Moxie Cat

I made it through four episodes before being curious enough to see what others think of this show. The lack of posts in this section is telling. At this point, my main hope is that Agnes and her son make it out of the country safely, but I fear she's being set up too. She's the only character I actually root for though - which is one reason why this show has become such a slog. And it should be much funnier than it is. Succession was about terrible people too, whom you had a hard time rooting for - but every episode was so freaking funny. These episodes just leave me depressed.

Thanks for the news! I love the show, but my mom will be over the moon about 2 more seasons. I can't imagine there isn't a time jump though. Surely they can't sustain an entire season of both James and Tristan being away. And if there isn't movement with the Siegfried/Audrey pairing next year, I will SCREAM. I still can't believe we weren't tossed a bone in the Christmas episode! (Sorry, but "Siegfried is right, you are remarkable" just doesn't cut it.)

He got away with it, BUT he apparently lost all of his leverage over many/all politicians, business people, etc. Obviously he would have been back in the next season to wreak more havoc, but I think the point was that his "empire" was destroyed. I know he was a bad guy, but I just loved seeing Professor Lasky again! If I were them, I would have made some immunity deal with the feds in exchange for the flash drive. With the show ending, I'm just going to assume that's what happened! Because it wasn't just them - it was Katsumoto who would have been implicated too. Even if they were willing to risk themselves, I don't think they would have risked him. So it stands to reason that a deal had been made. In addition, I find it hard to believe that the audio evidence of Higgins and Magnum discussing the cover up would have been admissible (or even legal for the lackey to record). It also strikes me as something that could easily be faked with AI. The evidence on the flash drive was no doubt a lot stronger and compelling. I got stuck on Juliet's improbable jumping down the side of the building! But then, this is the 5-0 universe, so.... I'm sad it's ending, but it did end on a happy note. I would have liked to see Kumu co-managing the bar, though! Does anyone know if Zach Knighton and "Suzy" are still together IRL?

But wouldn't that fit with where Riverdale was heading in the last few seasons in "the real world?" I know some of that had to do with Hiram's machinations, but it's also very realistic to have a small town in the middle of nowhere become irrelevant due to industry moving elsewhere. And notably, in the original timeline, the town also fell apart when all the main characters moved away after high school. The same thing also happened here - they all moved away. No one moved back to reinvigorate the town, as in the original timeline. The characters made society better on a macro level, but that had nothing to do with the fate of the town itself. That said, I would have been OK with seeing a happy town in the finale.

SFU inspired this for sure - but the ending was straight up Titanic, right down to Jason Blossom holding the door open for Betty. I half-expected everyone in the diner to start clapping. Darn it all if this episode didn't make me tear up numerous times - so well done, Riverdale. And kudos to Lili, who hit it out of the park.

I haven't followed the ins and outs of when they did and didn't know. BUT. As someone who has watched genre shows for many years, I find it hard to believe that the writers didn't have SOME suspicion that season 4 would be the end. Every season of Roswell, Buffy, Angel, Alias, etc. was a blessing. This is just real life as a genre fan. Heck, I was happily surprised when season 4 was picked up, despite all the CW drama in spring 2022. How could they not have had some inkling that this fourth season might be the end - when it seemed super obvious to me, just an average viewer? Even if you think you MIGHT get another season, you can still write towards the current season finale as if it MIGHT be the very last one. It's possible to give the main storylines closure and leave potential plots dangling in a way that will still satisfy the audience. Case in point: I just watched the season 3 finale of "The Righteous Gemstones." Yes, a very, very different show. But the finale tied up a lot of seasons-long story threads (and provided plenty of closure) while still providing glimmers of how the plot might continue. (Apparently it WAS renewed. Which is fine, and no big deal that the S3 finale was awesome!) Sorry for the rambling. I was just super annoyed with this episode. I love Nancy, and I have been here for Nancy/Ace since the middle of season 1. This is the second episode in which, I believe, they haven't even had a scene together. We are rolling towards the finale, and now Nancy is apparently some kind of reincarnated soul paired with Tristan? (Who has apparently lived in Horseshoe Bay his whole life and yet none of the Drew Crew know him. OK.) Ugh. I hope this gets better.

Little Joey was a regular for a season of the David E. Kelley show "Boston Public" about 20 years ago. I always thought he was a decent actor in that, but I never saw him again in anything until now. Living off those NKOTB residuals, I guess! The introduction of Gavin was weird. In the book, it works because the whole family comes to visit. But Ormand and Edwina are OK just shipping little Gavin off to visit with Jimmy's family? And then they cut out the infamous scene with Fern and the two kids anyway (which is OK). I guess they needed to introduce Gavin as a character, but then he just disappeared after that scene. Couldn't the show get Jesse Metcalfe for more than one episode? I hope he shows up for Christie's party at the opening of Midnight Whispers.

When this show gets the casting right, they hit it out of the park. And when they get it wrong, they fail spectacularly. Thankfully there's far more examples of the former.

So true! Most Danielle Steel books also include a husband who dies. I've learned to not root for too many of the heroine's first marriages. And in "Zoya," both husbands die!

Me too. I seem to recall that the younger Willie actors had darker reddish-brown hair, but noticed in this episode that adult William's hair is dark. Good thing that he resembles Geneva in that way more than Jamie and Bree.

I really enjoyed Dawn! And I've been lukewarm on most of these adaptations, except for Garden of Shadows. The actress playing Dawn is a dead ringer for Britt Robertson. I kept doing a double take! Only one quibble: it's clearly supposed to be set in the 1970s, based on "Eugenia's" gravestone. But I don't remember hair claw clips in the '80s, let alone the '70s. Otherwise, the fashion is pretty fun.

I was really worried that Ian's honor and guilt would lead into a "Game of Thrones" situation. Thank goodness that didn't happen. Plus, this episode already had me worried enough about the cat! Darn those recaps!

Jamie and Claire saw Lord John at Flora McDonald's reception last season, and Lord John and Jamie defended a printer from the mob in that episode too. The governor had asked Lord John to talk sense into Jamie about his loyalties. He hadn't seen Bree though since right before Bree and Roger tried to leave the last time. Yeah, I didn't understand that part either.

If Lord John means that the two (deceased) sisters knew, he means that the three remaining are himself, Jamie, and Claire...but he knows Bree also knows, so that's four people alive who know. (Plus Murtagh knew, which he didn't realize.) But didn't Lady Dunsany (William's grandmother) know also, or at least suspect? I thought his math was confusing - I was trying to figure it out too.

He told Claire that she slept with Ian and the guy in the church because they both knew that she was already carrying Allan's baby, and she was trying to find another guy to take responsibility. So yes, he confessed to impregnating her for sure. I'd have to see the scene again, but I thought in the dialogue it was very clear to Claire (and Ian) that he had killed her as well (plus we saw the flashback). Didn't Claire even tell him that his father took the blame for him? Here's what I don't understand: wasn't Malva working a love charm to get Jamie to fall in love with her? She was also fascinated by watching Jamie and Claire in the barn. Was all that because of her brother's plan or because she actually had a thing for Jamie? Very sad that she was coming to confess to Claire when Allan killed her (and that Claire had already knocked herself out and wouldn't have been able to answer the door anyway). Ah well - I'm not sorry to see the Christie saga end. I'm also predicting now that Fergus's hand is the reason for the obit misprint, and it will be different from the book. Yeah, I call foul on that line. Not sure why the writers had to say it was "every year" when "we only went twice, but I loved it" would have gotten the point across, and been way more believable. Finally: was anyone else shouting at the screen: "Use the tiny extra gem Jamie has! Keep Lord John's beautiful sapphire!" (I mean, assuming they did get the gem back - Claire throwing it out the window was very poetic but also kinda dumb.)