Jeebus Cripes

Oh, I was around during his Bill & Ted years, so I hear ya loud and clear there. I honestly can't remember the last movie I saw him in... Never seen the John Wick films. OK, I just looked up his resume on IMDb, and the last film I saw him in was The Lake House. I'm definitely missing out on this career resurgence he's having. Ah, well. Like the poster upthread said, keep him away from any part with an accent, and it shouldn't be a total train wreck. I still LOL whenever I watch him in Bram Stoker's Dracula. Good times. I'm honestly kind of startled by Feige's statement that they consider him every time a film comes up. Really? @Danny Franks, out of curiosity because of your avatar, who would you cast as Gambit?

I agree about Rocket and Tony. Rhodey's cheez wiz line was harsh. All in all, I'm not mad about Thor's storyline here. Even an alien with god-like power can have depression and fall apart. A good reminder that no one is perfect. They could have handled it with more finesse to be sure, but Hemsworth was fantastic. I considered that to be the least mean of them all because of this very reason.

Please just keep Reeves away from Gambit (keep Tatum far, far away as well). I remember those Keanu/Gambit rumors a while back, and my soul can't handle another poorly casted X-Men film. I will make an exception for Corsair. I could see him in that role. It's not that I dislike Keanu, but he's not exactly a master thespian who can handle just any role.

I almost always find Lee Pace compelling and very charismatic, but his Ronan did nothing for me at all. Well, not entirely true, he made me cringe a little. His acting was... not great here.

My takeaway from that line was that Al wasn't gonna be a hypocrite and start praying to God right at the end.

Eh, I'll wait to hear from fans what these clips are. I may be your bitch, Marvel, but I ain't made of money. Also, Avatar sucks. That is all.

Lee Pace would have made for a far better Namor than Ronan.

Y'all are scaring a bitch... I can't pretend to understand the business side of things, but damn it to hell, if I lose Tom Holland as Spidey, I will revolt!

I was completely enthralled with all of Tony/Nebula. From the finger football, to the touching moments when she's caring for him. Made me like Nebula 100x more, and I already thought she was awesome. I could have done with some tighter editing on scenes that dragged on; The picture joke with Hulk & Scott was entirely too long and became increasingly less funny and just plain awkward. Less of that stuff, more quality moments like Tony & Nebula. And ya know, if one of those moments could've involved Steve & Bucky, that would have been just SWELL. I remember speculating before the film came out that we would probably see Bill helping out with the Quantum Realm stuff, and I also thought Wong would be around helping out with the Infinity Stones knowledge.

Well, I'm gonna be honest, there was maybe a 5% chance of me watching it. I would have needed some major praise to seriously consider going through with it. I've never even once in my life thought, "Hey, I really need a Venom solo film to happen!" Also, Tom Hardy doesn't really do it for me.

Certainly would have made for an interesting encounter. You know, I could have used some more Tony and Steve interaction in Endgame. When they both went back to the 70s to get the tesseract, I felt a little let down that they went off and did their own thing, and that was that. Yeah, I know there were time constraints and the plot needed to move along, but I always enjoy the quiet moments of dialogue between the team (CA: The Winter Soldier was excellent at this with Steve/Nat & Steve/Sam). Some sort of an actual conversation between these two, one-on-one, would have hit the spot for me.

Is Venom worth my time at all? The previews looked laughably bad to me. Should I actually watch this movie?

I always found it bizarre that in a franchise about super powered beings, they elected to not have her be one of them.

She's been a skrull since after The Winter Soldier. Ya know, the cuddly, friendly variety from Captain Marvel. That explains all those questionable hair styles. RealNat was captured by Hydra off-screen after she walked out of that hearing at the end. She finally got that super soldier serum. 😉

I got the impression that the decision to kill Nat was sort of last minute, as they initially wanted Clint to die. I imagine they dropped the surrogate plot early on.

Oh, I didn't hear about that before now. Interesting.

I like odd relationships, too. Nat/Bruce didn't do it for me, though. Surrogate mother?

Cue the negators coming in to tell you that she's just acting upset! It's all part of the plan to keep her husband's identity as Steve Rogers a secret, I tell ya! She fooled us all, didn't she? That clever gal. 🙄

I believe she said Steve freed him from behind enemy lines. There's was an uncut version of her interview on YouTube, if anyone is interested. It might still be there.

I think you're assigning too much creative control to the writers here. They were hired to write this story, and there are directives they have to follow. It's not the same as someone like Quentin Tarantino, who writes and directs his own material . Even Joss Whedon had to make changes to his scripts to fall in line with what Marvel wanted. What I'm saying is that somewhere along the way, the writers and the directors/producers were no longer on the same page. That's an embarrassing oversight, but it seems to be what happened here.

What it comes to, in mind at least, is that Feige and the Russo bros are responsible for the overall vision of this movie. They told the screenwriters the major plot points they wanted to happen, and they filled in the blanks. Now, it may very well be that the writers interpretation of how time travel works is not in line with what the Russo bros believe. At the end of the day, though, the directors and producers trump the writers. If the Russo's are telling me Steve lived in an alternate timeline, then I'm accepting that. And in spite of what you keep stating, the film does support alternate timelines.

Headcanon accepted. You deserve a raise and a promotion for this theory! I can now sleep soundly. I will hear of nothing else from here on. Changing the past is what creates the alternate timeline. You can't affect the outcome of your present by going into the past and changing things. When Loki escapes with the Tesseract, he is now in an alternate timeline. The Loki that we saw die in Infinity War is very much dead now, but there is another Loki running around very much alive. Bruce never says anything about not being able to create an alternate timeline, only that you can't change your own.

You have no idea how many times that line gets used in my day-to-day speech. Between Deadwood and Spartacus, my vocabulary is astonishingly foul.