NinaH

Maybe the manager knows her family & hired her as a favor but doesn’t really care (or want her to) if she bothers to show up. If she wants to come play barista, fine. If not, fine.

Bravo to everything you wrote. Someone else mentioned this re Nicole, but I think she operates solely with/by her id, the pleasure principle which desirable impulse should be satisfied immediately, regardless of consequences. That sounds just like her. Everyone else’s VALID concerns are stupid, the overgrown child who obviously hasn’t had to actually fully pay her own way thru life knows it all.

At his age, he should know you play up your strengths, downplay (or at least don’t emphasize) your weaknesses. And that goes double for someone who supposedly has a background in HR.

You’re exactly right. Most people have no idea how low the bar is for parenting, and how high it is for DHS (or whatever social services is called in your area) to step in and take your child. Physical & sexual abuse is pretty much it. And if you manage to get your child taken away while you’re being investigated, they do everything in their power and give you multiple chances to get your child back. You’re allowed to be a sorry, selfish, self-centered POS who gives your child the bare minimum in everything in life and you’re in no jeopardy if having that child taken away. Robbalee and the fam probably know this, may have even looked into it. I know this is tough talking on my part, but if my son ever tries to hold my (future, he’s only 11) grandchild/ren over my head to get their way over some bullshit, I hope I have the nerve to call his bluff and show him that I won’t be controlled that way. Probably doing it very early on would be enough to get the point across and no other attempts would be made. But he’s not a fat impulsive baby as of yet, so maybe that’s nothing I’ll ever have to reconsider my stand on.

I posted this on another episode thread but I think it belongs here: It’s funny what a couple episodes will do to change your perspective. Now I am wondering how long Stacey and Jennifer, esp Jennifer, can continue to shove down their own feelings, disappointments, bitterness, etc in order to keep their depressed husbands from offing themselves. It’s not enough that they are being the utmost supportive, they also have carry the weight of their spouses mental/emotional well-being on their shoulders as well. I’d be very resentful.

It’s funny what a couple episodes will do to change your perspective. Now I am wondering how long Stacey and Jennifer, esp Jennifer, can continue to shove down their own feelings, disappointments, bitterness, etc in order to keep their depressed husbands from offing themselves. It’s not enough that they are being the utmost supportive, they also have carry the weight of their spouses mental/emotional well-being on their shoulders as well. I’d be very resentful.

Sounds like a terrific idea. Nicole is too effing stupid to realize that 10K isn’t that much money (as in, to HER it would sound like 10 million) and between them all, they could cough up a couple thousand each and be rid of her sorry ass. Relatives like her are exhausting, it’s always something and total drama & crises non-stop, and then they pull the ultimate selfish move and bring an innocent child into the mix, thereby cementing the family support forever. I’m sure they love her no matter what, but a year long break would be welcomed as long as they know Mae is safe & sound with them.

Did you hear Chantal shut her mom down, at the drunk wine tasting table conversation? At this point, Idk why Chantal doesn’t want that discussed? It’s not like they can ground her for lying. It would probably go a long way in smoothing things over but I guess that would make too much sense.

She probably conveniently left all that out, for sympathy and a handy dandy excuse to not have children. And is counting on Russ to be too dim to do any research of his own on the matter.

Whyyyyyyyy is she forcing him to babysit or play stepfather when he makes it plain he doesn’t want to? I’d worry about the safety & well being of my child to force him on someone who wanted nothing to do with him. Which I would never do, bc I actually do put him ahead of my own and don’t just claim to. With what all she’s spent on importing him and keeping him here, she could’ve hired a real nanny. And just got laid in her spare time without all these complications.

Troy’s wife’s pushy friend...it’s like she has ill-fitting dentures in. Very annoying. And speaking of Troy, he doesn’t get that his wife has every right to be pissed. That doesn’t mean she doesn’t (or won’t come around) support him doing what he needs to do for himself, but she doesn’t have to like the fact she was lied to and thought she would be growing old with him. The two aren’t mutually exclusive. I’d be pissed too at the thought of having to start over at her age and divvying up assets and being too old to recoup some of what she’ll have to part with.

Jennifer is the best! And I agree, I hope she’s not neglecting her own emotional & mental well-being. She’s a strong woman but she’s dealing with a ton of change and Lawren’s depression alone would be tough to deal with. Sometimes the strong ones get tired of having to be the sole person holding things together for everyone else. I told my husband that the other day, I get tired of being the strong one and the one to figure things out for the entire family and our issues are NOTHING in comparison to theirs. I can’t imagine dealing with the multi layers of emotions transitioning demands, I honestly don’t think I have it in me at this point in my life. May God bless each of these families and give them the wisdom and understanding as they navigate these difficult times.

There HAS to be more to the story than what is being portrayed. I’ve read speculation that David & Chris were in some kind of business together, overseas travel or something and Chris “helping” David was code for paying him under the table or whatever. But Nicki really acts like a woman who is fed up with her husbands friend mooching off them instead of the payment arrangement not working out.

Nicole is pretty much an all around disappointment and completely useless. I feel bad for her family having to deal with her. Yeah they are probably a good deal to blame for her being the way she is, but I doubt nothing they’ve ever done wrong (IRT her upbringing) warrants this. Azan cannot be this desperate, he is a nice looking dude and has a shit ton more sense than she has, and nor does he seem to really care about coming to America, and if he did, he could easily find someone better than her. I don’t get his angle.

Me too, unless the co-worker was instructed by production to give off a negative vibe, and a cliffhanger so we will tune in next week. I hope that’s what it is. Leslie and wife seem like such sweet, kind, unassuming people, I can’t bear the idea that anyone will be mean to them. When one of them said that Leslie’s dad stripped her down as a kid and locked her out of the house, that broke my heart. I hope the dad pays or has paid dearly for that.

And that hair color is straight up in clown territory, it looks awful on her. Am I remembering wrong, or did I hear one of them implying that it was Russ’s fault they she hasn’t been back to visit in all these years? Maybe if she wasn’t too good for OK, he could’ve paid for her to visit as often as she wanted.

Maybe packing a suitcase full of club and hooker attire to go visit your beloved, dying grandmother isn’t such a good idea, Pao.

Very well said, all of it esp the TLC part. That is not a network you want any part of if you have a real, authentic issue you want to work through. I am really worried about Larry/Lawren, she seems full of self loathing and even when she fully transitions, the damage may be too deep to overcome. But Jennifer seems like she’s trying to navigate this and not too concerned about labels (which if that’s what you need, is fine with me) or it making sense to anyone other than to them and their kids.

Exactly right, no easy answers for any involved. I hate for anyone to be so unhappy with their “self” that they are miserable and especially suicidal. But springing it on your spouse, if they truly had no idea, isn’t fair either. Even the wife of the lawyer, who seems incredibly loving and supportive, is struggling.

You’re a good, true sister/friend. My friends all know that not only do they have my permission, but that I expect them to straighten me out if I ever get out of line. I may not appreciate it in the moment, but when I am able to fully process & settle down, I will be grateful. And they get the same treatment from me.

According to Kim, anyone on the planet is, and rightfully should be, jealous of her and therefore a hater. The delusion is deep. Anything critical of her means jealousy and hatred. I see it all the time on her IG. (I don’t follow her but occasionally will look just to see what bs she’s spewing).

She’s always done it, trying to look incredulous and flabbergasted when she’s caught in a lie. It’s more prominent at the reunions when she’s being busted in rapid succession.

Kim looked like the total idiot she is the way she twisted up and contorted her face nonstop. Her ginormous lips also make her sound as if she has a speech impediment. And I loved that the other ladies calmly all said that none of them were jealous of her in any way whatsoever, because it’s too ludicrous to even suggest.

THats true, if it wasn’t for trash, there wouldn’t be a Bravo. That’s their thing.

I was hoping DBT would be cancelled as well. Why reward this trash with continuing her own show? My guess is that it brings in enough rating$ that Bravo Andy must not be too disgusted with her. ?