Iris987

All of these people are filth. It comes down to degrees of awfulness for me. James is the worst. He is vicious, untalented, gaslighting the dolt he's in a relationship and a rapist (I'm not letting go of that one). Slightly under him is Jax who is sociopathic, dumb as shit, unfaithful and also gaslighting the dolt he's in a relationship with. You go down the list and at the bottom, for me, is Ariana. While she is smug, a buzzkill (though not this season) and kind of dull I like that she has always removed herself from the hive mind of these people. I think part of her issues at the moment stem from the fact that she started to care about what they thought. She was upset about Stassi and the airport in Florida whereas previously she wouldn't have given a crap that they were slagging her off. I also like that she's fairly loyal to her friends. She stayed friends with James and was the only one nice to Lala when she hooked up with her meal ticket. I wouldn't really want to be friends with her in real life. But amongst these people she's an absolute legend.

So..... That's Randall. I've seen pictures of him, obviously, but I was hoping he'd have some sort of charisma. Or a unique sense of humor or anything that would make Lala less craven. It's not the gold standard of trophy wifery (thank you Anna Nicole Smith) but still. He's just a schluby guy who has bought his way onto the "cool" kids table through his fiancée. Also, he's best mates with Jax. Which leads me to Jax. What a fucking asshole. I know this fight is bullshit and it's just a storyline but the way he is attacking Ariana as a part of it is vile. I think the problem is that Ariana has never liked him and never changed her opinion. She has always seen him for exactly what he is and someone like Jax can't handle that. I'm also getting really tired of the sexuality jabs. Dude, you were a bottom rung Florida Rent Boy for years. At least Ariana isn't using her attraction to women to finance chunky sweater purchases. Pipe down.

"That's your song choice? Very funny. What is it really? No, really? You're serious? Still the One is really the song? Oh, OK. That totally makes sense. Great song" Beau's horror at the song choice and then the desperate backtracking when Jax defended it was the first time I've genuinely liked him and the only laugh at loud moment of the episode. Screw Kristen trying to bat. The expression on Beau's face is the MVP of season.

Yeah, it's like choosing between two fatal diseases. Neither are going to make you very happy, but in very different ways. I think Teresa got the better deal though- at least her gross spouse has been exiled to another continent. I have no idea what Melissa sees in Joe Gorga. He's short. He's not that attractive. He's a misogynist. He's trying to turn their sons into misogynists. He's trying to narrow his daughter's options down to a single one- homemaker. And, to bring it back to the thread topic, he lies about flipping houses and then attempts to place all the blame onto his social media manager.

She is the worst. I think I dislike her more than anyone on the show, with the exception of the British Wanker WHO RAPED LALA. I don't care how she tries to rebrand herself as a southern belle who tamed the dumbest manwhore in the Northern hemisphere, to me she will always be the one who was a Sandy Hook Truther until she scrubbed her Twitter. You don't come back from that in my book. I agree that there is no way she wasn't aware of his beliefs. That pastor was not living quietly. I'm amazed that she didn't think it would be a problem on a show like this which tries to project an image of support to the LGBTQ community. I mean, I expect Jax to be too stupid to grasp how it would look but Brittany? I thought she was slightly more aware. Slightly.

My favorite Joe Gorga moment happened during the long, dark night of the Guidice/Gorga feud. He and Teresa are arguing at the gym about whose spouse is worse and Joe brings up the way Joe Guidice talks to her. He said something along the line of "I speak to her with respect! I don't call my wife a c***! I'll look her straight in the face and tell her "Bitch- shut up!" That is just quintessential Gorgatude to me.

Cruise episode? Which one was that?

Monena- You only bought me one hot dog! Larry- Yeah. Which you then proceeded to blow! That's a GREAT episode.

Huh. I liked the blind guy. The first episode of this show I ever saw was Larry and Richard being manipulated into moving his furniture. That scene led to one of my favourite arguments between them (although there have been many great ones after) when Richard tried to out grief him by bringing up his intimacy issues. Then Larry ordering him to "back up! back up!" in the apartment, leading to Richard yelling back "you're like a god damn lion tamer!" I remember thinking what is this show? I've been its bitch ever since.

I normally stay away from this forum because of the "no politics" rule and I don't trust myself. But can I just go on the record as saying Steve Bannon, Bill? Go fuck yourself.

All of these people are disgusting. It's such a train wreck, trashy show with many hilarious moments but if you actually examine the actions of these people.... Why do Max and the other one still have a job? Probably the same reason Stassi still has a job after her "Nazi chic" and metoo comments, the same reason Jax still has a job after his transphobic comments and general assholery on Twitter, the same reason the British wanker still has a job AFTER RAPING LALA. I don't care if she doesn't see it that way (she's not going to read my comments). He had sex with her when she was unconscious. They keep their job because the show makes money and the suits don't care.

My inner armchair psychologist tells me that Beau is super defensive about all the grief he gets about being thirsty and riding Stassi's coattails. I also think he feels emasculated. He made a point in the podcast of pointing out that his mother didn't raise him to feel threatened by his partners success but everything else he said pointed to the opposite. His most venomous comments related to a) him not having enough money to buy in, b) Stassi being spoiled and c) his input being either disregarded and then flat out ignored. Dude needs to either back off from barnacling himself to her and her career or suddenly start earning more than her. He's demonstrating that he may not be the modern, new age man he thinks he is.

Yeah, I'm laid up with a knee injury at the moment and have fallen down a Reddit wormhole. There is some interesting stuff on there which I didn't know ie Patrick apparently cheated on Stassi just after she quit the show and moved to New York for him and the only reason she stayed was because she couldn't face the "I told you so's" about another guy cheating after she'd raved about him. Anyway, some of the stuff listed above wasn't that bad- Beaus seems to be trying to be "entertaining", breaking into song and doing voices etc. The problem is a) he sucks at it and b) he isn't that entertaining. But some of his comments aren't passive aggressive. They are just aggressive. And while Beau is better than Jax (who isn't) and Patrick, I don't think Stassi's "good instincts" extend to the men in her life. She's drawn to douches.

@Marley - this is the link I read and then I was curious a d went and listened to her podcast. Hope it works as this is a new phone and I'm still working it out.

Stassi has boughten. Beau will be paying renton and utilities. He was sort of whining about it (and various other house issues) on her latest podcast. Which tells me Stassi might be hedging her real estate bets. The house is lovely though. Lots of character.

Poor Jeff. He DOES look like Harvey Weinstein. This was a nice start. Mocha Joe is one of my favourite characters from the Seinfeld season and I hope Larry opening a coffee shop out of spite will mean we see him again. I loved Susie yelling at him in the hospital "He's her significant other! You're her significant nothing!" I always love Susie's rage towards Larry. Welcome back.

Probably because someone in production realised she is the audio and visual equivalent of watching a ball of tumbleweed drift down a road. I watched that sneak peek and my, god. Girl is dull. I didn't love Kristen being placed way at the back in the cast photo, either. That's where people who appear in 2 episodes go. She belongs down the front a damn sight more than Ariana (another ball of tumbleweed).

I loved that too. Cohen is useless at reunions but him spitting out "I saw your audition tape!" went a long way to redeeming him in my eyes. That redemption is fluid, however, and if he brings her back next year he goes back in the doghouse. And did Vicki's dress spilt during her tantrum in her dressing room? Her ego was so dented by being forced to leave before the end that she Hulked out and tore it down the side? I hope watching the first 20 minutes is a never ending humiliation for her. You participate in a cancer scam, you get shamed for eternity, Gunvalson. Screw her.

I'm 50/50 on it. I watched them both as well and my initial reaction was "hell, no". The original has such a soft spot in my heart and they made that fatal "pilot episode of The Office" mistake of basically doing the original point for point. And that's not going to work because the original is so frigging good and it just looks bad in comparison. I like Jay Baruchel a lot but he'll never do as good a job of Sean as Patrick Brammall did. And the uncle obsessed with directions isn't as funny in this one either. That said, there were actually some bits I liked on rewatch- mainly with the parents. I'll definitely watch the rest- it's only 6 episodes and I'm hoping they move fully away from the Australian version. Which you should absolutely watch if you haven't already.

I don't know about that. Lala is an idiot for kicking off again and Randall makes my soul cringe (and then I feel bad for judging his looks) but Fofty is so petty. He could have ignored her or posted "shut the hell up" and been done with it. But he goes on and on. No insult is too small and no insult can be ignored. And he's still at it.

Yep. Frigging smoking. I just remember at the time thinking- jesus, hang up the phone. She can't hear you and is this something you want to be listening to? He was such a gorgeous bastard.

I miss Deacon. God, that man was smoking his first go round. All my friends watched Bold and the Beautiful in high school because it was only half an hour and ridiculous and when Deacon was going after Amber..... There was an episode where he had a daydream montage of him, Amber and the kid set to Bryan Adams 'Heaven' that was so hilarious that for years any event that occurred with us was referenced as 'pre- montage' and 'post- montage'. And that scene when he took Bridget's virginity was so appalling yet hilarious. Hmm, I may have an actor playing Deacon hang up.

I know. It's just.... why are we rehabilitating these people? On a brighter note, I watched it again today with the hubs and enjoyed it just as much. I always found I had to watch the series a couple of times to understand their way of speaking. I missed some gems on the first watch as well. Al and Jewel together again ' were you singing? I thought someone had stabbed a frog'- I just love him so much.

I loved it. After being burned by a number of revivals (Arrested Development) I was sceptical but I just sank back into it. It reminded me of why I'm still pissed off at HBO for cancelling it. One quibble- why on earth did they bring back Jeffrey Jones? Was his role that important in the original? All he really did this time was run the auction and all I could see was his child porn mug shot. Gross. On the other hand, Ian McShane is so fucking good. And I love that Hearst is still the ultimate 'stache twirler.

Absolutely. Andy is frigging useless at following up on interesting nuggets that get dropped at reunion shows. Jax is the same piece of crap that he's always been. Even if Ariana hadn't said that his phone number was linked to the account, it was clear it was true, Jax's "tell" when confronted with something he's done is squinting and repeating the accusation while his 8 brain cells try to formulate a response. It never ceases to amaze me that someone who lies 90% of the time is so shite at it.