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DJ did the EXACT same thing as Roseanne did though. And I don't think they were that different in age. Not sure if they mentioned Roseanne's age but cousin Ronnie would have been 16 say because she had a car and Roseanne is said to be younger because she looked up to her and was going to follow her etc. So Roseanne would have been 13-15. I think by the DJ episode he was 12-13. So not that different in age. The problem is I think everyone just forgot Roseanne is said to have done the same thing. Otherwise they would have had DJ do something different.

I rewatched a lot of the seasons recently and noticed something I never did before... In the episode with Joan Collins, it is revealed that Roseanne stole a car and then totaled it... Then a season or two later, DJ steals a car and wrecks it and Roseanne totally flips out on him. Hypocrisy much?

I think Dan getting moody every month was just a punchline to end the scene out. I often think about if I ever introduced a friend to the show, which episodes I would start them on... The PMS one is not one just because of Roseannes behaviour like you said. Theres times when she has attitude and it's funny but there are a lot of times when she has attitude and it's scary lol.

Same with Roseanne's father. But the best way I can describe why she was miscast is by comparing her to Ned Beatty. He was PERFECTLY cast as Dan's father. There is a strong resemblance. I just felt there was no resemblance with his mother. She just looked like some bingo playing, beehive wearing piece of trailer trash. Plus she didn't look old enough to be his mother and neither did her boyfriend. Dan and him could have played high school football together.

I'm watching Arsenic this exact moment. Bugged me that it wasn't Dan's original mom... But Dan's original mom was INSANELY miscast anyways. I love how there isn't even a resolution to the episode. Dan just says "people with glass mothers shouldn't throw stones" and the episode just ends. So does she move in with them now or what?? Lol. Someone blamed new writers on lack of continuity. Looking back, Roseanne probably knew the season would end with everything being fake so she didn't care. Us as the audience didn't know it wasn't real at the time and that's always stuck with me.

And when they find out Leon is gay at the poker game...

Why? I liked Arnie...

I liked the episode as a whole. The Dan cheating/Darlene baby episodes were by far the best part of season 9. They weren't just self contained episodes. A lot of the episides gave me the impression that they had no ideas and just stalling for time. Notice how there's very few skits during the closing credits? Because they didn't have enough material for the main episode let alone the credits. Another gripe about season 9. I HATE the Wellman episode when Roseanne says "we turned over the diner to the people who just worked there" or whatever... Sorry but Leon and Nancy were co owners. Just completely ignoring continuity. And the episode previous when they turn the Diner over, she says something like "now you guys can know what it was like when we first opened it" or something. Like sorry, but Nancy was an original owner...

Weren't there later episodes where he still wouldn't take her call though? Lol.

It's easier to write for a smart ass, sarcastic character than it is for a goodie two shoes so it makes sense they favoured Darlene. I think Darlene in season 7 (I think it was) when she was dating Jimmy was her "jump the shark" moment. As David said she became a "cold hearted bitch". The worst offender was Roseanne though. Wow. She started as a "tough" mom but by season 6 she became totally unreasonable. Iirc it was roughly around the time of Fisher beating up Jackie that the character really started to change.

Well David was their travel agent... And Roseanne did fake being Mrs. Habib. Lol.

She did become a punching bag you are right. When people are ambitious and nerdy and popular they tend to be mocked by those who aren't haha. But, I do think she really only turned into an ungrateful whiner at the end of season 4 when she left. When she blames Dan for the bike shop closing is cringeworthy. The first bit was tolerable, but the second half when she starts with "come on mother, you know it but I'm the only one with the guts to say it. You blew it Dad, you blew it big time." That was way over the line in my opinion and totally unecessary. The point had been made. Part of the blame for her behaviour has to go to the fact that they/Lecy were purposely trying to write her character out of the show so they amped it up a bit.

I'm currently watching through season 9 and yikes. I'm sure we would all like to pretend it didn't exist but it's still fun to talk about... So please post what bugged you and why. I am currently watching the "Miracle" episode where Darlene has the baby. The original Landford Dr seemed AWESOME. He was portrayed as compassionate, intelligent and articulate. Then Roseanne totally insulted him when she requested all the specialists. There is a professional way to ask for a second opinion and an unprofessional way. The way she handled was very inappropriate in my opinion. I've got more complaints but thought I'd leave some for the rest of you lol.

The way Becky responded was in character though I thought. Becky was the "good", eager to please first child. If Becky went into a funk instead, it would have been counter character for Darlene to start doing the chores and pulling up the slack for her.

I'm of two minds on this... Becky during the original Lecy years was awesome. Season 8 Becky when Lecy returned was terrible. She wasn't the same character. Seemed much more deflated. The couple scenes she has with Darlene didn't have the sizzle of the early years. It was more like Lecy Goranson came back to the show, but not her Becky. I feel Sarah Chalke's Becky was much more gritty than Lecy's return Becky. Enjoyed her squabbles with Darlene.

I am a long time Roseanne fan but have ultra low expectations for this revival. From what I've read, Roseanne wants it to be political satire like season 9 tried to be. The show was best when it was about the Conner family. I can't see how they could pull off an interesting arc like that in only 8 episodes. Seasons 1-7 you got the impression they all got together and decided on where the show was going through that season. Like they planned it out. Seasons 8-9 felt like they were just "bottle" episodes. You could watch them all out of order and it wouldn't matter. There was no common thread.