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Don't you know Jackson is the only one that matters? Not Murphy, not Lilah. Which is very sad because Lilah and Murphy both seem to be so gentle and loving. Also, did anyone else hear Caryn say she was happy to come to the birthday party to see Jackson? Wtf? She didn't even mention Lilah!

Yeah, I don't understand why everyone is making such a big deal about the distance either. Growing up, my grandparents lived about 45 mins - 1 hr away and we saw them often.

This. Just like when Matt was visiting, Tori came in and plopped her on the kitchen counter and ignored her. She didn't even face her towards everyone else, she plopped her down with her back to everyone! No wonder the kid can't talk and cries when anyone comes near her. I won't be surprised if she ends off with serious social issues due to Zack and Tori's neglect.

I think Max is a douchebag. The breakup was probably more about the fight they had afterward and the things he said to Moriah then about him kissing the other girl (which he took no responsibility for, and blamed the other girl). I see him as controlling. I remember him saying some derogatory things about Moriah's clothing last season. He doesn't want Moriah showing any skin. Meanwhile, he's 'acting as a wingman' and flirting with another girl 🙄 Run, Moriah. Definite 🚩 there. Also, Lydia WTF?? There is definitely something off about that girl.

And Kody's ugly as a woman

I felt so bad for Ysabel when she was crying because she realized her dad didn't care enough to be there for her. All because he wasn't willing to be away from Robyn for a few weeks :(

And file for child support!

Oh FFS ... yes, she has some boxes in the garage, but you people are acting like she belongs on Hoarders! I think her house looks pretty good overall, much better than the farmhouse did. What about all of Matt's buildings full of stuff? But, OMG, Amy has a few boxes in her garage and she belongs on Hoarders! Lmmfao

When Jen told Will to give her the hatchet, Bill says "he can hold it". Way to undermine your wife Bill! No wonder Will doesn't listen to her.

The "parents" on this show refuse to actually parent. And, therein lies the problem. Poor kids. I can't help but feel bad for them. They are products of their environment.

The stupidity of everyone in this episode. I. just. can't. even. Alex asking Tyra what's wrong. Wtf do you think is wrong?? Tell your mom and grandma to shut the hell up. And why would Grandma ban Tyra from spending the night AFTER she got pregnant? Makes no sense. I wouldn't even bring my kid over there if I was Tyra. Max is in so much denial it isn't funny. The best thing his dad can do is get him off tv and get him into residential treatment asap. And Chloe is so naive to not see how troubled he really is. She thinks everything will be perfect when they get their own place. She is in for a rude awakening. Matthew is such a scumbag. He always looks nasty af but he thinks he's so hot. He had some nerve trying to blame Hailey for their fight. I wish she'd wake up and kick his weasly butt to the curb. He is definitely not worth crying over! Anthony may be the dumbest of them all. He really thinks he can tell he's the father by an ultrasound image? Really? That boy is dumber than a box of rocks. And Rilah's mom let him live there for 2 yrs then kicked him out when he turned 18? And now is letting him move back in? Wtf is wrong with all these parents? Is it any wonder these girls end off pregnant? At least no whiny ass, spoiled Mckayla on this episode. Although, it looks like she'll be back annoyingly as ever next week. Can't wait.

There is no way I'd let that whore get the farm after she stole her husband. I'd force a sale first. Amy is a way better person than I am lol.

Agreed. He wants to buy Amy out, take total control of the farm, sell it when HE'S ready and keep all the money for himself.

Forgive me, but this all seems so weird.

Oh, I'm not excusing Whitney for her unhealthy decisions which absolutely make her PCOS worse. I just don't think you can lump everybody with PCOS together in one category. For example, some women with PCOS can have children, some cannot. There are a lot of symptoms of PCOS besides weight gain. Hair loss, excess facial hair, adult acne, which those women don't exhibit, but of course I can't know the details of their diagnoses. My apologies for being presumptuous.

You really can't compare. Each individual person's case is different. It is not one size fits all, it ranges from very mild to very severe. I myself have moderate PCOS symptoms. I would say the women you mentioned probably have mild PCOS while Whitney's is very severe, based not just on her weight but her other symptoms as well.

Exactly. If they're not athletic, they probably didnt want to sit there in the heat watching either. If they are athletic, they probably would've wanted to join in. But to sit there and watch? I doubt they really wanted to but they had no choice. I would've been like "See you later honey, have fun at your softball game" and not dragged my kid out in the heat.

I never thought of that, but it seems likely. Kudos to the volunteer fire dept for saving her life. Of course, the whole thing could've been avoided had Kelly received proper prenatal care but you won't hear them say THAT on the show. Did I hear Kelly say it was a week before Gil named Addallee? Wonder if he named all the kids or just her. It's so strange to me that a man would choose the name without his wife's input, kind of like how Ben named Spurgeon. Is that common in their culture?

Did anyone else find it strange that TLC just happened to be there filming when Whitney threw her back out in the shower, or is it just me?

It DOES happen. My cousin was called a 'beached whale' while sunbathing in her own yard by someone driving by. I have been called names as well. And we are both MUCH smaller than Whitney. I have no doubt, even if the incidents on the show were staged, those kind of things DO happen to Whitney.

I believe he is Matt's friend who just happens to live near Zach. That's how I took it anyway.

I enjoyed seeing more about Alyssa and John. However, one thing bothered me. Why couldn't the women play softball with the guys? When my extended family gets together and sports are played, anybody who wants to participates. It just seemed so sexist, the "wimmim folk" sitting on the sidelines.

Ugh, another week of listening to Matt gripe about having to live in a "DW". It's starting to piss me off. What a snob. As for the remodel, the floors are nice, but the cabinets are hideous. Every time they show his "DW", I can't help but remember how be used to complain about Amy's housekeeping. Well, now Amy's house is cleaner than his. What do you have to say to that, Matt?

- Jeremy and Audrey need to face the facts on the finality of his parent's relationship. No, most divorced parents don't go on vacation together. Yours wouldn't either if they didn't have a tv show. It's business. - Speaking of Jer and Auj, they were lying through their teeth about being glad it wasn't them invited onstage at the luau. Yeah right, attention whores. - Matt actually made sense for once when he said it's easier to split money than land. - Molly and Jacob don't exist. - It was so sad to hear Amy say she'd probably be alone the rest of her life. She's not that old, and she has a lot to offer. Girl needs to start thinking positively!

Too funny, Kody was pissed! He said something like, "I don't know why you all are laughing about her being mouthy to me." Mouthy? That's a word I would use to describe my children, not my spouse! In fact, the whole thing reminded me of a parent chastising his children.