Midnight Cheese

I don't mean this in a cruel way but I was thrown by just how sedated, medicated, messed up Kim looked under all that slap and those lashes. I wonder if she's on Antabuse and a high dose of a prescribed anti-anxiety medicine, maybe? I do find my compassion coming in though I really dislike Kim so much. She just shouldn't be on TV now and I am so sad she dragged her daughter into the spotlight on an even-worse show. Brandi seems to have hit that point where she won't ever look natural again even if she completely steps away from fillers and Botox. Seeing her throw her arms and hands around and try to sound cute-girl using Bethenny Frankel-old slang like 'sick' was sad. I don't think she's that much worse than most of these clowns, and it saddens me that she wrecked the weird opportunities granted by this show to the degree that she did. I don't know much but I thought Kathryn's reactions were sincere and I felt so sad for her. I thought Kyle's tears seemed genuine and Rinna's reaction was a little troubling. I'll just step away now. It kills the soul to see your parents age and change.

Not just you, bunny rabbit! Ramona's one Dr. Sharon Giese procedure away from looking like a gotdamned conga drum (with an annoying voice and poor verbal skills.) She's such a worthless, rude fuckstain, but kadooz on at least being divorced, BETHENNY. Speaking of thin bitchy bitches: I vote she's jealous of Jules. She who openly discussed having not-husbands pay her bills needs to shut the fuck up about wives having access to *family* funds. She's a wife and a mom, she's got a life too - and she would still have human value no matter what that Adderalhead twat says. Jules may be a crass dingbat too but the idea that everyone else is a lazy loser because they don't have an anorectic brand to their name is so fucked up. I miss Holla and Kristen (/small voice). I think they are both good people who value friends and family...no place for them on this show. I would be surprised if everyone but Carole *wasn't* a problem drinker/snorter. John, Dorinda, Bethenny, LuAnn, Sonja, Ramonster and Jules each seem off in pretty big ways (coke, wine, hard liquor, diet drugs). And I thought Carole and Adam were sweet and connected (/small voice). Though I say the vet-bound dog stool sample belongs not on a counter, CAROLE. I missed these broads even though I now like only maybe Carole. ottergirl, loved the 'Hamilton' stuff upthread, and high five for also thinking Sonja's not nice at all -- it's just obscured by what a drunken manipulator she is.

LOOK at how crazy she was (is). Chicken salad for a battalion, not one teen girl and her date. Hellman's jar trembling next to her, wondering when the spoon assault will begin. I can't. I cannot, ladies and gents. Dammit her poor kids. I'm mad at Yo!LAN!DA!!! (<-- tm cracked out Kim Richards) for bringing Kim's brand of insanity back next week. She (all 3 'she'-s but esp. Kim) looks horrible.

I agree that dead minihorses and camels are littering this whole season, with the affair, Munchausens and all else. I just don't see LvP as a victim - she's great at Real Housewives gamesmanship, and it makes most of her castmates mad at most times, and wanting her to catch a whiff of her own silent fahts (TM Ronnie of TrashTalk TV) once in a while. I'm giving the old girl some massive credit here - I think she can take two less than wily castmates wanting to 'bring her down.' She's done it for at least 5 seasons now. I also don't post about what's producer-driven (e.g., LvP asked about Eileen to give a storyline to Eileen and/or only at a producer's behest) just because I don't read the producer's blogs or Tamara or other things like that - I'm here or loving Ronnie's TT recaps, so I don't know and don't care how the sausage gets made.

Because like most humans, maybe Eileen wasn't that ready for a fairly random question being lobbed at her from a buddy as they were being filmed? Hard to say though. I know I'm going to have to hop like a bunny and stand alone on this one but - I don't care about the start of her marriage, which has been long, produced a kid, and where both of their then-spouses have had long-term relationships and everyone has co-parented, and where she answered in full last season anyway and got a wine-throw for it. This idea that Eileen 'deserves' to have to answer pointed, fail questions trying to provoke shame until she dies is pretty sad and unrealistic. I actually hope Eileen isn't carrying crap around from 16 years ago as active guilt and I gotta say, I don't think she is at all. But I don't think anyone - including people I hate for real, like certain completely hypocritical, politicians who are horrible, wife-dumping-despite-being hospitalized scumbags who have their next woman already at their side -- well, even they don't need to have this suppurating mea maxima culpa thing going on until they die. And I think the truth of it is probably no one ever does feel that way, no matter how desperately other people want them to have that burning red letter on them forever and will insist otherwise. People move on, just like everyone wants Eileen to do with LvP! One more thing before I hop - Brandi was an assjack by throwing wine but I know like I know my name that if she were around trying to weasel info out of Eileen about Vince and her affair this season, Eileen's second season, 99% of the responses across the interwebs would be, 'Brandi you rubber-faced loser! Get over Eddie, you suck as a mom and your weave is tragic!!!' A little different when it was La Lisa poolside in the Hamptons it seems.

But why is it necessarily whining, to not be thrilled that someone brings up 'oh, so when did you cheat?' over relationships that are over from all directions? When this stuff happened well over a decade ago and was acknowledged pretty damned openly last season? If both cheated-on exes moved on to other relationships and Eileen got wine-soaked, in real-life (if not Real Housewife) terms because she was honest about it and Brandi was trying to hang onto her RH job, hasn't she kinda taken enough crap? LVP brought it up in the way and tone she did to - IMO - be a smug bitch, full stop, no other bloody reason for it at all. She has a bizarre normal of puppy sex, seals are hot, lemme make out with that swan, most of it borne from the fact that at 21 she married a rich, significantly older man who had gotten his own fuckery out of his system, apparently, and who worships her in an unconditional manner often reminiscent of parents and children. To keep on keeping it 100, he is the primary architect of the wealth which granted her this fame and she's so used to his level of worship that relationships with grittier parts make no sense to her, but I get the sense that that really means she understands almost no one else's relationships - like 'that's weird' about how other people connect. And I need her on this show and think she's crucial and funny and I personally think her body is slamming. But she's also a bitch, a yooge one, and her sense of what she can do and others can't is maddening at times. Not everyone gets rescued from the banalities of life when they are barely legal and lives out absurd princessy fantasies, and probably not everyone who does that sees their normal as normal and thinks it's cool to smirkingly ask about how other couples came to be. I do wish that Eileen had said something like, oh when he nailed me in that seedy motel I just *knew,* didn't you know when Ken did that to you? - but alas.

I think I agree and I think LvP doesn't like Yo as much as Yo doesn't like Lisa and for the same reason - intense competitiveness with the other woman in Mohammad's life. LvP is terrible at peer to peer type relationships. She'll poop on you and blame it on a guard swan. She's gotta be the top-ranked woman - not person, not human, not adult, but woman - in any room. She can crack me up but there is a fuckton of Not Nice to LvP.

It's weird. The fundamental argument is petty, of course, but IMO Eileen did state accurately (thanks editors!) what and how LvP talked to her in the Hamptons. Big props to the analogy upthread that Lisa/Ken would go nuts were any Housewife to discuss the lawsuits they lost over employment practices at Villa Blanca - also public fact, much more recent, and much more relevant to LvP's image (as a successful bosswoman) in contrast to Eileen's image (as a soap stah - she hasn't shied away from talking about being thrice married unlike My Luff Yolanda's bullshit around David). I like LvP as a Housewife, she can be incredibly entertaining, but she really likes low-grade humiliating other people while fanning her long-term marriage and other things as shields and batting her falsies. it's not cute. Erika's makeup could be seen from Jupiter. Tone down the kohl, glam squad! I liked how game Kathryn was. Maybe she really is just what LisaR thinks she herself is - so Kathryn is actually pretty transparent and guileless, maybe, whereas I think LisaR is on some level deeply confused. Or at least confused about the meanings of 'enraged, 'owning it,' etc. Yet I felt some sympathy when she got it out there that she, LisaR, felt constrained about talking about Yoyo's behavior since Saint What's Moonchieyauzen of the Bathrobe has taken Yo's place. Not cute.

Even for a Housewife, even for the kind of dum-dum who believes 'I bray my unwanted opinions at people' and 'trial lawyer' are interchangeable, I can't believe how gross Kathryn was to Lisar about her food intake! I'm sure Lisa is on a protein/veg/some fruit/some funky $$ no-carb refined carb replacements/funky supplement/liquor at will, let the drinks flow but only at parties diet, with dessert like 2x-year. I ain't saying it's right, nor that it's easy, but for a well-off early-50s woman into working out with the muscles to prove it, who puts a premium on looking slim on TV for this job and to sell a fashion line, and who is openly concerned about keeping her marriage to an erstwhile sex symbol/current career-resurgent silver fox intact, it is not unusual. You will see a Lisar twin (not the lips but everything else) every quarter-hour of every day in the rich-bitch parts of every city in this country. Kathryn was messy and wrong and just mean. Damn! I agree with those upthread that Kathryn is likely as or more concerned about weight. She's the same age, she's had fewer gigs/jobs/careers than Lisa, doesn't have kids, and her man is younger. So I'm sure she knows by the kind of cruel relationship math that we know exists in their set, she feels she's got to keep it 00 or 0 and work that ass off - Hard Work Bitch indeed. But she doesn't have to be a bitch-bitch about everything, damn! And she was being a bitch bitch bitch to Lisa in particular and to Tom and Erika and Lisav, I think. King Tom sucks but Kathryn was just so out of control and made everything so uncomfortable. She is lucky that Lisar is pretty controlled in the face of most rudeness and teasing. Ugh, Yolanda.

Holy shit. Well, wow.

Faye can buy new faces and Chanel purses, but she'll never be anything but a lady who collaborated with the best-known TABLOID editor in the United States to rush to publish a book about her murdered friend's sex life within six months of her murder. Oh, and a sequel. Oh, but she was coked up? No, sober? - wait, which is it? When she gave her tawdry little quotes. In a just world Faye could choke on a dick, I mean, on the thing you fellate in order to give a 'Brentwood hello' (that anecdote is CUTE! What's cuter than selling that story within the same half-year as the subject's funeral? Nothing, I say!) Faye Resnick is a scumbucket and I'm insulting single-cell life forms, shower mold and buckets with the comparison. I love Connie Britton, and I love that her performance was, IMO, pointed and showed the absolutely disgusting selfishness of Faye to do what she did. There was NOTHING heroic, loving or friend-like in the portrayal. Beautiful.

Faye Resnick is a sack of shit. I believe in second and third and eightieth chances, but I also think Faye's peddling of that book, and her insistence after the fact that she was sober during her writing of the book(s) (there was a second one years later) and book tours, are completely telling of her character, and that she has none. I want to all-caps the none. She is a fucking piece of shit and worse. Connie Britton told the truth with that vapid, smug, shady, loyalty-free performance. I LOVED it. Faye can be a frequent guest on The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and try and form a facial expression and smug about what ladies do and don't do. She is nothing but selfish garbage and Britton's performance told that cat-faced fucking monster about herself. And I'm here for that. ETA - umbelina, I don't think Faye will ever feel remorse. She's been defending her story of 'Brentwood hellos' and 'giving a fuller idea of who Nicole was' and some people really loved that. They remember her instantly-peddled salacious stories much more than the scores of police calls, documented beatings, the 911 call and other evidence of the hell and terror Nicole experienced for years at OJ's hands.

She didn't write that she fucked anyone to hurt him. She wrote that she feared the consequences of doing so, but that she wished she could make him hurt the way he hurt her with his infidelity. It doesn't square what Faye wrote. Faye wrote two books. I meant to post that it seemed at least the second book came out after the letter. It's a decent guess. The loyalty thing - seriously, Khloe Kardashian could be more loyal to Kyle by not interviewing Brandi but Faye isn't to be thought of as a disloyal cat-faced fucking monster by writing about Nicole and Marcus, Nicole and fellatio, Nicole and her PRIVATE sex life after OJ hacks Nicole to death, and hey it doesn't matter any way because we think Nicole's kids ain't too fucked up? Maddon! Umbelina, you are breaking my heart. I'm so very sorry for your friend and her husband and those kids most of all.

Nicole deserved better than OJ (<---understatement of all time) and better than Faye, too. Read that over and someone tell me again how it was ok for Faye to insist in writing over Allen's testified contrary statement that Nicole was a sexually voracious Jezebel? How is THAT giving a more nuanced view of Nicole than this here letter, acknowledging things from the petty to the very, very serious? There is no truer sign of an asshole than a man who thinks a pregnant woman should only gain exactly the weight of the baby. I know a man like that - thankfully not my husband. Two men actually. The first was an inveterate cheater, and the second, routinely unfaithful and hit his wife at least twice. It's a through line. If you're too controlling, mean-spirited and unintelligent to understand that in human will versus biology, biology ALWAYS wins, you are not dating/mating/marriage material.

High-fiving this, along with a thousand baby angels (dammit why can't I insert the image of Liz Lemon here??) Yeah. Jeez, Brandi should get devotional poetry written about her and shrines erected for keeping it rill, and for 'exploiting' lawyered up, panicking co-stars -- instead of being treated as a worthless pariah, not worthy dahling of breathing in LVP's silent farts, which is what happened to her. I know people hate Brandi so much (not saying anyone active on this thread does, I honestly don't know) but she put people on shout who were **not decapitated** and therefore could **counter her tales.** It's a distinction with rather a difference. I'm kind of too outraged to say more - I have a young child, and my complex human life is not to be packaged for fucking money if my husband murders me in particularly lurid circumstances by any friends or 'friends.' It seems rather little to ask. Not that having a bunch of Dateline episodes devoted to your slaughter featuring your dear friend isn't a good thing.

^^ This all day and twice on Sunday, lunastartron. And wasn't it two books, not one, written/ghostwritten when Faye was sober? The Playboy thing is still hilarious to me. "I miss my friend. My murdered by her psychotic ex friend. He almost sliced entirely through her neck. I miss her constantly and love her kids. Here's my snootch!" And if Faye knows about sobriety for realsies, why was she soooo complimentary of cracky Kim's cracky thinness during season 2? In that dead Valley intonation, "Woooooooow. No fat. No fat at all. I'm jealous.' Faye rulz! Very expertise. Much wisdom.

Faye's a shitbag on two legs. Remember when Kim was still with Ken the (gay?) bull mastiff and she took over the bathroom at SUR and was just cracked the fuck out? Faye was there for the opening, just innocently looking for the fame no one but idiot Kyle wants to give her. And Faye was giving a visibly cracked-out Kim compliment after compliment, sincere-sounding, about how thin Kim was. It was hilarious and pathetic. So the report by some that Faye the expert on abuse and addiction was pounding shots because she was afraid her skanky shit was hitting the fan sounds right.

Amen. And it doesn't matter, should not matter, should never have mattered if Nicole was (one of) the other woman. OJ was a fucking dog. He controlled and manipulated a girl fresh out of fucking high school. If she mooned after him and drove by his house dozens of times, SFW? A lovesick 18 year old did that, someone get me the smelling salts! The quiet enmity towards 'THOT/'other women'/'whores'/'sidepieces' in RH threads is be-fucking-wildering to me, but none ever more so than here. Are we serious with this mess? How?? How are we still in this thread talking (falsely) about how she was decapitated in her negligee when it wasn't even a negligee, it was a DRESS that she got slaughtered in?!? When he was the person who controlled her from jump and beat and beat and beat her?? Jesus give me strength. OJ ruined his first marriage. OJ left his first wife. OJ beat the hell out of his very young second wife as verified by timely photos (cough cough Taylor cough cough your timeline is a lie, slug lips) and OJ cut her head off the stabbed her friend to death. Fuck Faye Resnick forever. She betrayed her abused, murdered friend. She betrayed those children. She burdened those children with spurious allegations about an affair that the alleged affair partner has flat-out denied. And she did it and as a consequence, the foul conscience-free waste of life fucked with jury selection! That is AMAZING to me. There were consequences to this mess. There was real harm. Umbelina, I'm sorry. You're a true friend.

It isn't all that speculative, any more than anything else posted. Bethenny has gone all Bethenny mouth-foaming in her defense after not getting the headpats she seems to have anticipated, yet has not simply written that she asked people who spoke no English for help in finding shoes. She intimates it but wrote, 'Wow @Kmart has 2 registers open w 5 other employees standing around & two speak no English whatsoever. Shoes are sapatos [sic but whatevs], right?' She never said she asked people directly, let alone those 2 people, and has no madrescrewing way of knowing the English proficiency of those people, anyway. Frankel is very fond of her blaccent and was right upon the edge of a very nasty kind of parody mocking the Atlanta housewives (and a famewhore is a famewhore, so I don't know where she gets off). I think she's got issues there. YMMV.

Those tits were in error IMO. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3416112/Ramona-Singer-59-flees-snowstorm-curves-plunging-swimsuit-Miami.html

What I wrote included how I think she exaggerated nothing into her obnoxious f'ing comment, and I would bet anything I have that I am right. These are stores by NYU and Penn Station. I think it was chaotic, she overheard a couple brown folk speaking Spanish, she was frustrated, and then made up her mind that they couldn't help her without affirmatively trying to communicate her question. I have lived in NYC for many years, and the idea that those particular stores weren't staffed with people proficient in English is literally not possible. It's not like she has an unquestioned history about how she packages her experiences. Even those who like her a lot, not saying you're in that number BTW, acknowledge BF is a lightning rod for people who think she fluffs her childhood deprivations and experiences and the expertise side of her moguldom when it suits. Here's my say something nice: I tip my hat to her seeming lack of blocking/editing people on Insta who don't fall over themselves to tell her that her body is spectacular - although she does have her rabid-assed defenders doing that, so where was I? Oh, here: https://www.instagram.com/p/BAKsAoxtPDt/?taken-by=bethennyfrankel

Doubt the bolded very much but YMMV. Oh, Quagmire. I have been to both of the Manhattan K-Marts and the odds of people employed there not being able to help poor little no hablo espanol Frankel are zero -- especially since there was a travel ban in the city, so the majority of employees who were around to staff the stores in these locations would have to live closer in, and not in the enclaves where some people really don't learn English and do just fine. It's just laughably beyond freaking improbable. This did not happen and IMO there isn't a way to construe it to make her right about this. What may have happened is she overheard two employees talking over whatever in their native tongue between themselves, as they've every right to do, and this is not a service-quality question, and Miss Entitled Melty Face 2016 was irritated by that, and didn't try to get help, especially when she wasn't accosted by breathless employees saying (in English with an Etonian accent, or elegant-sounding French - let's keep it 100), 'Oh my god, I love Bryn and your 100 calorie snak-paks!' There is nothing more entitled than being irritated because you can't understand what you overhear but are not actually privy to, and morph it into an issue of being failed by service industry employees. She did not clarify that she actually asked these specific people, 'shoes???' No one expects her to say, 'permiso, donde estan los zapatos?' If she had, I'm guessing they would've responded, 'over there, miss.' In English. This did not happen. And yeah, she has to double-down to sate the stans on the Twitter. Slow clap, Quagmire.

WOW. This was an amazing read zm! I remember reading about Marguerite. Remember OJ's recent girlfriend? He has caused big-time suffering for so many people. http://dlisted.com/2008/08/27/dear-christine-prody-its-time-to-go/

I'm quoting you but not picking on you. Selling stories out of school, while sober by her own account, of her recently gruesomely murdered friend, who left behind a couple of kids, is a fuckton worse than having screwy ideas about food and pressing them onto your kids (hello many moms/kids across recent time!) or being able to identify the dick of a married man and goddamn, do I not care about these spurious allegations of her catting around, and if they were true? SFW? More to the point, if we think life isn't zero-sum, both Yoyo and Faye can be despicable and holy fucking Cheezits, do I find trying to get a Vaseline-lensed-shot cooter spread 3 years after your friend became HEADLESS on the express basis of the 'celebrity' you gained due to her murder worse than Yoyo's Lemon-Lime-Busted-Implant Tour, 2013-2016. I mean, nothing's dead in Yoyo's world except her marriage. suomi a thousand slices of double-layer cake to you for your synopses. Thank you in particular for clearing up what Nicole was wearing when she was murdered. She almost had her head taken off by Orenthal The Gotdamned Murderer, and no credible evidence exists nor has ever existed to show she was getting ready to sleep with Ron Goldman, and even if she were sleeping with Ron Goldman and Rona Goldman and 10 other people simultaneously, it would change nothing. Faye is a slowly melting shitsack and beneath contempt. She and Taylor are on the sociopath spectrum IMO and fuck both of their exploitative selves and I only wish I believed in hell and that they would be rotisserie chickens for eternity, instead of just looking like them. That ENTIRE 90s rings of besties - Kris K, the Hilton/Richards crew, Faye the feline monster - are the worst humanity has to offer, and I'm not exaggerating AFAIC.

This is years old but the Atlanta Housewives (Cynthia, Phaedra, Kenya, Kandi) met Triumph the Insult Comic Dog! They were all at least okay, and two of 'em showed real humor in encountering a rude rubber puppet.