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Does anyone else want to know exactly what happened during Irish Drinking Song and hopes we get to see the leaked outtake online at some point?

He is going to be working with criminal informants. The way his supervisor described it, there are some people who might be arrested, but in the long term it is better to let them out and allow them to be a source of information for the police department. Jamie is going to be one of the people deciding if this person has the potential to be a valuable informant/source of information. I feel like the new job is a machine designed to generate tension and conflict (especially within the family), and I'm looking forward to seeing where this goes. Jamie and Edie not being able to talk about work at home may be the single best thing for thier marriage. It will force them to talk about something other than work, and maybe develop a shared hobby or interest outside of work and being police officers. I was hoping someone on this message board would explain how they got to the daughter, because I feel like I missed something. I have no problem taking a dip in the shallow end of the pool from time to time. Jamie looks good in a suit, but I think I may like him better in the tight polo shirt. Has he always been wearing polo shirts that tight? It reminded me a bit of what Tom Selleck used to wear in the early seasons of Magnum P.I.

This is the absolute, perfect description of Georgie. I'm with you on Mandy going to Connie for help sooner. While Mandy may be proud and unwilling to accept "charity," Connie would find some way to make the arrangement acceptable to Mandy. Mandy would be able help in other ways even if she couldn't hold down a regular job and pay regular rent, she could do errands and help around the house. My guess is that Connie wants to keep the source of her money secret. A steady stream of money from an unknown source is difficult to explain.

Georgie was awesome. A few seasons ago, he was willing to put himself between Veronica and her father, when Veronica's father was closer to George's size. He is still the same guy. He can be stupid, and make bad decisions, but ultimately/overall he is a good and sweet kid. He is trying to do the right thing/the best he can for Mandy, because he realizes his role in the pregnancy situation. I could have done without Sheldon's storyline. I liked Mary's fantasy more than I thought I would. I really hope she keeps writing.

Yes, except that Mandy has made it very clear that for whatever reason, she is determined to keep the baby.

Something I was thinking about recently was that Sam and Al had completely different personalities, points of view, and life experiences. That made for great television because you'd have two different opinions and could understand why each thought or believed what they did, and it wasn't always about who was right and who was wrong. This time around, I'm not really getting that kind of vibe. It could be they only have time to deal with leap mission and they don't have time for the character's backstories. Even so, I still wish Ben and Addison's personalties were a bit better developed.

My guess is that it's a time issue. The original series had more minutes to tell the story and it was allowed to breathe. This time around, they only have enough time in the past for the leap mission, so almost anything not directly related to the leap is cut, which is a shame. This gets to one of my problems with the series. Both the leaper and the hologram are super serious people, and it doesn't really generate too many fun/interesting conversations.

Different movie, but similiar scenario: "Senator and Mrs. Blutarsky."

May I add, pretty please with sugar on top? YES! Addison and Ben are a bit of a soap opera romance, which isn't something I'm into. Give me bickering, bantering back and forth like Al and Sam, and I would be very happy. Ian had without question or doubt the best line of the episode with the remark you mentioned. Ian would be so much fun as the hologram. Ian would have some rather witty observations and comments which is something the show seriously needs. I liked seeing the mission change and Ben realize that he may have been wrong about what he thought about the mission. I hated that we didn't get to see more of Ben struggling to use the old paper/plastic map but we did get to see Ben realize than he and Addison are a couple.

If memory serves correct, they didn't prevent but the big thing, but the woman on the train becomes a lawyer, then a senator, and she becomes the swing vote for the funding.

The term PTSD existed and was in use during the late 1970s. The 1970s was when there was a big campaign to have the diagnosis officially recognized by mental health practictioners (especially having it included as an official diagnosis in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders also known as DSM, because then a whole bunch other things would be possible, (like the VA recognizing it as an official diagnosis/condition which would make it easier to get treatment covered or disability benefits).

I hadn't even thought of the generational difference between Sam and Al and the layer that added to the show. Al knew things from lived experience that he could tell Sam, but you do not have that at all in the current show. I had the same thought. I have a great episode idea for how it would work: The episode is set in the 1980s and have the guy living a double life. He has a job that requires him to stay closeted (which would be most professions in the 1980s), as well as a wife and family, but also secretly goes to gay bars (He tells his wife he is working late). There is some type of crime and he is the prime suspect. The problem is that his rock solid alibi (I was at a gay bar) gets him into potentially more trouble. And I just realized this plotline would probably take way too much time to do well in the current format. YES! This is one of the times where not having as much time in the past is a bit of a drag. Showing Ben struggling to complete his mission or adapt to daily life without the technology he has grown up or takes for granted as a modern adult would be fantastic. It's almost painful to think about the fact that we are not going to get those kinds of scenes.

And now I'm picturing Arnie Becker from L.A Law as her lawyer in the divorce case. I'm picturing him saying to his collegues or secretary: "I'm not going to try to sleep with her. I'd be too scared. She could have me killed or worse."

Maybe with his new job Jamie will get a Reagan whisperer like his siblings and father. He needs one and Edie doesn't count. Erin has Anthony, Danny has Baez, Frank has Baker, Garrett and Sid, but Jamie doesn't have one at work yet.

That's an excellent point. I hadn't thought about generational difference, but that is a highly plausible explanation for it. I think Sid would fit right in at dinner, beyond the initial awkwardness of the situation. Sid is very much like Danny or Henry, and came up through the ranks of the police force, so there's that shared bond. Plus he was Danny's boss at the start of the series, so there's some real history there. Baker is a bit of a mystery, because she is un underused/underdeveloped character, but it could work. Garrett at the dinner table is the potential for all kinds of fun. He is not afraid to stand up to Frank and say what he believes/what he thinks is best. It would need to be a long dinner scene, but Danny and Garrett going multiple rounds would be highly entertaining. There would have to be some discussion between Henry and Garrett about the relationship beteween the press/media and the police department and the ways that has changed since Henry's day. Just a quick FYI/future reference, I think that information that has not yet aired is a spoiler and the episode threads are supposed to be spoliler free for future episodes. You can discuss anything that happened in the episode, but use spoiler tags or post a link to the other thread, but do not reveal information about future episodes.

Those are some of my big problems with the new series as well. The older series dealt with serious issues, but overall it was a light drama, not a super serious show. This show completely lacks the humor and the light touch of the original series. I always thought Al's funny clothes were his wn form of personal revenge for having to wear uniforms at different points in his life. Once he could wear whatever he wanted, it was going to be the loudest most outrageous stuff out there. Sam and Al had very different personalities and world-views. Granted, it's still early for the new series, but we haven't really seen much of that yet. The scenes in the present day lab are killing the show. They only have 40 minutes to tell the story, and if they are spending 20 minutes of it in the lab, that means they only have 20 for the time travel storyline, which limits the kind of story they can tell and how they tell it. You are only going to get the big dramatic moments, when what was great about the original show were the fun little moments that were enjoyable but did not necessarily directly relate to moving the action of the week forward. Fashionwise, I would agree you. The 1950s looks different from the 1970s which also looks different from the 1990s, but I'm not sure the average person who isn't super into fashion and following trends would be able to tell the difference between everday fashion in 2000 and in 2020. Technology has changed dramatically (desktops, latops, the rise of cellphones and then smartphones, and tablets). There are issues that are more openly disccussed and conversations we are having now that we were not having 20 years ago, which is a form of progress. Based on the current climate, I do not think a network show would be willing to tackle serious issues in the way the original series did. It is much safer and more profitable for a new series to do something that will appeal to a broader group and sidestep the risk of getting the internet angry.

That makes more sense. I think Frank's comment that Roosevelt didn't have Uber was the one that confused me. I do understand what he was going for, and the way you explained it makes more sense. The idea is to be street level and go slightly outside the comfort zone or what they would normally see in their official capacity. I couldn't tell if Garrett was being serious or sarcastic with his line. Pat O'Brien in Angels with Dirty Faces is a similar character type that would have worked as well. Very clearly they were referencing an archetype that most of the (older veiwers) of the series would know, and there are not enough younger veiwers that they need to explain the reference, or they just figure that the younger viewers will look it up on google or wikipedia.

I can't decide if Garrett's comment "What Would Teddy Roosevelt Do" was stupid or brilliant. I still want to see Joe working an actual case and what he's like day to day on the job. We got close with this episode, but it isn't quite what I wanted. Frank's rules for the nighttime adventure/fact-finding mission/whatever you want to call it do not make sense. The subway and Uber did not exist while Roosevelt was govenor, but taxi cabs did. If the goal is to travel the way the common person did, than I can sort of understand the subway being an option, but then there needed to be a clearer explanation of why taxis were okay but Uber was not. Jack and Erin may be an interesting subplot that plays out this season. I'm hoping her run forces her/them to clarify and figure out what thier relationship is. It's always fun to see Jamie acting like Danny. I swear it happens once or twice a season. Erin should be used to it by now. Instead of the conversation about whether or not he's the quiet one, I would have had it go something like this, but worded better. Erin: So this your Danny moment for the quarter. Jamie: What? Erin: Once every few months you burst into my office upset about something with no regard for rules and laws like Danny, and then you calm down and remember everything you learned in law school, unlike Danny who will spend the next week bothering me about it. I love that the show totally owns that it has an older audience. I can't remember whether the reference at the end was to Pat O'Brien or Bing Crosby, but it was someone of that vintage, and the writers completely trusted that everyone in the audience would get the reference and they didn't need someone from the younger generation to ask who that was/explain the reference.

I would totally be on board for a spin-off about grown-up Missy, Georgie, and thier children. Georgie is not booksmart, but like Missy has the ability to read people. Based on what we have seen of Georgie in this series, knowing that adult Georgie has a sucessful chain of tire stores makes perfect sense. @ChitChat-Missy is popular at school, but I'm not sure how much she actually cares about that. If she had to give up her popularity to support her family, I think she'd do that. Of course all of the young teenage boys at the comic book are going to think she's cute. I wonder if that's part of the reason she was hired. She may not know everything about comics, but as long as she tell people where things are, what they have in stock, when things are coming in, and what they can order, she'll probably be fine. (As bad as Wolowitz was in the early years, I cannot imagine him hitting on a girl that he knew was very clearly underage). On the other hand, there are plenty of sports where height doesn't really matter. Missy was a star on the baseball team, and that's not a sport that demands height to do well. In terms of George, sports, and his kids, I always thought that it was really awesome that he totally and fully sported Missy being on the baseball team. He never had a problem with the fact that his daughter wanted to play a sport, not just be a cheerleader.

In the movie, he is not exactly a grand humanitarian. He claims the day off is for Cameron's sake because he thinks his best friend really needs a day off, but I think the real reason is that he didn't feel like going to school that day and wanted one last grand skip-day adventure before he graduated. Ferris would be the best and worst person to be friends with. You would get to go on all these crazy adventures and be part of all these wild schemes, but he would also be using you for your connections and whatever you had to offer.

It's street smarts/emotional intelligence vs. book smarts. Some situations call for one, some situations call for the other. That sounds like Georgie to me. He has no problem being involved in something illegal or a scam. His only issue was that it was too expensive/impractical. I am curious to see where this goes. Will Missy still be popular even though she's working at a comic book store (which is not where the cool kids hang out)? Sheldon is protective of his sister and his family in general. If someone is mean to Missy because she's a girl working in a comic book shop, Sheldon is going to give her a crash course and make sure she knows everything important and can win an argument. I didn't notice that, but I love it and it totally works for me. Once he got over the shock, Georgie was more than willing to "step up and do the right thing." Despite what Mandy wants, Georgie wants to be helpful, involved, and part of the kid's life every step of the way. Right now, both parents are kind of distracted so unless Sheldon or Missy gets in real trouble at school or with the law, they can probably get away with quite a bit. Sheldon isn't going to the blow the whistle on her. He wants to use her employee discount. I can see him giving her a list and the money to pay for the comic books.

I agree. All the different groups/cliques at school liked him, so I can see that skill or ability helping him in adulthood. He can convince or talk anyone into almost anything. I'm picturing him doing well in some type of sales or advertising.

Thank you for this comment. It's great to know that someone else had the same thought. I was wondering if I was reading something into that wasn't there at all. My guess, is that there is an event/festival the next day and since people do travel to see it, it would probably be explained by campers. Even if someone else saw it and reported it to Gorn, he would probably have said it was people arriving and camping out and to ignore it.

I didn't realize it until "Somebody Up There Likes Ben" (1.3) that we don't have a voice-over and how much I missed that. We don't get to hear Ben's thoughts about who he leaped into and his thoughts on the era (whether or not he remembers it). If I remember correctly, Sam always had a strong hatred of the 1970s. I guess they didn't have time for it because they only have 42 minutes and they are splitting the show between the leap and the team back at project HQ.

Same here. It looked so much bigger than I remembered. I also loved that the new handlink made some old school Ziggy sounds. I hadn't realized how much I missed it. I was going to post this exact comment. It makes me feel better that someone else had the same thought. I am now convinced after this episode Ian should be the hologram instead of Addison. The character is funnier, has better lines, and would be bring humor that is sorely missing. I am not enjoying the tragic love story. I want bickering, bantering, and fun retro stuff. It doesn't seem like the new series is doing that.