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I wish I could upvote this a million times. I want to watch housewives!

This is really perceptive! ( I adore this actor and he’s the only reason I may reconsider dumping the show entirely.)

This is by far the worst the show has ever been! I have tried repeatedly to stick with it since last fall and I am more disappointed than ever. Almost every couple is boring, mismatched, or offensive. None of the stories have momentum and eventually go out with a wimper in the most perplexing ways. Phyllis is probably the worst character in daytime and Nate and Victoria are unwatchable. It would take a writing miracle to redeem this mess.

Contrite, demure Chelsea is so boring. I thought the writers would do better at delivering a compelling story of depression and suicidal ideation, but instead we have … this. Unlock the doors and unscrew the shampoo bottles!

Good description. Noah is a sleepy mess and lacks the charisma to be a male lead. I think there is something lovable about Tucker. I occasionally laugh watching his scenes with Ashley because the actors seem like they are legit having a good time.

Well said! I just started watching again after a five month hiatus (possibly a mistake) and I can’t get over the monstrosity that is Billy Abbott. I hope Lily snaps soon and tosses him out. The writers have saddled her with this weirdo for far too long!

Thanks so much, Kitty. I am really liking the idea of Allie having some backbone (and I have always thought Lily was too good for Billy!). I watched a preview for this week’s upcoming shows — I am getting weird JT/Victoria flashbacks, but maybe I am misremembering the wrap up of that story.

i haven't watched this show in several weeks. it was my mother's favorite show and we would watch together and discuss. she has been very ill with cancer since spring and recently passed away. i want to try to get back into it. has the pace picked up at all since Tessa and Mariah's wedding? or do the stories continue to move at a snail's pace? i found it pretty frustrating for awhile, esp when Phylis was putting on ridiculous, campy performances to get under Diane's skin. (i wasn't sure where to post this. mods - if this is in wrong place, please move/remove!)

She is the worst. I can't imagine having to bake under strict time constraints while simultaneously fielding her inane questions. Who could concentrate with a manic preschool teacher in their face every five seconds? Poor Carolyn.

1994.

I think Bill Maher should get used to men in white coats. The teenage rebel shtick and paranoia is worrisome.

I really enjoy A Way With Words. From Wikipedia: A Way with Words is an American weekly public radio program discussing the use of language in everyday life, along with linguistics, lexicology and folk etymology from a pool of listener questions from weekly callers into the program, along with a weekly word game with quiz expert and comedian John Chaneski. Martha Barnett and Grant Barrett are excellent hosts -- really personable and funny. They answer all sorts of oddball questions like "What is the origin of good two shoes?" and "Who is the 'she' in 'she sells seashells by the seashore'?" and recommend books, websites for language lovers, etc.

I know what it is. I cringed when I thought that's what he meant. Ew.

This elimination seemed fair. Aaron’s look was a disaster and he knew it. Coral probably won’t (and shouldn’t) make it to the finale, especially if she continues to treat challenges as mere suggestions! If there is a neon colored ballgown challenge coming up, count on Coral to submit a pastel fringy frock. Sometimes it is hard to tell if she is a risk taker or risk averse or … just eccentric. Anyway, I won’t miss Aaron or his string of ho hum near-hits. (Why was he talking about pearl necklaces when Christian handed him a pearl purse?? I was waiting for cricket sounds or a clue from the editing team that, yes, something weirdly suggestive just happened.)

It definitely is for PR! Just not sure if that approach will work so well outside of reality tv.

Agreed. Yet, I think dressing the Housewives was a perfect opportunity to showcase his taste level (and still no win). Loved Luann's look and hated Shannon's! The hair pulled back was aging and the dress fit too snugly across the stomach. Coral's gamble was hilarious. Ignoring your client and pleasing yourself is an excellent business decision!

I must be the only one who thinks Aaron is supremely overrated. His stuff is kind of meek-chic? I don't know. The monochromatic fuzzy oatmeal look isn't offensive, but it's also not particularly thoughtful. It’s almost like couch potato Eileen Fisher. I also hate how he's always underlining his experience, spouting trivia (e.g. The Just Skating By episode) and casually offering up ungenerous critiques of the other designers. His interactions with his betters are ingratiating and cringey. His tirade last week was probbably worse that Meg’s meltdown week 1. Glad Octavio is gone. Even Ariana Grande retired the oversized sweatshirt look. Those awful pink shoes should share the accessories scrap pile with the hair curlers.

Kyrsten Sinema?

This is a valid point. People are flipping out on airplaines, screaming at cashiers, quitting their jobs in dramatic fashion, etc. Maybe these same people would be uncivil regardless, but pandemic-related stress and attendant bad behavior is no joke. That said, I loved the top four looks and would wear Kristina's in a second if it were available. Last week's glazed blue dress also looked great.

Maybe because it comes across as so immature and vicious it seems like it is more often?? Five min is hyperbole.

I really want to read this. I'm in the early chapters of Shakespeare in a Divided America by James Shapiro (2020) and I thought of Hamnet as a nice companion read. (I liked Maggie O'Farrell's The Vanishing Act of Esme Lennox alot and her writing style didn't seem too... mannered?... in that one).

Agreed. Tiff is a very clever, observant person and this isn't a great strategy. Slut shaming SB every five minutes, or when anyone is within earshot, is definitely beneath her. What is the implication? That because SB is unfaithful to Shelly it follows that eventually she would be disloyal to her fellow hgs? That she's too distracted by Ky to focus on the game? She doesn't explicitly say those things (or maybe she has and I've missed it!). I suppose the veto scandal has turned off a lot of people, so perhaps she could focus on SB's self-centeredness/poor sportsmanship instead of speculating about Shelly's hurt feelings. Until recently Tiff seemed like a shoe-in for America's Favorite Player, but I'm not so sure now. Dx's popularity is on the rise and a lot of viewers seem to like Claire. Sure, the grand prize is way more money and striving to be one of the BB greats doesn't mean playing a virtuous game necessarily. I just wish she'd tone down some of the petty stuff and talk real game.

Blake must feel great (wherever he is).

Right! It felt like she was intercepting the proposal.

Has there ever been a bachelorette with fewer guys interested in her?