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Her having a crisis of faith because she killed a supposed nun really made me laugh. I mean I know she has amnesia, but if she knows what a nun is, she should know that some of the most terrible people on this planet were nuns. I mean who ran the magdalen houses? Or for a more specific example take mother theresa, who didn't use the vast amount of money she collected to actually help the sick, because she thought suffering brought people closer to god. She ran death-houses.

They said they'd maintain data connection through the teather, when it was pointed out that there would be a problem with interference. The writers just forgot about it. The holo should have stoped working after the teather was cut. There being just enough of a connection for an uninterrupted holo but not for a bit of gravitational data? Buh humbug!

It seems with the one power they were able to achive some impressive stuff. But we also saw that they were still riding around on horses. So not quite steampunk yet. When episode 4 explained how men and women tapped into a different side of the power and only the male side was corrupted, I thought, wouldn't it be interesting if some men could tap into the female side and thus use it without going mad? Just because they are more in touch with their female side or some men even being trans? But I kinda doubt the authors will go there... sadge.

Thank you. Wow they couldn't have hidden that any deeper, could they? It's not under "bonus content", not on the extensive site explaining the world, but instead hidden two menus deep. I assume we can talk about them here since they are companion pieces to the episodes. The shorts show that the world wasn't as advanced as the skyscrapers might make it seem. Seemingly no more advanced than we see on the show today, if with bigger cities and more people. They also explain why the dragon shouldn't be effected by the madness. After the last dragon had killed his wife and children due to the madness, the dark one released him from it, to show him what he'd done. So the reincarnation should still be free from it.

Where can I find those? I clicked through everything on prime and no dice.

Interesting. I guess I wasn't paying close intention. After thousands of years, those really shouldn't be standing anymore or even be visible over ground. But magic, whatever. :D I wonder what happened? Did the dragon destroy how electricity works? That's the only reason I could think off for being thrown back thousand of years. But even then, shouldn't there be guns around? I think the Dragon would be the only one not effected by the madness the dark one corrupted the one power with. Which is why they are so sure that the men who go mad aren't the dragon. Which also means if our three guys don't go mad, we know for sure they are all part of the dragon.

So Nynaeve is the fifth one. Have to say I was 99% sure about that one the moment the fifth one came up. Guess she lied about her age or it was unclear due to her being orphaned or the age isn't as important? It also seems more and more likely that all five of them are the dragon. Maybe his soul broke apart when the world broke or something. Also that breaking of the world set them back thosands of years? Are we going to see some fallen down skyscrapers at some point?

Two merging black holes might have been the dumbest idea I've ever heard, and on this show alone I've heard a million of dumb ideas. When two black holes merge they release a massive amount of energy. No way nobody would have detected that. Why do they always have to go for the flashy bullshit? One massive black hole would have been enough of an explaination and that would have been actually hard to detect. (although if it effects 5 light years it should have been charted a long time ago, but same goes a million times for their two merging black holes) So how did the Stamits Hologram keep continue to function after the tether was cut? They said thay'd send it through the teather to get around the distortions. And Stamits couldn't even send data back, but he could maintain a live stream of his body and conciousness? Yeah, sure.

I really don't buy that with their medical technology they can't revive anybody who has been dead for less than a minute, als long as their head is still intact, like here with the station commander. And renamed it? You'd think it would have to be renamed every year, since students would gossip and give away that it's a no win scenario, destroying the intended effect.

Yes, pretty please. I guess wondering about the expired medication took up most of my brain space. Well that and browsing the web because I was kinda bored, considering it was clear the baby would die. But you are right, that is another strike.

Would this drug having been expired really changed anything in its effectiveness? Usually expire dates on drugs are completely arbitrary and they work just fine for years after. Plus it can't have been expired for long, right? It seems a bit (a lot) far fetched. Anybody know this particular drug and can weigh in?

Nobody wants social commentary, we want representation. That's completely different. While you could have argued that all the people of colour were wrong in a medieval european setting, you can't really argue that with queer people. We've always been here and always will be. Also this is still a fantasy world. I don't think medieval Europe had actual magic, so there is pretty obviously things the writers changed. ;) It's not about the books being well established, it's about book readers not spoiling it for exclusive watchers. We ASOIAF book readers could have spoiled Jon Snow being a Targaryen and rightfull heir to the throne, from the first episode on, since it "was well established". But we didn't since we knew it would be huge spoilers (although in the show it didn't end up mattering anyway, since D&D are massive hacks). Also in Dungeons and Dragons. But there it might actually lead to a TPK, here we know everybody has plot-armour. At least Mrs. True is a super soldier from the future. What combat-training has Nynaeve got? There is no way she isn't contractually obligated to make these posts. She might believe in the show, she might not, but her social media posts aren't any indication either way.

Good CGI is. Bad CGI you can get in the bargain bin nowadays and this was, well middling at best. So not really sure where that money went either. Really, there are SyFy shows that are better in all of these aspects than this show. They are rare, but they do exist. The Expanse and nBSG come to mind. Meh. Having grown up in germany's Mittelgebirge, mountains always leave me a bit cold. The ocean is where it's at!

He didn't. He programmed it to open once Anacrians show up. He said so himself. It kinda was solely based on her and even with her it was a longshot. Either psychohistory is magic or this isn't predictable, is the point. There is Evidence that Empire isn't a dumbass. Surely he has heard of "The enemy of my enemy is my friend"? It's nice that you are enjoying this show despite it's massive flaws, but those are some pretty heavy acrobatics you are doing there to defend the indefensible. It comes back to psychohistory being magic. Actually, that scene was probably the best one in the episode. You don't see anything. He just says what he's doing or going to do. It's also not quite clear if he really did half the things he said. It's kinda neat in that way. So did I and I still thought it was horrible for the most part. But ymmv of course. Tbh getting your memory wiped and sex trafficed seems like a tropical vacation in comparison to what Day said he was going to do to her. But they even talked about him in this very episode. Clearly he is still very much on their mind. If they had completely forgotten about him, I could buy it, but it's somebody who they talk about all the time and they won't even send one ship? Hari wants to build a second foundation there, one that works (more?) in the shadows. The explaination was that the first foundation should be the public front and the one on Helicon in the shadows, but I guess that went out of the window with the season finale, so no idea what the second foundation is supposed to be good for. I mean, who else is there, really?

So, nobody was confirmed to be queer in the first three episodes, afterall, if you'd have to cross into book talk to explain. I know a few people protested in the first episode thread, but I doubt we will get queer people in the main cast, other than maybe in-name-only-queers. Other than that, best we can hope for is side characters, in these kinds of shows.

Holo Hari on the ship to Helicon a few episodes ago revealed that he had no idea that Gaal could see the future or was special in that way. Holo Hari on Terminus didn't seem very surprised that everything went off without a hitch, without Gaal. Besides so much had to go right for them to get that giant warship to terminus, I think we can safely come back to "Psychohistory is magic". Hari's plan called for the resources of their planets. They are going to build warships. The mini settlement on Terminus can't do that alone. Also they said something about "sticking to the outer reaches of the galaxy to not be noticed", not sticking to terminus. And as for the Empire not believing them to be a threat. Empire doesn't seem to be stupid enough for that. Maybe Dusk would be arrogant enough to believe that, but current Day doesn't seem the type. So what is it? Is psychohistory magic and can predict everything or not? Or are they going to write Day out of character next season and show that he really doesn't check up on the planets? Or will they do a 138 year time skip immediatly and just basically reset the empire storyline? It's not confusing, just badly written. Body, although they said something different last episode. Seems like it. Which is the dumbest part about it (but not the only dumb part). They are somewhat explained, but again very badly. That's how I saw it coming. Just ask yourself "what is the most cliched, boring direction this could go that fits the worst?" and you got what these writers are going for. It doesn't fit with what she said before. The writers even had to change the wording to somehow cram it in there. She said multiple times before "I'm loyal to Empire", this time she said "I'm loyal to the cleonic line". Not the same thing. That might not make a big difference to a human, but it would mean a world of difference to a robot. Dawn is also Empire, until Day decides he's not, no matter his DNA. Also first rule of robotics. It has never been brought up on this show, but if you are adapting an asimov work, you know... Why would it not open by design? Other than plot convenience? Salvor had no way of knowing Gaal would show up there a hundred years later. And yeah, the home planet at least makes a little sense, but Gaals house (or tiny village, whatever)? Buh humbug! I could do without these main characters and if they'd do it, they really could have done it much better.

Still liked it, but not as good as the first two episodes. Also not that much happened, really. Were we supposed to know the guy in the cage at the end? They kinda framed it like we should. I'm bad with faces. Is it going to turn out, that they are all the dragon together? I have never read the books or heard anything about them other than the name (until recently I thought they were scifi), but it seems like something fanatasy authors would do. And they do all seem to have powers. Somebody in the episode 1 thread told me somebody would be revealed to be queer by this episode. If they meant Rand's "Yeah if I wanted a man I could do better", yeah, that's not any indication of queerness. The modern aquivalent would be "Yeah, if I was gay I could do better". Ugh, don't remind me. That season finale broke me. And the dialogue wasn't even the problem. At least I can fanwank it in a way, that those two are just some small town hicks who have no idea how the world works and she was trying to keep them there so played it like she was super charmed by their antics. Speaking off, where are those trololos? They watched our heros walk into the death-city and then just decided to go home?

Sufficiently epic opening credits visually, but really boring music. Should have gotten Bear McCreary. I really wish there wasn't so much dumb, young, straight relationship drama in this. But it seems they might be mostly done with that after this episode. "The old blood runs deep in you"... A bit hard to believe when clearly different blood runs in all our heroes. It's important to have representation in a show, but maybe next time do a bit of a rewrite... This one shot really sparks my imagination: Looks like that used to be a gigantic river, with a bridge longer than the eye can see. I wonder what could have dried that up. Was it part of the story, where the queen burned the land? Was the magic so powerfull that it made the river disappear? Either somebody really overdid it with the artificial film grain (sometimes added to give CGI-scenes a more realistic look) or Amazons codec has some major problems (looked even worse in motion): Also the CGI of those buildings wasn't great in general, tbh. Since the sky looked fine in the other scenes, I really think somebody might have cranked up the film grain way high, to hide the ugly buildings and didn't look at the sky. So why didn't the trololos jsut wait outside of the cursed city for them? Actually, where are they? Did they just go home? But overall this episode was still very enjoyable. :)

This was really good. Hopefully it doesn't go the way of Foundation. That became a total shitshow after a good first episode. Also can, somebody, anybody please be gay in these shows? I'm so tired of watching a bunch of young straight couples and their relationshipdramas. That might just be a me-problem, but some representation would be nice. Guess there is one of the four left who could still be gay. Fingers crossed. (but that's not going to happen, is it?)

Oh where to beging? This episode was chock full of bullshit. So I guess the beginning... So Hari's cofin transformed into a vault of super-technology and even with all the time the construction would have taken it made it to Terminus before the settlers? Sure. And it made a hologram of Hari that is completely independant from the one we've already seen? Why couldn't those sync through hyperspace communication? Also where did the vault-cofin get the data from the hologram from? By the time the foundation put the body in there the brain should have been too degraded and the data was in the knife that Gaal has with her. How could Hari predict how the crisis would play out if he didn't know about Salvor and her special abilities? She was instrumental for that to happen. Otherwise that would have been a shitshow of epic proportions. I guess we are back to psychohistory being magic. The woman on Terminus saying "Gaal never made it to Terminus" to Hari. Maybe she should have added "We thought she and Raach murdered you. We executed him for that crime. You colossal asshole." And after a few exposition dumps hari fucks right back off into the vault?! What the actual fuck?! I guess there is a massive timejump anyway, but the writers better get him out of there for next season the moment that episode starts or I am out of here. Enough is enough. Is the empire really not going to check up on a colony of "terrorists" they still talk about to this day? It's not like it's a thousand year journey. It's a short jump. I think the writers kinda screwed themselves when they introduced jump technologie. If there were only "slow" (still way faster than light) ships I could buy it. Of course then the empire would have no grasp on the galaxy... So never mind, I guess... So I guess you could finally say this is a reason for Terminus to orbit a red dwarf. Such megaflares you wouldn't get from less volitile stars. Of course the red dwarf also should have sterilised that planet multiple times over for real and there shouldn't be life on it, but whatever, I guess. Also it still doesn't look red... and Terminus has a day night cycle, which means it wouldn't be in the habitable zone... but whatever, I guess. Also why would empire not check up on the other two planets full of dummies, just because they faked the sterilisation of terminus? Empire bombed them just a few decades ago. You'd think they would at least from time to time check up on them to see that they don't mount a resistance... The biological determinism these writers espouse really grinds my gears. The Nazis would be super-fans. We are always a combination of our DNA and our experiences, also hormones we got blasted with in the womb and other environmental factors. I saw it coming from a mile away that Demerzel would kill Dawn to resolve the conflict. Because that is what hack writers would do. So predictable. I think I should just start thinking "what is the worst way I could write this" and my predictions about this story will become way more accurate. Of course it's total bullshit, because she has always said she was loyal to Empire, meaning the Cleons who are currently alive and not "the cleonic dynasty", like she said here. Also she just broke the first law of robotics. Somewhere Asimov is rotating in his grave near the speed of light. So they really keep all their DNA in that guy in a glass box? They don't have some in cryo somewhere? And that change was made before current Day was made? That is exactly the opposite of what rebel lady told us last episode. Why would she lie? She was doing her evil monolouge and was sure she was going to kill Dawn soon. Also where did the rebels have the DNA for their replacement dawn from? They said he was genetically pure. Did they smuggle it out a hundred years ago? And if the Cleon in a box is corrupted, what would the palace even have to compare the DNA to? Do they actually have it on file? If so why don't they use that for cloning? It gets worse and worse the more you think about it. Also if Day isn't a perfect clone, shouldn't he have gotten a vision, if we take that religious bullshit seriously? Should I really root for the megalomaniacal, ruthless Emporer, who kills thousands just because they knew a rebel? Because I do. He is the only interesting and relateable character in this whole show (well and Demerzel, maybe). Ironic considering how much the writers want to tell us that he isn't his own person. My congratulations to the cryopod-wizard again. His magic is strong indeed! Not only can it fly faster than light, it can also preserve life for hundrets of year, not only in space but also in saltwater, after a crash landing. Also it crashlands exactly at the childhood home of one of our heroins! What precision! What a great luck-enchantment! Only thing he skimped out on a bit was the magic life boat. It constructed itself fine, and looked super fake while doing it, like any good magic should, but then it doesn't have a magic outboard motor? You have to use the magic paddles? Really that's just lazy, cryopod-wizard! I think the writers thought we would be surprised by Salvor being Gaal's daughter and, at the end of the episode, it being Salvor who was in the pod, considering the whole blanket reveal bullshit? Guys, you explained the embryo harvesting for hours and when Gaal dragged Salvor to the surfice we could see her hair. Nobody else has that hairstyle. Up until now I kinda had fun hate-watching this show. But I think this episode just broke me. I'm broken.

She didn't. She said "the cost of the medical equipment and treatment is several hundred thousand dollars more than the value of that contract." If they already have the equipment was left unclear. Of course the whole conversation wouldn't make sense if they already had it, but as we have established, it doesn't make sense either way, so: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Except that it could have massively backfired and just informing the patient of her options wouldn't have run that same risk. Let's assume the hospital doesn't have the equipment and blonde doctor has to tell the patient that she is refering her to a hospital that does, is the patient then going to go "What?! You won't buy million dollar equipment just for me and treat me here?! Instead you are giving me a referal to a top notch hospital?! You bitch! Not only am I not going to give you the contract, I'm going to ruin you!" Does that sound like a realistic reaction?

Yeah, but still. If they have the equipment already, then the cost of the procedure is mostly virtual to them. Sure, they don't make money in the few hours it's being used for that operation, but it didn't sound like such a machine would be used 24/7 anyway. Which only leaves doctors salary. That is certainly high, but not astronomical. And maybe they could even make a deal with the insurance company where they pay for the normal operation and they do the more expensive one. In any case the potential contract would make more than up for the cost. If they don't have the equipment, they could send her to another hospital. She would still be greatfull that blonde doctor diagnosed her early, figured out a way to save 100% of her eyesight and sent her to the right doctors who could do that operation and would give the hospital the contract, because of how greatfull she was and because of the great medical care she recieved. Whereas only saving 60% of her vision could have seriously disgruntled her. She works in the medical sector. Who says she wouldn't have gotten a second opinion and there she would have learned of the 100% option? I agree with @amarante this didn't make any sense in any shape or form. So either the writers wrote a lot of hogwash or Salen is incompetent.

Do you have a good source for that? Finding bodies under water, I can buy. The water transports scents up, but scent trails after two weeks? That seems entirely unbelieveable. Those scents should be gone after a few hours, tops. There was recently a case of a girl who went missing on a hiking tour on the czech- german border. She was eventuelly found alive days afterwards in the Czech Republic. Not by a dog, but by a human, who was part of a search party. Dogs are really overrated when it comes to finding people and most of the mythical powers ascribed to their noses were just coincidences. She put it into an evidence bag.

At the beginning everybody was surprised why they chose the four troublemakers. Well, they explained at the end. They hoped these 4 would do something stupid and get in trouble during their trip and thus they could explain why the 4400 needed to be detained. So it was never about good PR, it was about bad PR and for that the stunt makes at least a little sense. Although not sure why LaDonna was chosen, because she was their perfect little mouthpiece last episode and they have no idea that she leaked the video. A penis doesn't make you a man. Otherwise injured vets wouldn't be men anymore. Also look at some trans men who have been on T for a while. Do you think it's possible to have lesbian sex with Buck Angel? They did mention other facilities before, but in blink and you miss it throwawy lines.

Was the doctor being trans also supposed to be a revelation for us? Is that why they draged that scene out so much? Because I clocked him two episodes ago. But he is only ever so slightly clockable and I don't see how he could have achieved these results before injectable testosterone. Which would have been 1939 and I gether he got sucked-off (again, shoutouts to Ghosts) in the 1920s. Also he seemed surprised when other trans guy told him about it in a previous episode. I don't know, I think there should be a bit more realism with a sensitive subject like this, but maybe I'm expecting too much. But curing all manner respiratory diseases? Yeah, I don't buy that. We don't have cures for those now. See covid. More likely that his girlfriend just got better after a while. Or are we to believe he really cured her? If so, not sure why the writers wouldn't have chosen something more believable. The good reverend disowning his son after he learns he's gay, what a class act. Probably a good thing he wasn't around to bully his son while he was growing up. They stated again, and this time more clearly, that there are other facilities housing the rest of the 4400. So at least we can put that discussion to rest.