NinaH

Exactly. I'm bored, no money to go anywhere, watched pretty much everything on my DVR, house is clean...not much else to do but mindless bullshit to snark and comment on. Doesn't mean I GAF in the slightest.

I don't think MJ has ever been in a card before but it's possible bc I don't "keep up" with them every year. And they can't just cram into a photo like regular families bc they are above all that and have to be over the top just like with everything else they do. Also have to show off their wealth. I saw a pic of Kris in a Gucci fur coat yesterday. So obnoxious. As if a regular fur coat isn't bad enough, this one had the actual emblem blasted all over it.

That's pretty much what Robbalee said. I don't think there's any kind of guardianship going on.

Same. There's 365 days in a year and a gajillion people on the planet. Ones birthday isn't a rare, unique occasion. I'm all for acknowledging it and celebrating it if you so choose, but there's no need to be over the top.

I hope you're right. She's still young and now that she's having a child, maybe she can break free of her vile mother. Kris sold her soul for fame and money and isn't anyone I admire. When she posts about her kids accomplishments, she always puts #proudmama and it infuriates me. They've accomplished nothing resulting from true talent, intellect, or hard work. None of them studied chemistry or textiles, they've slapped their names onto something that someone else created (cosmetics, perfumes, socks). Although to be fair, I think Kourtney and Rob do have college degrees, not sure in what though. I don't know what their dad was really like, but it's a shame he died when they were very young adults, maybe, possibly, he would have advised them differently and we wouldn't be talking about them today.

I gladly admit to not having any clue what it's like to live based on how the public will react to anything in my life, especially something so common as having a baby. They've done a great job of staying "relevant" by manipulating their fans, and even non fans such as myself, but my interest is more bewilderment than anything else. And like I said above, it's obvious I need to re prioritize what I give attention to, I'm embarrassed that I know anything about their Christmas card and pregnancies.

Kind of like family beach pics with everyone in white shirts and khaki bottoms. Done to death. They've had some great pics in the past, but this years was a dud, almost grasping. And Kayne not being in the final one, when he was in a few others...wth? It still baffles me that Kylie wasn't in it, they could've positioned her to where her bump wasn't showing or photoshopped it out if they didn't want to use that for her announcement. Same thing for Rob, no reason he couldn't have been in it holding his own child. He apparently was involved in other festivities. Also, why do I even care? This family is vile, i need to reassess my interests in 2018. I just don't get Kylie being in seclusion, Kim and Kourtney got knocked up without being married and none of them are ashamed of their actions, so why now? (Not saying this is something to be ashamed of, this is 2017 after all). That's what makes me think there's more to this, it makes more sense to me than Kim and Kanye trusting an "outsider" to carry their child.

Not hate at all. But they are the most calculating fame whores ever so this would be right up their alley. And it's very suspect that Kylie isnt in the photo, she's around and involved in everything else. Rob isn't, and hasn't been for years so no shocker that he's MIA.

lol I just saw it and came here to see what anyone else had to say. The 25th was exactly like the other 24. Much letdown.

I agree. Sadly, Nicole is within her rights to be a complete and totally useless asshole, who makes poor decisions regarding her child. In the eyes of the law, she is not abusing her daughter. In the eyes of most of the viewing public, she's a shitty mom but that doesn't matter. From what little I know of DHS or CPS, the bar to being a half way decent parent is very very low. The absolute bare minimum is required of a parent. Nicole feeds her child, has a roof over her head with running water and electricity, and doesn't appear to physically abuse her. Anything else May (or any child in the US) gets is gravy. And even if May was being abused or neglected in the most horrific sense, Nicole would be given all the tools, resources, and help she wanted to get her back. Again, she'd have to meet the bare minimum to get her back. That's my personal observations in cases I've known of, not personal experience, so i may be off base here.

The Christmas card teases are boring, they are all starting to look the same. They haven't shown the 25th as of now, they probably had to wait for everyone to konvene to post it so they can watch the Internet explode. So much drama. something about Kylie's pregnancy and Kim's surrogate stories just seem off. This family exploits EVERYTHING and these 2 situations are being kept under wraps,with Kylie being in hiding, but that could be for maximum effect when the time comes. What few little hints being thrown out could be red herrings. I won't be surprised if Kylie is Kim's surrogate, it makes more sense than anything and also why they are sitting on both stories.

Amen to everything you said, esp your last paragraph. If I had a daughter like Nicole, as much of a pain in the ass as it would be, I'd gladly pay whatever I had to pay and see to it that she got her depo shots. No excuses about not being able to get there, afford it or scheduling conflict. At the clinic where I work, when you get your injection, you set up the next appt. when you're checking out. I hope May has a strong constitution and self discipline to overcome having Nicole for a mother. She's gonna need it.

Eh, don't be. I don't think he's physically attractive, but I very much like a no nonsense, confident, with a healthy dash of cockiness man. Someone who can handle his business and knows how to handle me (not in any abusive way) because I can be a handful. That is a major turn on for me, regardless of looks.

I just hope Nicole is on some kind of birth control like an implant or depo shot, something that can give me peace of mind of whether or not she'll have to remember to take a pill.

This is probably going to sound ugly and I don't mean for it to, but May seems like one miserable child. Which is totally understandable, with having a big baby for a mother and indulging grandparents. She acts kind of bratty, which again isn't her fault, just the result of her "parenting". Too bad her real father bailed, he was the only person who would've had equal say in how she's being raised. Any other man won't put up with her mother long enough to impact her or will throw in the towel if he does manage to stick around. It's hard enough when the parents/stepparents are all mature and do what's in the best interest of the child, but trying to parent with baby Huey is any persons worst nightmare.

Also, Robbalee needs to just give baby Huey a smug, knowing look any and every time Nicole threatens to haul ass to Morocco. As in, "by all means, go for it, but please explain to me how you are going to afford a roof over your head, childcare, and a work visa, all without Azan and fam?" Because after seeing this show, no one believes he will marry her and so she won't be provided what she has here by his family. Doubt she can get public assistance there. Baby Huey may be hard to wrangle but no one should cower to her threats to leave.

Was it me, or was Robbalee acting like Azan, not Nicole, was the one being abusive?? Like she's so worried that things could get worse for Nicole? Because, no ma'am, Azan is not the aggressor in that relationship.

Your stepfather handled that very well. My fiancé is the same way with my 10 y/o son - he's there for him like a father and is as good to him as his own father but doesn't expect or command that my son think of him as a father, or call him dad. By doing so, their relationship has blossomed into one of mutual love and respect and my son thinks of him as his extra dad. My fiancé was smart enough to let my son adapt to him in his own time and in the meantime, be fatherly without forcing it. These nitwits on this show trying to push and force these kids into something too quickly just breaks my heart.

Aika needs to get over herself and wanting kids. She's had nearly 20 years to accomplish that and while I think Josh is a loser asshole, this isn't on him. I wouldn't like being lied to, would resent the hell out of it, but I would also wouldn't be desperate enough to put up with that shit either.

What? I've never seen Azan as happy as he was loading up the car and saying goodbye at the airport, except for the last time she was leaving Morocco.

Fishy situation altogether with that group. But re the firehouse, Annie should settle in and watch HGTV programs and get psyched for the endless possibilities for the firehouse. Maybe Chris would sell it to them and they could have something really cool to work with. It's not what I would pick for a home, but if I had to live in it, I could get real creative. Hell, the entire empty first floor could be made into an apartment and used for rental income.

Josh should take the stones out of his (moms ?) ring, have them set in a completely different setting and give her her heart shaped diamond ring later, maybe for an anniversary or whatever. That isn't what she was promised, but it is a family diamond that imo, shouldn't be sitting around in a jewelry box. Use it for what you can, for now. If she's determined to stay with Josh, ol girl is going to have to learn to compromise and never have high expectations.

And that is a strong onion, seems like yellow onion would've been more suitable for quesadillas.

Whatever it is that David Destitue has on Chris, Chris should just come clean about it to whomever he needs to come clean to, law enforcement included. Sometimes you can cut yourself a sweet deal by doing that. Nikki needs to be thinking about it too, if she knows or is in on it. Bc I'd be damned if I'd fork over my hard earned money for the rest of my life on Annie & David.

I guess the only comfort I can muster for Evelyn is that she's young and a virgin so unless she starts hanging out with some different, more worldly friends, she'll never know what she's missing out on re amazing sex with your spouse. It makes me almost want to cry at the thought of her wedding night and the possibility that she may just accept that it doesn't get any better than that. Libby's sisters making the proclamation that she always gets what she wants, is hard headed...made me yell at the tv that I'm sure they don't put up with shit either and sure seem to enjoy the finer things in life. Also pushy about HER bachelorette party and getting their way. I can't stand her family, except the mom seems nice.