress" it was very clumsily edited as well. Like they had to crowbar that sentence out of context to make it seem like she was grudgingly granting permission to purchase the dress. One thing the producers didn't do was make the bride look like a complete doormat. She did that on her own. I suspect the producers picked up right away that the 19 year old is the only person with a strong personality in a family full of people whose default setting is "go along to get along." And they ran with it as their angle for this particular family. I did like that the doormat bride chose a relatively modest dress. As always, I appreciate that the show a variety of gowns on this show.

Respectfully disagree with this. Although NFL cheerleaders do more dancing during the game than NBA dancers, which requires more stamina, it is not true that the NBA is an easier job. NBA dancers have four times as many games as NFL cheerleaders, and their auditions are far more rigorous. NBA choreography is much more intricate, complex, and precise, requires advanced dance technique, and represents a wider variety of dance styles. NBA dancers do not have, or rarely use poms, which often camouflage minor differences in precision and placement. Formations vary with each dance, and since only a subset of the squad performs at any given game, each dancer has to be able to fill any spot in the formation. A dancer could perform the same dance ten times, and be in a different spot every time she does it. NBA dancers also have significantly less rehearsal time to learn and perfect each dance and they generally do not do the same dances year after year. Contrast that with the DCC who have very little variety in their formations, perform the same choreography over and over, and have months to learn pregame and sidelines. Being a DCC is not easy, but being an NBA dancer isn't any easier. I also politely disagree with the comment above that the Mavs dancers are "known to be the best dancers in the league." I suppose it depends on who you're asking, but I bet more people (especially those outside of Dallas) would put the Laker Girls at the top of that list.

Maybe she dropped out on her own. Although it's rare, it wouldn't be the first time that's happened with a vet.

I think that was just one of those things that is an inside joke, and if you're inside, it's sooooo funny. But if you aren't, it just sounds moronic. How many cheerleaders have they had on this show anyway? That storyline is played out. Ditto for bride with dead mother, bride who overcame a disease, and bride who lost a lot of weight.

It surprises me that women going to a store to try on gowns, and know they're going to be on tv trying on gowns, don't wear the right undergarments, put their hair up, or wear shoes they can slide into and out of so they don't have to walk around the store in their bare feet.

Couldn't agree more. The whole "when I was a child, I never had a new dress" angle would have been more effective if the bride was 18 and just aging out of the system. But this was clearly a grown woman who had been supporting herself (and buying her own clothes) for years. The tragedy of her formative years just was not compelling. Or even mildly interesting. This is what I do not understand about this show, or the NYC version. So many of these brides feel that they "deserve" an expensive dress. Never a thought for the fact that someone else had to work for those thousands of dollars. Never the thought that they themselves could perhaps work for those thousands of dollars. One thing I do prefer about the Atlanta show is they do occasionally call the bride and her stupid friends out on this nonsense. I also like the fact that they don't haggle on this show. A sob story does not change the price tag. I agree with you in principle, although I must confess, I've been watching this show since season 1 and I'm still not clear on the difference between mermaid, trumpet, and fit and flare. Why is it so pointy? I also think this is one of those dresses that should be kept on a mannequin on the floor, because keeping that giant skirt crammed in a garment bag doesn't do it any favors. I can only hope it looks better on her when it's her size. I don't mind the bottom that much, but the top looks like it was crocheted by that crafty friend who makes handmade gifts for every occasion and nobody is honest enough to tell her it's all crap. I also have to wonder why a woman wears black undergarments to try on white dresses. Agreed. Lots more variety than the NYC show. Although we are treated to the occasional pnina-inspired masterpiece. All yellowed and curled up. Really gross. And it's 100% about getting attention everywhere you go. Another entitled child-bride. I think I might actually like the dress she chose, but her hair was covering so much of it, I don't know. It wasn't a good shade for her coloring. The other dress with the attached collar was horrid. I find it hard to believe that those two dresses were the only two options. That's something I don't get about this show. If I'm spending $500 on a dress, let alone thousands, for damn sure I'm going to try on more than a couple of dresses.

Vivian asking special permission to keep her facebook page up so as to avoid disappointing her legions of fans strikes me as a little self-important. She basically said she's starting a private page for the people who actually matter in her life, but she's going to do her "amazing fans" a favor and leave the public page up, just for them. I'm sure they all appreciate her throwing them a bone. I don't fault her at all for wanting to be private, but she's doing it in a very strange way. "Hi everyone, I'm creating something YOU can't be part of. Just thought I'd let you know that you're being excluded. Thanks for your support!" Intentional or not, it's very off-putting. Especially the "oh gosh I just HATE to do this" opening. Really, it's not that serious. Just make your page private and go on with your life Vivian. I assure you the planet will continue to rotate on its axis. I would like to understand where all these fans came from. And how many there are. I didn't see a number on the page, but if she's going to the trouble of address her collective fan base, there must be thousands, right? Clearly they turned out in droves to vote for her both this year and last year. But why? Had she done something noteworthy before all this? Was she locally famous before the show? Or is this just a case of "popular girl" on steroids?

Do we know that actually happened? This seems like one of those TWOP things that started as speculation, then became rumor, and was eventually accepted as fact. Jasmine Goode is on the Nerium bandwagon too. Good. I liked hers, but I didn't like the other two.