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I think Jo knows exactly who and how Kail is, and is satisfied with the (current) status quo. He gets all the time he wants at the moment. If he moved for more custody now, it would be disruptive at a time his son most needs him, and stability. So, like a good parent, he's putting his own "wants" on hold to focus on Issac's "needs." If/when Kail's next whim tries to minimize Jo's role or change things, then and only then will he make that move, and likely win because he'll have proof and a track record of having defacto 50/50 custody, plus a new location that supports it. No reason for him to rock the boat before then. That said, I'm not mad at Vee for her stance in all this. She's ride or die for Jo and I'm the same way for my husband. I'll be mad at other people on his behalf when I think they're taking advantage or treating him badly, and he'll tell me to chill, he's got it. Which is probably why he's in politics and I'm not, lol. I have no poker face and no patience for putting up with bullshit regardless of the end result. I got you, girl!

May I sit here? I never watch any of these talent-type shows, save for an episode or clip that gets attention for something other than the show. I intend to google the YouTube clips of Heather each week, because I too love her. Inexplicably. I only hope to catch a glimpse of Lord Tubbington raising a fondue stick and cheering her on. I know he's out there somewhere, having kicked his Ecstasy addiction.

Best part? When he got out, not only did nobody move, but the brother on the right actually dropped his jacket and did the step back that precedes the "let's go" throw. Wasn't nobody skeered of his ass. All Vee said was one thing and Kail was simmering and tearing up. I was glad she said "So everyone else can have an opinion and I can't?" Kail: "Yes." Way to own your hypocrisy. I only wish Vee had followed up with "Just one question: when Javi made comments about Joe and the custody arrangements, did you feel the same way? I'm Joe's fiance and the mother of his child, so what's the difference?" And stuck her ass trying to explain. Vee should have responded "Weren't you listening? I just answered told you." DUH. I was searching for the date of this reunion to figure Kail's "baby fever" groundwork commencement and found this. She's not even trying, dammit. REUNION 2016 Exact same outfit. But then, neither is Kail. Yass! I always hope Larry is giving that speech behind the scenes. I was annoyed that Jo wasn't backing Vee up, but at the same time I realize he knows his son's welper. And if he had (rightly so) joined in with Vee, it would have been some mess with Kail. His one "outburst" though was real - "What do some lines on a map matter? Fuck a map. Fuck what's legal in some state." But hell, maybe Jo is onto something - move to Delaware, establish minimum residency, and then - bam! Sue for 50/50. So let Vee have her say, Jo maintains reasonable, and when the time is right, strike for that 50/50. And until then, keep the peace. And BTW, back that shit up [Dorinda]. If custody STARTS at 50/50 in Delaware, what's up with the whole "I didn't want to give you 50/50 but I thought about it and I made peace with it" crap she was giving Javi? She didn't do shit then!

I'm sure he spoke like a man when she met him at the gas station (if their story is true.) But fast realized morphing into Mr. Putty, mirroring her mannerisms and everything she says/does. "Is this fun?" "SO FUN!" "Are you excited?" "SO EXCITED!" "I'm so happy we're --" "GONNA BE MARRIED!" was the way to go. I think that's what Chelsea loves about him most, TBH. That he's there and willing to be whatever she wants - especially after re-watching those reunion clips where she's constantly anxious and crying about all she wants is a family and for Adam to not cheat on her a 7th(!) time. He's a life-sized husband and father figure she's playing house with. When that baby comes and is crying all night, the cutesy-wootsy shit will fly right out of the window because he doesn't come with a shut down key. If Cole ever decides he's tired of playing house and tries being married for real, I wonder how starry-eyed Chelsea will remain. Kind of hard to be up in arms when you pushed that shit from the moment you met him. Now that Aubree is old enough to realize and speak up y'all gotta backpedal. I think Mary didn't get the memo that they weren't going hard on the "Cole is your new daddy" stuff on camera anymore, despite what Chelsea claims. And probably isn't that good on picking up on bitchy daughter clues either, since Chelsea exhibits bitchy daughter speak to her almost exclusively. Now there's a story I'd love to be told; why even after all these years she continues to talk to her mother like a petulant 14 year old. GAWD MOM YOU ARE SO EMBARRASSING! JUST DO FAVORS FOR ME AND DON'T SPEAK.

'Eh ... I shed no tears for "poor Javi." I think he resents that he joined the military - with her urging no doubt (he's a grown man, she can't "make" him do anything - facts) and spent nearly a year away for nothing. I think he sees all of this as his chance to pay Kail back for her not wanting to have another kid with him and not wanting to stay married after all that. I believe Kail is a bitch of the highest order, and I also believe Javi is a sneaky, petty controlling and yes, abusive fucker (telling someone you're not getting out of their living space, you'll come in without knocking if you want, you'll break out windows - that's psychological abuse, I don't care who is doing it. Your landlord may own your rental space, doesn't give him the right to do ANY of that while you're in it.) I don't believe for one second any of this is because Kail promised him they'd be together and jerked the wide-eyed boy around. Boy, bye. I'm not even in your relationship and *I* witnessed enough calls where you couldn't have possibly thought she was home waiting for you with hearts in her eyes. And I saw enough of both of your social media to KNOW y'all were doing shit to get at each other. And towards the end it was perfectly clear that shit was deaded. Nothing she does is making him do what he's doing now, because he's been this way since he hasn't gotten the wife he thought she would be. Javi is always grinning and smirking onscreen because he knows the camera time is his last time to truly fuck Kail but good. She wants it OFF SCREEN and so he's going to put it all out there just to stick it to her. Lincoln watching footage of him yelling "you spread your legs for some dude" someday be damned. The real underdog in all this is actually Kail, because her chickens have come home to roost. She's not going to be able to control this one like she has all the rest. Even at his worst Jo didn't RELISH going after Kail, it was always defensive. Javi has the taste of blood in his mouth and he's not giving an inch. If he wants to walk into her house, he'll do it. If he wants to smash some shit up, he'll do it. One could (almost) feel sorry for her. Not <---- this one, of course! But one, somewhere out there.

This to me illustrates the difference. In both cases Kandi wasn't simply telling their business, she was backing herself up by -finally- bringing the receipts to say "listen, cut the shit. I know this stuff because you've said it directly to me, now you're lying about it/me and you expect me to let that slide but I'm not anymore." I don't think there's any dispute that Kandi held her tongue for a long time before almost being forced to tell why she wasn't guilty of ignoring her best friend in her "time of need." And it wasn't until others added the hype and Porsha blew back on her "Kandi doesn't know my business, she shouldn't say I slept with Block, that's a lie" that Kandi again backed it up with "I didn't say that -- but if I HAD, I'd have been straight because you told me that to my face." Phaedra however wasn't defending herself by proving Kandi wrong by bringing up the 'trois as proof - she was simply adding to the gossip with her own tale (still to be determined as to whether or not it's true) and thinking she was getting away with it. That to me is the difference in these scenarios.

I agree with this part, and I think it's because Sandra is a known quantity and they've seen her other sides. Exactly. I agree with that. And they're being crazy hypocritical, because they know none of them ever wants to hear their name, even as a fake because it puts you on the radar at best, and at worst, it's really true and they're just telling YOU it's fake.

Dang! I aintevenno Survivor was starting up tonight! Thank goodness for series set ups. This season is an embarrassment of riches for me with Ozzy, Sandra, Cerie, Jeff, Mikayla ... and I was not ready to face a season promising classic Sandra quips only to have it slip through my fingers like Ozzy's million. But the magic is there, somehow it's Tony! And there it is. "That's what you get for plotting against me. Take your ass home." Yes! Tony out, and the queen stays queen. I can't choose a team yet because everyone is all mixed up, but I guess if it comes down to it, there are more faves on Mana. And come on, SD-T is legendary, so gotta go with her. Unless she targets Mikayla - or at least earlier than necessary. Then it's off with her head.

Best. Reaction. Ever.

See: Teresa Guidice, Tamara Judge, Vicki Gunvalson, Brandi Glanville, Kyle & Kim Richards, Lisa Rinna, Joe Gorga and Guidice, Adriana & Joanna (Miami), etc. Every one of those went beyond the public screaming to some degree of glass breaking, physical pushing, slapping or outright brawling. Everyone of them living far from any "ghetto." So I think it's time we retire that as shorthand for bad behavior, et al. Everyone should own it, not just poor black and brown folks. It's lazy and wrong. Not trying to pick on you, you're far from alone in using it. Just pointing it out when I see it.

Yeah, that's not a thing. There's nothing more low rent and stupid than a Jersey housewife, but okay. This describes some point in every season of every franchise. Bad behavior exists everywhere, even in the 90210, but eff that, kick the poorest some more by acting like they own the copyright.

I don't know about that. A host of her particular brand couldn't even maintain on a real daytime show she was a PRODUCER on, with some actual talent. I can't imagine Porsha with nothing going for her but the ability to bare some body part that should be covered and who comes with a high insurance tag is going to be more successful. Their segments on Dish Nation is camera footage of an Atlanta radio station, populated with convicted felons and felons-in-waiting, showing on B-list local cable TV channels. I think she's peaked. Ahhhhahahahahahahahahahahahahaha .... whoo! *wipes tears* Gold, Jerry, gold! Why is the math always RHoNJ+RHoOC = trashy, RHoA = ghetto? Don't forget Lauren's basic confirmation that she admitted it during their conversation: "So how did we get from 'I kissed a girl and I liked it,' to all this?" and the last talking head where she ended up at "So what if I did?" Exactly, dumbass - that's everyone's point. Just admit that instead of doing all this bullshit deflection? Or, better yet, STFU about Kandi and have her keep your secret forever? She didn't say a word about it for 3 years, no reason she was going to for the next 3, but for your big mouth.

Dang, Vee just laid that shit out. She ain't never lied, tho ... I feel Jo, caught between a rock and a hard place. Tried to keep the relationship with Isaac and Javi intact, spoke to Javi like a man and said to keep the drama away from his son. Only to have Javi pull that stupid shit. While Kail did bulldoze Jo into it, you could see he grudgingly agreed, however reluctantly, just because he couldn't predict either what kind of fuckery Javi might pull next. Dude forced his hand. In his right mind, sure, Javi treats Isaac great. But in his angry, vengeful pissed at Kail mind? He does dumb shit to get at her first, and thinks of the kids second. Like, I'm an adult and I'd have been freaked the fuck out by him popping out of the fucking basement! What the hell?? You know damned well he was trying to catch someone there, or he'd have knocked on the door. Whether you still own the house or not, you returned the keys and agreed you don't live there anymore, that shit's not cool. And he stumbled all over his excuse for coming in through the basement to his boys "I hopped the fence because her car was in the garage so I didn't know she was home." No lights on? Can't see anyone through the window? GTFOH! And I still haven't forgotten his "No, you take him to Jo's, that's your son." Mmkay Javi. You might not be full out psycho but you're an immature ass who can't be counted on to be a grown up for the kids. So in the end, while it might hurt Isaac a little bit, he's lived without him on a daily basis and is likely used to it. So supervised visits until y'all grow the fuck up. In summary, Vee for the win.

:::flatlined::: I'll take "always was" for $200, Alex. Yep. Literal LOL! Todd2 has clearly been taking his reality significant other lessons from Tamra's husband Eddie. Shit's going down? Eddie's eating up.

I know it's common to equate the two, I agree the politics of the terms are very different. I also agree that people like Kail shouldn't have a say in it. I just think if it's all good to her, why not just use it as liberally when being filmed? I'll answer my own question on that. :) As someone who raised a gay son and knew it (like, at 4-5 years old) long before he ever said it, I have long held an opinion on Isaac and Bentley. I feel Isaac might fare better in general than most of the kids, but I think all their parents would be accepting. Their communities, not so much. ToodyWoody: it was posted earlier I think, here's your link: http://www.theashleysrealityroundup.com/2017/03/01/teen-mom-2-exclusive-inside-kail-lowry-javi-marroquins-nasty-court-hearing-yesterday-heres-what-went-down/

I was ready to write you off for this: Snoop and Martha's show is so fucking cool! I love it. I want to hang with him, cook with him, rap with him But this saved you: He loves to say shit about my old school music (70s funk, disco, R&B) but he loves "Flashlight". That's our song to dance to I'm mad at these rappers and comedians (I know it goes back a long ways) who so called "reclaimed" the word and caused all this confusion. a) No, you didn't. b) Yes, you sound like dumbasses calling yourselves something so foul. c) No, nobody else can give you a pass on using the word, and if you get your ass kicked believing them, that's your bad. Got perfectly good white folks out here pausing at songs, not knowing whether they should sing lyrics, and potentially getting beat down and for what? Just a shame, is what it is.

Yeah ... I'm gonna go ahead and call bullshit on that. I always wonder why other people are so pressed to say it, they invent reasons why it's not exactly what it is. Whenever I hear that argument, I'm always DYING for a non-black person to yell out the word while standing on 125th, then (try and) make that distinction explaining how it's not the same. LOL.

Yeah ... sorry, y'all. I only meant my great-grandmother used the saying also. I realized after the fact that the placement could make one think I meant ZNH was a relative (other than in the "we're all related AA" way). My bad!

Does any language have as many funny slang words as Spanish? Veramente! I mean Italian has tons, but you don't get to hear it as much as you do Spanish. Sorry, off topic. Colorstruck = this one belongs to us. Can't date exactly how far back it goes, but at least the early 1900s, based on Zora Neale Hurston's novel Color Struck. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_Struck. (And my great-grandmother.) And I agree, as it refers to Javi. I think it's beyond a preference, I think it goes into Snowflake/Trophy territory.

:::some people want it all, but I don't ... want nothin' at all, if it ain't you(r posts) bayybaay!::: No worries, Girl. "And I am telling you...I'm not going!" I am all in for the long haul. I gave up too many trashy TV shows along the way. Now in the era of Tonald Drump, I'm left with few things left to watch because my usual cable news line up ain't gonna be it. Forget RHOA ... sheeeiit... I may have to bring NJ back on, and maybe some BBWLA back into the rotation for good measure. Oh girl, you ain't know? Yeah. Read at home, or keep a list of excuses on a post it at your desk. Rotate as needed. See, this is my problem. I worry about the wrong things. The focus here should be this belting performance, and yet I can do nothing but try and figure out what the hell is happening on the ceiling. Is it a bad paint job? Water damage? Is it the kitchen below the bathroom, or the basement? Why is it so low? WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE??? I think Kandi's main objection to all that was Phaedra including her in it, vis-a-vis Kandi being late/short with Todd's allowance. Love it. Love the bag, love the shoes, love everything. Phaedra will never live down trying to change HER DOCTOR'S interpretation of reality with her "different doctors have said I'm 4 months." Bish, you crowning.

Hahahahaha!! *slaps knee* Good one!

I think the embarrassment comes from feeling like there's something wrong with you that you have so much loss in your life. And also you feel like you're the downer who is always like, hey, guess who died this time. Like, it's life, but it weirds some people out. Makes no sense, but it's real. I think that's why. Bravo needs to stop trying to make Hadids happen. Because they missed the boat on Gigianddauddaones. Hate her.

Mmm hmm! [Fakedra southern belle murmur] All this, but especially the bolded section. :::pulling up my chair::: Ironically (because I never talk to him about the show) I said almost exactly that to my husband while watching last night - for whatever you want to call real, Kandi (and Cynthia) is it. He just happened to be passing by a Kandi TH and commented "Isn't she still rich? Why is she on this show"? 'Cause he won't watch na'an Housewife episode but he'll watch the hell out of some Unsung.) The only hands-on work she likes doing is stirring the shit. Hahahahaha!!! Is it close to reunion time already? Or will this be another 18 episode season. Either way, I'm looking forward to all the dirt being aired out in the coming weeks. I'm good with Kandi, but I'm here to hear her skeletons fall out too for my entertainment. I do love Reunion Kandi though. That's the best. Right after TH Girl Bye Expressions Kandi. Ha, they sound like Barbie versions. (But let me not give her any ideas for yet another product line tho!) Why, that's sheer poetry.

Army Wives. Get you some (7 seasons) while you wait for the show to come back.