LBS

F this show and F the pseudo psych bullshit that Tyler sprouts while his wife is literally cowering on the couch gnawing on her nails as the sister talks about being abused from her April-like mom. And F Cate for being apart of this b.s and not getting into therapy herself and F him for wanting to Butch to love him so he feels empathy for the mom who beat her daughter UNCONSCIOUS because she almost ate her meth because she thought it was candy. And mostly F Dr. Drew because they parroted every TM reunion show he hosts. I hardly ever comment but this is awful

I loved this episode and especially the visual of Ruby biting the apple from Johan's hand. It makes me laugh every time I remember it.

That's what makes me so mad. Equine therapy would probably do her some good (any actual therapy minus the douchebag would be good) but why buy the horse? Did she buy the copy room therapist? Will they live together and take turns cuddling up to the warm glow of the xerox machine at night?

leahdawn92mtv@d_w92 I've been doing much better I'll have you to know. Howeverrrr, I'm excited to expand my vocabulary and learn in English. I'm well aware I will benefit from those classes! ☺️?? I really hope she's poking fun at herself and did not seriously use "learn in English".

He also just posted a missive about guns and safety. If he teaches his children about gun safety as well as he spells and uses grammar, I fear for them.

@Maharincess oh that makes me happy to hear about Ice T and CoCo. I loved their show and follow her and her baby on IG. They all seem so sweet!

I really like this show despite its complete scripted nature. I find them all to be entertaining and in on the joke. Plus, I want John Cena to teach me how to drive stick. Pretty much I want John Cena to teach me how to do anything. I'll forget how to open up a bottle of wine* in order for him to patiently teach me. And color me stupid, but I truly believed Lana had an accent and I was shocked when I heard her talk. *basic life skill that I've mastered since I turned 21 (give or take a few years)

LMAO on the bolded part. Thank you!

@poopchute I think it is in relation to the prostitution arrest for one of her friends that RadarOnLine uncovered and tweeted. a

All I got to say is that I am an EPLI* Underwriter and I am so thankful we don't insure her store because there was so many things wrong her interview/work environment. AND IT WAS ON CAMERA. That's every class-action lawyers dream. Illegal questions during the interview and the blatant wage and hour violations (40 hours in 3 days? Is she paying OT? Rest breaks? Is she paying for the uniforms/sunglasses or reimbursing them?) to start. Gah, I'd love for her employees to file an EEOC suit against her. *Employment Practices Liability Insurance. It's as sexy as it sounds.

I'm not a fan of Leah and I think her jumping back and forth to relationships and cheating is pretty toxic. I also think that she is only 24 and that actually make me sad. Because she should have the freedom to break hearts and get heartbroken as she is the right age for that to be appropriate. I look at myself at that age and I wish she has the opportunity to be 'free' without the worries of the kids and the pressure to be perfect for her minions. Because you should F up in your 20s. That's how you learn to be an adult. I don't condone her or condem her. I just feel bad for her. She will always have a hard life despite the money because she doesn't know how to fail successfully. I'm not sure that even makes sense lol! Edited to add: I feel the same way about Kail. Jenelle would of made the same awful choices as evident in her first TM episode and Chelsea is Chelsea. She had support even when she rebelled. She got to fail albeit landing in a safe space when she did. Kail and Leah always struck me as never having a safe space when they got pregnant and then had this 'fame' thrust upon them. Again - just musing as I enter my last half of being 38 and so glad that my F ups were off camera and no babies daddies.

@Mu Shu I assume you are quoting Anchorman and if so you can assume I laughed stupidly hard.

I meant by 'implied' that before JoJo the 3rd or 4th castoff was almost always picked. So for them to ask for women for Nick is because that is unprecedented for them to pick so far back from a regular season and certainly from a recent BIP. I don't think anyone applied thinking it was going to be him so why not ask for more to the dating pool who may actually want to date him. I also think that Nick and Luke are/were both out to advance their careers/brand. I.G Luke with his band. Each have so called 'red flags' I would of been fine with either . Luke intrigued me and I was very happy thinking he was the next one. His sly humor on the out-takes from his season made me hopeful that he could carry its. I also do think that Nick is fun because he has been on 3 times. He gets the process and it will be interesting to see him behave and how he knows how to read the room. TLDR recap: I love this because it again shakes up the rut of the who is going to be the next 'star'. Hopefully from now on the contestants won't all be gunning for the final 4 so they get the next gig. Picking JoJo and Nick throws the game a curve ball which was very needed.

I don't think that is the case. I think it is more that some women may not have applied since it was so strongly implied that the bachelor would be Luke or Chase. Now they have a chance to apply for the official bachelor. Does America need to see any of these galoots try and find love on TV? :) All of them are attractive enough to be able to find women/men on their own. If I had the opportunity to possibly find love in the most surreal way, I would try it if I wasn't happily engaged.

Um.... I don't actually watch the show. I think I watched 15 minutes of it last season because I can't handle the stupidity on my screen. However, I read all the recaps and the commentary on here and I have my little sister (who is an avid watcher) believing that I actually watch it so we can gossip about it. I'm not sure what that says about me as an almost 39 year old woman.....

OMG - so I am a newish poster but this shocks me in a good way. Two seasons in a row the 3rd runner up isn't chosen makes for less fame idiots. Nick is one and I won't argue that point but I think it can only bring more of the Sharleens rather than more of the Laces. I just think lately it was an audition for BIP/bachelor than a love fest.

@yorklee2 in regards to the Cosmo articles, I only know that Ashley I writes one. She has alluded several times that Calia is not what she seems and that not everybody liked her. Ashley also wrote that Calia will "backstab" her later in the season. But I take everything with a huge grain of margarita salt. Also - did anyone hear Grant ask Lace if she wanted a shot after her mini-breakdown? He seems to know the way to her heart. Josh annoyed me to no end when he was proclaiming how great he was for caring for Sabel (his dog and please kill me that I actually recalled the name of his dog without looking but can't remember my best friend birthday) for the last 6 months so of course he's a good guy. He was actively on Famously Single at that point. Gah. Not that it matters but when that is your argument that you are a "right reasons" person you can't ignore the fact that you were on another exploitative reality show.

@yorklee2 she totally said it! I watched it twice over (that moment not the show). Makes sense to the context of some of her Cosmo articles.

@BusyOctober I want to refuse to believe that but I am half a bottle of wine in while switching from this sh!t show and WWE Raw so maybe I'm part of the problem. :)

You all need to remember that she's not a regular adult. She's a kidult. And she won't be a regular mom. She'll be a "cool" mom. And her precious snowflake won't be a regular child but rather that snot nosed brat kicking the back of your booth while you're trying to drink a bloody mary at an adult only brunch place.

Were Jared and Evan eating the lobster dinner that Evan had for Amanda's "date" when they were mangling Robert's Frost beloved poem? (And I didn't twig that Evan wrote the date card until the re-cap. Shivers in second hand embarrassment)

https://www.facebook.com/JoJo-Fletcher-245708679101449/ But it's not her actual page. It's a "public figure" page. Her actual page (I think): https://www.facebook.com/Joelle-Jojo-Fletcher-1751736571728074/

So I just went through her Instagram because work is tiresome (but not as tiresome as her posts) and she's 5 months along. I thought they were only dating for 7 months and broke up for one of those months. So she's been pregnant for most of their long distance relationship? Why am I so annoyed by this?

She's in Miami celebrating Farrah's 25th birthday and god help us all, I went down the rabbit hole on her and Farrah's instagram. I need to bleach my eyes.

I thought the scene in which Noah washes Rosalee back a beautiful call back to the first episode. I thought it was a beautiful moment of trust and showed the growth between them.