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The ugly bridesmaid dress from Odd Mom Out, as hideous as it was, is beautiful in comparison to the jacked-up Mummy Halloween costume that Carole was wearing. Someone upthread mentioned it looked like the wedding dress rags that Dickens' Miss Havisham would wear, and they were 100% right!

I agree - I think Jules looks the best of all of them. The dress is perfect for her and for the Reunion - not too overly done, just a perfect LBD cocktail dress with a just enough bling to make it interesting. Plus, I think Jules is doing well since she and her little shit of a husband separated. Her face appears fuller, and she looks healthier, overall. Makeup and hair were en pointe, as well. Wish I could afford that dress - I would wear it to death!! :-)

When, after Bethenny called her boyfriend's "daughter" (still not buying that one, though), and Carole piped up with "A daughter never goes against her mother", all I could think was that Carole doesn't know shit about this. First, as Luann mentioned last season (in not such a nice way), Carole does not have children, so she cannot begin to understand the complexities of a parent/child relationship, and how it can go wrong at times. Second, and probably more important - dosen't her "bff", Bethenny, go against her own mother at any opportunity and has no problem with trashing and bashing her?

I think that Luann, deep down inside, is actually pretty vulnerable, so she is not exactly the best in the heat of a name-calling, nasty tirade toward her. She gets flustered and tries to out-think the other person, when she isn't the antagonist. Not only that, but I also think that while she makes no excuses for her love life, and is honest about it, but she doesn't appreciate being forced to admit anything when she doesn't want to. I also think that she feels she needs to "protect" the men in her life, or at the very least, maintain their privacy.

And, wasn't Bethenny offended because Kelly called her a "ho-bag" because SHE had participated in one night stand sex? My, how the tune changes when song isn't about the singer.... Well, if tonight is any indication, apparently, she is willing to sell out her boyfriend's daughter!

Not only that, but I love how, in Kristen's words - "a little making out" all of sudden, according to Bethenny and Carole, becomes Luann sleeping with the "name unknown" Scot, and from there, has proceeded to bed-hop all over Manhattan. Luann admitted to sitting, talking and making out with the guy. I still don't know why they continue to bring it up this season....let it the fuck go, already.

It's amazing that Andy even allowed that. Didn't he rip into other housewives, and Mike from Shahs of Sunset for using their phones during reunion taping? But, I forgot - Andy also has a room in the Bethenny Ass Hotel. She doesn't need Skinny Girl anymore - she should just charge rent to those occupying a space up her butt.

I said the same thing upthread. I think Brianna is enjoying her move away from Ryan and Oklahoma.

I was wondering if this whole Palm Springs weekend is another attempt of Vicki's for a redemption arc. For some reason, spending a weekend in Palm Springs with her family, including her grandsons, does not strike me as the way Vicki would REALLY want to celebrate her birthday. Not much in the way of "whooping it up" there....not with the grandkids running around. The Merv Griffin Estate looked amazing, though, and I would love to spend a weekend there, with my friends. Michael really looked like that was the LAST place on earth he wanted to be. Also, when Ryan walked in, was that a look of disbelief on Brianna's face, or a look that said "Oh shit, what is HE doing here?" - I got a feeling it was more of the latter. To me, she didn't seem overly thrilled to see him walking in, until she realized that the camera was on her.

I noticed that too, except, I thought Jacqueline's inability to move anything but her jaw reminded me of a ventriliquist's dummy, and they totally creep me out!!

Me too....there is something about him that just makes me smile! :-)

Ramona's cheeks look fuller (filler, maybe ?), so much so that, to me, it makes her eyes look much smaller.

Bethenny wouldn't have been able to have that donated. Something tells me that either all that jewelry was donated by the various jewelry stores, or Bethenny, herself, re-gifted the stuff to the pinata. She said it was $10,000.00 worth of jewelry with mostly "high-end" costume jewelry and a few really, really good pieces. Could these items have been gifts that Bethenny received, or things she purchased for herself over the years and now didn't want anymore? Maybe she just raided that safe in her closet that Dorinda was drooling over!

I wish we knew what that fight between Luann and Tom was about. Also, first, Luann said that she and Tom were at the Regency, then I think she kind of backtracked. I wonder if maybe they were at the Regency and that woman from Tom's past was there, as well, trying to get her "clutches" into Tom while he was there with Luann? Could they have possibly had a fight over that? Tom was only a few days/week into his engagement - not so easy to change his flirtatious ways in that short amount of time. If the woman is from Tom's past, chances are maybe she didn't know he was engaged, and maybe Tom didn't jump up and down, squealing like a tweenager, and shove Luann's ringed finger in the woman's face. I'm just speculating here, but perhaps that is what caused the whole thing. Luann may have gotten jealous, they had a fight - she goes home, he stays (or goes to the Regency, depending on the version of the story) - he has a few more drinks (or a lot of drinks) with that woman, and they have a few flirty smooches at the bar. He regrets his behavior and hightails it out of there, leaving the bunny with the check. So now, Luann is feeling as if she is the one who drove him into this situation because she was jealous and fought with him. I know that's the wrong way to feel, but Luann does seem to forgive a man's bad behavior in a relationship much more than a woman's. Not excusing him in any way, but just wondering if this is how it could have possibly gone down. ETA: From the photo we saw, it didn't appear like they were liplocked for over an hour or however long Bethenny said it was. I'm sorry, I don't think anyone of a certain age, drunk or not, would be making out non-stop for over an hour while sitting directly at a bar. Maybe in a booth or table at the bar, but not right at the bar.

I guess that would happen once they start working on their pre-nups.

I saw the tears, as well. I'm not so hardened about Bethenny that I think she is completely without feelings or sympathy for someone else, but I do think that in most instances, she thinks about her and HER feelings first, and the person whom she is hurting second. We saw that with Jules - it wasn't about Jules and her eating disorders, it was about how Bethenny FELT about it, because of her own feelings. I'm thinking the latter, as well. As I've said, Bethenny knew, as soon as she saw Luann's reaction, that there was no going back from this, and that she would come out looking worse for it all. If Luann had shrugged her shoulders and said "So what?", Luann would have looked like the idiot, and Bethenny would have been the "caring" friend trying to protect Luann. If Luann had started yelling at Bethenny, not willing to believe it, or making up excuses, Bethenny again, would have looked like the better person. None of those scenarios played out, though. I think Bethenny was completely shocked and scared shitless about how Luann took the news.

That's an excellent point!! Why would the bartenders/managers have to remind Bethenny (aka - the makeout bunny) what SHE did while she was there. I just posted it before, but I am more than convinced now that Bethenny has a connnection with one of the bartenders at The Regency and he feeds her information.

Did you notice that Bethenny called Luann a whore again, when having her sushi lunch with Carole. She said at first, she didn't feel bad for Luann because she's a whore and you reap what you sow. Bethenny was totally stunned at Luann's reaction, and knew she was in deep shit at that point, but there was no going back. I am so glad that Luann reacted the way she did (although I was sad for Luann), if for no other reason that it made Bethenny squirm and knocked her off her self-appointed high horse (although I do think all that hand shaking was a bit of acting on Bethenny's part). Is it possible that Bethenny could have been a little bit afraid of the backlash that she is currently getting?

You know though, it was pretty low of Bethenny to call the bartenders and the manager of The Regency, pretending to be the other woman. I didn't understand her explanations - first, she said she called the bartenders {she knows the bartenders}, then she changed her story and said she called the manager. Now, I'm thinking that one of the bartenders is who sent the pictures to Bethenny, and he wouldn't sign the Bravo release for fear of losing his job, and any other subsequent bartending jobs in NY.

Didn't Luann defend Tom to Ramona when Ramona said that Luann took him away from another woman that he was on a date with? I don't think that Luann ever blames a guy for anything. I was also disappointed with her reasoning and explanations, but she's trying to save face and save her relationship on national television, and I think that is the best she could come up with.

Edited - double post - sorry! :-)

I'd love to be homeless at the Marmara hotel - it's gorgeous!

Oh, and Bethenny should never, ever, ever wear plunging necklines like that - she is usually en pointe with her clothes but that jumpsuit looks horrible on her, and her breasts look terrible.

$10,000.00 worth of jewelry......how many fucking times is Bethenny going to say it?? Jesus, woman - we all know the jewelry was probably donated, not purchased by you. Hearing her say "$10,000.00 worth of jewelry" over and over again reminded me of what's her name from RHOBH with her $25,000.00 sunglasses.

I've never been able to write David off because he has been shown to be very involved in his daughters lives...school trips, coaches, etc...., but I was still so happy to see him make his wife feel special & that he was so excited to make her feel special. I'm rooting for those two. I agree that if the production company and Andy see the huge backlash from the audience about Kelly that she will be a one and done (much like Carlton Gebbia). I also agree with you about Vicki, as we have seen she is really a fair-weather friend, at best. But, I think that Vicki would have been smarter if she were to be shown being outraged or upset with Kelly and her behavior, rather than laughing with her or agreeing with Kelly about it. It's very obvious that the other women do not want to film with Vicki except when absolutely necessary and Kelly is the only one willing to film with her, but I think that if Vicki could have had a couple of heart to heart talks with Kelly similar to Meghan's conversation with Kelly, it would have gone a long way with the other women. Right now, Kelly is on pretty much everyone's shit list because of her anger issues and nasty mouth. Vicki could have spoken to her and told her, in a nice way, that kind of behavior is not acceptable in any social situation. She could have become the mentor that Kelly wants. Vicki is the "OG of the OC" - she knows the ropes and knows what is acceptable and what is not. She didn't have to sit at that dinner with Kelly smirking over jalepeno martinis and toasting to "They hate us because they want to be us". I think when the other women see that, it's going to deepen the line already drawn in the sand between Kelly and Vicki and the other women. But, on the other hand, when has Vicki ever done anything smart for her own benefit? ;-)