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I watched the later seasons a while back and was shocked how little was done to develop the Mark and David relationship. In season 8 they have that conversation before the wedding about how all they have is each other and they could never rely on their parents. Where was that for the other 5 seasons?? All their relationship is portrayed as being is Mark is just a bully. I know it's a comedy but it would have been nice in one episode for the B plot to be about them as brothers and their relationship with each other and or their parents.

Lol, this was the point I was making in my original point. No idea who that chick is but I really hope this doesn't turn into the Will and Grace reboot. Everyone is so happy to be back and the studio is filled with friends and well wishers... And they are all too busy being happy to be back that they don't realize the jokes aren't funny and the show sucks. I'm worried Roseanne has lost her edge. The show was fun because she was tough and cranky and never held back. Revival Roseanne could be more like Grandma Roseanne. Just happy her family came back to visit.

He didn't get accepted to art school remember :( lol From Galecki... 'Deep thanks to my Big Bang Theory family for knowing the importance of visiting one’s roots and loaning me out for a quick minute. Much love.' Sounds like Lorre didn't want to let him and he had to beg.

I guess no one else saw Galecki is back? http://www.etonline.com/big-bang-theory-star-johnny-galecki-returns-roseanne-sitcoms-reboot-91811

Something not right about that episode. I used to watch the show on TBS around the 2000s and they always seemed to skip that one. Like it wasn't in syndication. I only finally saw it years later when the DVDs. I've seen it on tv since and it always seems heavily edited. Like a lot of the Darlene and David part is cut like Alex and Nicky or whatever their names are. Also just the look of the episode is different. Hard to explain.

The episode when Jackie says she was a cop and could bring anyone down. She jumps all over Dan and tries to tackle him etc. There's a lot of other times she does physical comedy and she doesn't seem to have any chronic issues leftover. That was how I meant it.

Jackie was so seriously injured she could no longer be a policewoman... Yet never is her injury mentioned again...

There were no good Xmas episodes lol.

That's sad to hear but I think she was the biggest casting mistake in 8 seasons.

Funny how in season 1 they don't want to leave the kids alone to go to dinner but by season 2 they drive to Molene with Becky and Darlene staying home. In the first season that was just because Jackie was running late. In season 2 she went to Molene with them lol.

Sort of. When she goes balistic though isn't it because she feels like since she isn't the breadwinner, her duties as wife and mother aren't seen as being as significant or important? Until The Lunchbox I think it was generally acknowledged that her income was more supplemental and Dan was primary. Most of the second season she is unemployed and is jealous of Dan's success. The salon and Rodbell's were pretty low on the income scale and Bonnie says Roseanne was only part time. I doubt she made much tips with her demeanour as well. Back on topic, lol, her assuming that the father was likely the breadwinner wasn't a betrayal of her being a feminist ideals. Just an acknowledgement of reality in 1991 Lanford Ill.

In the birthday party episode Dan says when the 19 year old was trying to show him up "if I picked a sack of cement, he picked up two. If I picked up 6 2x4s he picked up 12. 2x4s could be used to make the molds for the cement like for a driveway or sidewalk. Season 2 episode 3, Dan says he had to give up a job pouring a driveway because he already had a job pouring another. By episode 4, Dan is said to be doing the drywall at the Burt Drucker job. This is the earliest reference to him doing drywall I've found so far.

Watching the first and second seasons again. Seems like they hadn't established Dan does drywall until later in season 2 and maybe season 3. Everytime he talks about a job it revolves around something a cement finisher would do. More than a few times he says "I'm pouring a driveway" or something to that effect. When they meet Chip's parents he says he knows the guy that did the parking lot or something like that. Also when his father comes to visit the first time Dan is trying to fix a cement mixer I think. I think they firmed up he does drywall around the time Arnie comes on the show.

They are both nuts lol.

I heard bits of pieces of the Will and Grace revival as it was on in the background at home. I noticed the audience reaction was REALLY raucous and they seemed to hysterically laugh at very line, even if it wasn't a joke. The actual jokes weren't even funny and sounded really hacknied. I'm sure the studio audience was all people very close to the show and must have had all the goodwill in the world. They were probably so exicted to see the characters back that they were genuinely excited. Me watching it in the real world did not have the same reaction lol. I hope Roseanne isn't the same.

It's just a look alike couch too I think. Wouldn't it be funny if they just all pretended they were still like in Season 4 or something? Roseanne still works at Rodbell's and Dan has a bike shop. The kids are clearly middle aged yet still live at home lol. Darlene and Becky still fight like teens. DJ is mostly seen and not heard. The Bowmans still live next door and Jackie is a trucker. Might work for one ep but not a 13 ep series lol.

No that was the ep when Bev visits and Jackie doesn't know when she comes over I think? Bev gets angry that Jackie didn't go to design school and the Roseanne gets mad that Bev never thought Roseanne could be any more than a housewife.

Maybe Chuck Jr and DJ hooked up? I have no issues with interracial relationships but part of me hopes she isn't the child of one of the original cast. I've said all along I don't want this show to be overtly political or have some Hollywood social justice message. I can see an episode around the child confronting racism in Lanford or DJ and his black wife having to describe their struggle through life or something. I just want to watch these 13 episodes and laugh. It's great to deal with real world issues but it has to be done in a funny way. Take the gay issue. Roseanne was truly groundbreaking in this regard but it was funny as hell. Sure Nancy and Leon were gay but there were so many killer jokes at their expense. People watching became more comfortable because they could laugh about it. It was no longer a taboo subject or something to be derrided. In the current climate around race in America I think everything has to be dealt with 100% sincerety. There can't be any jokes made about it.

I saw it. Just wanting Estelle Parsons to be there. Would have been nice if they updated the sets somewhat instead of build a carbon copy. Hard to believe real people would keep everything the same after 30 years.

The whole show mirrored her personal life. Her husband worked on the show as creative consultant, writer and acted in one episode. She was very close to her younger sister who was a producer on the show. Roseanne's character was very close with younger sister Jackie. Roseanne had 3 children (by Pentland) who strongly resemble Darlene/Becky/DJ. Her son's name is Jacob... DJ = David Jacob. Tom Arnold is brought on the show as a character and producer. His character's name is Arnie Thomas... Tom Arnold, get it? Tom's show The Jackie Thomas Show is referenced a couple times. Roseanne and Tom open up a loose meat restaurant in Iowa. Roseanne's character opens a loose meat restaurant having stole the idea from a place in Iowa. Roseanne says she is the product of incest and was sexually abused by her parents. Roseanne's character's parents are turned into monsters. Roseanne's character is said to be having a baby girl. Roseanne the person ends up having a boy so they end up changing the character to a boy as well. There's probably a lot more examples too.

S3 Trouble with the Rubbles Dan builds Roseanne a shelving unit because she was bugging him about the one in the Bowman's house. She says she has been bugging him for a shelf like that for 12 years. S5 Glengary Glen Rosey they are touring Jackie's future home and she says she has been bugging Dan for a shelf unit for 15 years...

Unlike Roseanne which seemed to have its own brand.

Haha good one!

Since we have a favorite quote thread, I figured it would be appropriate for a "least favorite quote" thread. Please post any lines you thought were untrue to the show, made you cringe, or that you just plain hated! The quote in the title of this thread refers to one of the episodes in season 4 after Becky gets birth control and Darlene finds out. Becky turns to her and says "SLAMMER!". So cringeworthy because even in the 90s I don't think kids actually said this and, in my opinion, Lecy totally overacts it. The other reason I started this thread is we got to talking about that "Feeding the Monster" documentary on Youtube. The main thing I took out of that was Roseanne hated the dialogue that was really "cute" or "arch" or something a person living in Illinois would never say. She wanted to keep it real and dispell the sitcom lines. That's why she fired so many writers and treated them like dirt. DESPITE this, I still find a lot of the lines to be "written to be read" and lame. Here are some examples: The main one is in season 5 iirc when Bev buys the apartment at the retirement community and Roseanne gets freaked out about her own mortality. Roseanne asks Darlene if she thinks of her as young. Well, Darlene delivers that totally phoney line about thinking of her as a friend and contemporary. It was SO bad that poor Sarah Gilbert couldn't even get through saying it without tripping up on her words. Clearly no person in real life would be clever enough to think up something like that on the spot. If they had just worked on it and simplified it a bit the joke would have worked better. Another example I have is in season 2 when Roseanne and Jackie confess to Bev all the bad things they did as kids. Roseanne confesses to spending time with Dan instead of studying. Then she says "Well I always got good marks" and without missing a beat, Jackie says "mostly on your neck" or something to that effect. I cringe everytime I see that lol. Such a sitcom set up to a joke and then the punchline delivered with perfect timing. The fact she says "marks" tells you it's a set up. Any real person would have said "I always got good grades" or something. Interested to hear all of yours. I have more but thought I would let others comment lol.

Yep I looked that up before too. I always wondered about the brand of various food products in the show. The black boxes with the white bold lowercase font. Could have been made by the production designers I guess but maybe it's some type of generic brand (oxymoron much?) in California that they covered the logos on? I can see a script saying "Jackie picks up a box of crackers" or "Roseanne takes Darlene's class to the supermarket and there are aisles and aisles of boxed foods". Do the production designers make all that stuff or just go to a store and buy off the shelf? I'm thinking the latter. Oh I know. But in that documentary they make it seem like Roseanne hated the episode and the whole thing was going to go down in flames. In reality I think she just wanted some of the jokes rewritten.