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I know this marks me as a peasant but I just kept thinking that 'dang, everyone knows you always have a sack or cat litter in the trunk during winter in case you get stuck... Regarding Andy and the maybe not dead lynx. I believe he said he was thawing it (and thus obviously dead) so he could skin and dress it. I'm not a hunter but I would guess that if it froze before rigor set in, it would still not be stiff when thawed. Anyone know?

This is RHOC...I'm not believing that anything here is what could even generously be described as 'real'. I think scripted, prewritten and approved by TPTB might be a more accurate description.

I don't have a problem with Andy. I'm not saying that he's the nicest man in the world but I have a ton of respect for the life he's chosen, how he treats his dogs--even that he recognized that however many he had before his partner left were too much for him to cope with on his own and so found good homes/sold them so that remaining animals would be well cared for. He impresses me as a head down, get the job done kind of guy without a lot of BS; independent, capable. I also have empathy for his realization that he's aging and is uncertain how much longer he can continue with this life. I couldn't do what he does.

This comment gt me thinking (along with recent national news and happenings). We've joked about Browntown and it's inhabitants being a cult and all of that but it occurred to me that, in a way, while they're certainly charlatans, cheats, thieves and BSers, they're basically harmless. Annoying and dishonest, vile lying slobs with no respect for the environment but relatively harmless. They're not murdering anyone. They're not protesting (ala Waynesboros Baptist Church), they're not, as far as I know, lodging endless lawsuits against anyone. Not to misunderstand; they're not nice people and I don't want to sit down for dinner with them or have them move in next door but my take is that if you choose to buy the crap they're selling, it's on your own head. Just saying.

I liked that blue. Maybe it's that none of the storylines they have going are interesting, so they're going with quantity over quality. Or the producers have no idea what to do with this show/the characters/various story arcs--or have too many not very good ideas-- and so seem to be throwing everything at the wall to see what will stick. And yes, every characterization merely and barely scratches the surface and so there's no reason to care about any of either characters or the plotlines. One thing which actively annoyed me about the latest ep was the town gossip garbage of Cassie and the dr going to (ohmygod!) the festival together. All I could think of was that maybe Sam could pass Cassie a note in study hall to ask her. Supposedly mature adults really worried about what anyone thinks about them maybe stepping out together? Grow the hell up. The entire town is trapped in 7th grade.

One every minute....

That's a show I'd really enjoy! Days past the last ep and still nothing, of course there was no' there' there. Again. Another new and likely pointless plot twist--Mrs Brandon was abandoned at birth and her need for kids is tied up with her desire to never ever do that to a baby but first she needs to find and confront her missing mom? Sure, whatever. Useless cousin takes on heading the big town party then does nothing with an knowing half smile shared by Cassie. And all with turn out well in the end with the exception of the end of season cliff hanger. Cassie going to the Maldives? I'll take that bet; never happen I'm thinking. Seriously, round and round they go, getting nowhere.

It seems we're agreeing with one another here, Joe. BS is mother's milk in Browntown and, being the compulsive twit that I sometimes am, I was just trying to be fair (or something). I'll see your BS and raise you a load o'crap. I'm constantly astounded by people who really do buy this garbage at face value. On the other hand, PT Barnum had it right about a sucker born every minute. On one hand it's sad, on the other--seriously? Grow a brain.

To be fair (and it kills me to write this) but didn't the house arrest/ankle shackle thing happen relatively late and they may have really thought that they were going to the hoosegow. Hoosegow--now there's a word for you! Seriously, how people can actually buy this steaming pile o'crap and believe it, feel sorry for these poor people under the oh too close eye of da man...I mean, c'mon...maybe there's a bridge for sale in Hoonah.

I admit that I know squat about making/refining hydrogen but my baby boy is a professional glass worker who majored in it in college and has been supporting himself with it for years. He specializes in torch work; working/ melting/shaping glass using a specialized torch; it's like a very high end Bunsen burner with more controls and costs a fortune for the good ones as opposed to glass blowing with a big furnace and the glob of molten glass on a long blow pipe. His torch uses either propane or acytelyn (sp, I know), usually mixed with oxygen. Both are readily available or, in the bush, just go on down to the local dump...and both gases burn just fine, thank you. I'm assuming that the local plumbers or welders and the like could steer Noah in the right direction. Either that or he could clue them into the bush production of hydrogen. Another possibility would be for Noah to get a herd of cows; they produce milk and you can eat them. Their methane also burns well.

If we're to believe the promo for next week those pesky gun-totin' neighbors are back again with mysterious gunshots in the night. Another plot being recycled. And the morons spent an entire episode floating a derelict shack covered with slime/mold and inhabited by tiny crabs...then--somehow--towed it to their beach and only the good lord knows how they'll get it to high ground. In stead of actually clearing the flotsam from the shore, which is what they were supposed to be doing. This is becoming unwatchable.

Both good points and both examples of chances missed. The dr and Cassie's different POV's regarding solutions to medicine or whatever could have been expanded on to cause an ongoing source of discussion and interaction instead of being dropped in exchange for adolescent flirting. The ex was a two dimensional character whose only motivation seemed to to be to use the son as an excuse to get back with her ex, up to and including moving into his guest room...something any normal adult would have stopped before she carried in the first suitcase. Now she seems to be out of sight, out of mind, out of the storyline. Even supposed story conflict is transparently weak--will Cassie choose the dr or the former beau who just offered her a job in Timbuktu overseeing a dig (or something like that). Obviously she's not going to take a job which would take her away from her daughter or change the show that dramatically--abandoning or pushing far into the background the other characters, the town and everything which they've spent years establishing. Even if they used the hiatus as an excuse for Cassie to go away and then have her come back with season 3's opener, well, really? I don't think so.

With apologies, didn't someone above post that Browntown is actually on a piece of land owned by the Mayor and being rented by TPTB? Maybe he shows up for an inspection, sees the godawful mess and evicts them...

Yes, but the question is whether or not it's bringing in ratings, which are what ad revenue--and the real value of any show-- is based on. Anyone know how the ratings are doing? Just MHO, but I find this unending nastiness, the drunken arguments and endless BS to be less than entertaining and have basically signed off aside from the commentary on this site. I ain't watching and they've lost this viewer and I suspect I'm not alone.

I turned this one off and went back to my sewing machine (seriously,l it's what I do for a living). Beth showed up (or, more likely, was scripted) to be pissed out of the gate, angry at being there, angry at the other women, determined to be a bitch and kill any good vibes or fun to be had. Endless nasty remarks, aimed to hurt aren't my idea of entertainment. Even assuming that each cast member was in on the plot--a ruined party, tears, anger and a thoroughly horrible weekend--isn't something I need to waste my time on. I'd rather wind bobbins. The $ must be good for them to submit to this crap and have it aired, knowing that their families, kids and friends will see it.

Or lack thereof. I was raised around large boats and taught how to handle them starting when I was about 12. I'm not an expert mariner by any means, but I can dock a damn boat, thank you.

Dang, one aches to know what that kerfuffle was about....!

I agree with you, Tree. The original movies, while hardly world beaters, were sort of fun and actually moved the plotline along--Cassie arrives in town, makes a few friends, opens a shop, eventually becomes accepted, is elected Mayor, marries, has a baby, is widowed (okay, that was the pilot of the show, but explained why Chris Potter was MIA). And they maintained the air of is she or isn't she... This seems to me to be a meandering mishmosh with little real direction (in both senses of the word) and just coasts along, never really going anywhere and never really getting anywhere. It's a wasted possibility, IMO.

And aside from the occasional, passing sad reference, no real growth/long term impact of her late husbands death/murder. Okay, yes, it's was Brandon's impetus to become a cop but that reality was basically a one off to explain his being on the show and now he's just another cop on the beat. It would be interesting to see the family's reaction to--say--the cop killer's release from prison. I'd like to see Grace's feelings about mom dating again; most kids would have a reaction or several, both pro and con. And seriously, lose the cast of thousands secondary characters who are as deep as a shallow puddle. Either that or actually give them some real story lines, motivations, relationships. Use them or cut them I say! And dear god please...speed up the snail's pace of what's passing for plots.

Thank you--that's getting on my last nerve, too. It's almost like a half smile takes the place of actual acting/reactions/emotion and the shop--which someone above was right in pointing out--no longer has the 'special' vibe it had in the original movies. Now it looks like a generic gift/Hallmark store...come to think of it, isn't this the Hallmark channel? Insufferable. If she were a real kid in a real school she'd be the one the other kids rolled their eyes at. An old classmate of mine was nick named 'Patty Perfect'--very pretty, good grades, never a foot wrong, probably didn't sweat, never a raised voice--but she had the softening power of dating (and later marrying) one of the class bad boys. She's become a good friend over the decades, our kids grew up together, is still pretty perfect, still married to the bad boy and is actually an incredibly nice person but back in the day she was a combo of intimidating and sticky sweet. I guess there may be eventual hope for Grace. Maybe, so long as she doesn't evolve that annoying enigmatic smile.

Okay, I admit that I was dial twisting between this new ep and a rerun of Madam Secretary but why did Brandon's idiot and hormonal wife quit her PhD program? I missed that completely. And why doesn't anyone on this show ever even slightly indicate that they're actually annoyed? I keep thinking of a quote from a friend of mind referring to annoyingly, endlessly upbeat shows; 'happy people with happy problems'. Okay, happy is good . I like to be happy in real life, in a supposed drama it flatout doesn't work. Drama needs conflict to create, oh...well...drama. Whether or not the big anniversary party will remain a surprise or will the cafe owner open a catering business or not doesn't or any of the other interchangeable secondary characters life crises we see don't seem to ramp up the tension quite enough.

I recall reading somewhere that the judge in their case prohibited TPTB from filming any part of their sentences. That may have been before they were reduced to house arrest or whatever it was changed to if that makes any difference. Didn't they also get community service + fines? I suspect that may mean we won't see them in semi-shackles or picking up trash by the side of the road. Goodness, of course Noah is still in the coop--how else is he going to impress his next soul mate? He'd want to show her his experiments and be able to serenade the wench/fair maiden. I do vaguely wonder why Christy--his former true love--bailed from the show, though. Maybe she really did decide to go away to school or maybe she just didn't want to play along any longer. Or maybe she asked for a raise?

Dear God...there were 3 Jasons????? Where was I? Crikey.

Slightly OT but the current references to A&S; all I can think of is the now defunct department store Abraham and Strauss, always called A&S. I used to work in their display department. They were bought out by Macy's maybe 30 or years ago.

Am I right in recalling that Jason 1 lost his job because of his appearances on the show? I know that was a rumor back in the day and yes--one wonders what their probable divorce would have looked like; he had kids from a previous and she hadn't hit her big $ yet (though she wasn't far away, just a few years). I wonder if it would have been the clusterfuck the current one is. A&S, yes. Definitely an odd pair but they seemed to have a genuinely close relationship and similar goals + clearly adored their kids. They were not much more than okay financially and probably over extended but still made do with off season vacations and the like. I kinda thought that they were the most endearing, if that makes any sense...lower BS quotient, side from the social climbing, which was entertaining.