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*excepting Henry’s revelation of his and Betty’s visit to a nudist resort back in the day. That was gold. When Henry mentioned in the current episode at family dinner that he’d enjoy living in a sunny, warm location, my spouse quickly quipped “in the nude”.

Both Danny’s and Erin’s storylines were underdeveloped. At least with Erin’s, it was framed well enough that more details/screen time want necessary to get the gist. That last scene with Erin and Jack Boyle hints at a possible loss or even withdrawal from the DA race, and/or another mutual try a committed relationship. Danny’s story utilized almost every mob and heist trope one could imagine, beginning with the wedding free-for-all opener. Donnie Wahlberg delivered those Godfather and Ocean’s reference with exactly the right amount of snark. The actors playing the young couple were good, but her dad Carmine was so comic book I was shaking my head through those scenes. Frank and the Mayor was interesting in that Frank’s reaction wasn’t exactly what I expected. The solution of billing the Mayor for the police presence at his publicity stunt was an interesting outcome. Dylan Walsh was good as Mayor in this episode. He’s near the bottom of my Blue Bloods mayors list, but I liked him last night. I was also relieved that the Governor was merely mentioned but not seen. Eddie and Jamie’s storyline was just bad. As others mentioned above, Eddie continually steps way over the line in her role as a patrol officer, yet always seems to suffer no repercussions or negative consequences. (Contrast this with Erin’s storyline tonight where Erin lost a murder trial due to her own actions/decisions/omissions.) I fully agree with the poster above that Eddie should just take the detective test. This could even result in a storyline where Joe Hill (and not Danny) coaches her through detective exam prep. I would also welcome a well developed story where Jamie and Eddie go through an extended rough patch in their marriage as a result of what occurs in their work. Awkward family dinners (which have been fairly snoozeworthy as of late*) would be a twist for season 14.

My Speculation for Season 20: Hard reboot - maybe add a subtitle a la L&O, SVU, NCIS, etc. GA is a brand so the Grey’s name must be present somewhere even if now there are no Greys in the cast. Remaining regulars are MAGYK, Schmidt, Hunt and Altman. Bailey, Webber and A. Shepherd are moved to recurring; possibly Ndugu if he is promoted to Chief of Cardio. Otherwise, he goes to Chicago to join Pierce. Special appearances by Ellen Pompeo as Meredith Grey (2 or 3) Helm continues to recur as bartender at Joe’s More scenes will be at Joe’s in Season 20 New General Surgery and Peds chiefs hired. All the seminal GA stories are general, trauma, cardio and peds surgeries, so those two positions should be filled. Marsh either stays in current role with Residency Program, or perhaps becomes General Surgery chief. If not, character booted and goes to Boston. Both Wilson and Lincoln can profess their eternal love and leave the show. Wilson is no longer a surgeon, and GA is about surgery. I think GA is out of surgical stories for Linc. With Krista leaving as showrunner, it would not surprise me if Chris Carmack either exits on his own, or is written out.

There are hybrid communities. My mother lives in such a setting. There are duplexes as well as a high rise building with both assisted living and more traditional nursing apartments in the retirement compound. All residents of the community have access to the common areas, social activities, dining room, and so forth. My parents bought a duplex in their retirement community about 8 years ago. It’s like any other home other than panic buttons in the bathroom, etc. Since my father passed, the community’s format allows my mom more opportunities to socialize without moving into the assisted living building. But I agree; the storyline was unnecessarily confusing as to how and where Jules lives with an elder that she’s not related to.

Exactly this. There are multiple cameras all over Midtown, and the Times Square/Port Authority/ Bryant Park area in particular.

The pacing of this episode was bizarre. Danny's storyline was just didn’t seem to mesh with the others; while Erin’s was 99% resolved by mid episode. (But Anthony & Jack Boyle as a team? Hilarious in an otherwise sad yet minimal storyline) I thought Frank’s storyline was executed best. I was interested in how he’d resolve a novel situation (heroic officer posting an Only Fans style platform) given the staid NYPD Code of Conduct and Frank’s own rigid morality versus the current time and culture. Henry at family dinner was comedy gold. The Jamie/Eddie storyline had untapped potential. Again, this arc was victim of the 4 stories per episode format. I thought Sid subbing for Fleming, Jamie’s CO/boss was weird. Eddie being in the secret meeting room made no sense to me, and I still have trouble believing that Eddie has any close friends. (Recall that her only wedding guest was Rachel Witten and she had no bridesmaids.) The party-time resolution with Eddie’s old pal after the friend’s fiancé & future in-law being apprehended was not believable. I’m firmly in the “Jack Boyle makes Erin bearable” camp. I was glad Jack turned down Erin’s invitation to sexy times. Yes, we’ve seen this happen before, but usually it’s because Jack is seeing someone. I was waiting for it, but maybe Jack was putting his heart before gratification. I do think they are better together than apart. Then again, Peter Hermann (like Kate Walsh in Grey’s Anatomy) is an actor I’ve always enjoyed as a recurring character. He and Bridget Moynihan have chemistry.

Just did a rewatch of the two part ending of S3. Probably the best season ending until the two hour conclusion of S11. Kevin Wade wrote both season finales. The murder of Jamie’s partner Vinny Cruz in Part 1 and the shooting of Mayor Poole and the sweep of the Bittman Projects (with the Rolling Stones’ “Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker)”) in Part 2 made for compelling television. Part 1 had a flashback involving Danny’s early NYPD days that was pivotal to the plot. Frank, Danny and Jaime were integrated into a single storyline in a well balanced, sensible way. I honestly do not understand why for the last 5 or 6 seasons, there are 3 or 4 storylines in each episode that are not fully developed. Further, the precedent is there that a flashback can be utilized. Regular viewers like myself have craved a storyline with young Frank (and Mary) with teenaged Danny, Erin, Joe and a youngster Jamie. It could be done with the right writing. Of course, in S3 there is no Eddie or Anthony yet, and Sid is in the field, not at 1PP. Linda is alive, Nikki and Jack are still at Sunday dinner, and Sunday dinner seems more organic than than the expected episode ending we have in 90% of the shows now. It was refreshing to revisit after so many years. Bonus: in the last scene of the season 3 finale, Frank says to Linda that she must be a saint as she never complains about eating dinner with her in-laws every single week.

Looks like Sunday dinner. Must have an important relationship to Frank or the Reagan family.

As Meredith’s big send-off, this episode was entirely underwhelming. I enjoyed Zola and her scenes may have been the highlight for me. It was extremely disappointing that there was no meaningful exchange between Mere and Richard. That was a lost opportunity for the characters, for the show and for Krista. I liked the Amelia - Lucas “Aunt Amy” - “Shep” scene. That felt real as an interchange between a nephew and aunt who just want to set aside the familial relationship in favor of their respective professional identities. Every other point I would have made has already been made above. It makes sense to me to retitle the show (GA: TNG, anyone?) going forward or with season 20. Grey’s has been must-see TV for me since season 2. I have no issues with the new interns but I’m not engaged with them. I don’t care if Taryn Helm is the new Joe (who was a great recurring character, btw) or if she returns to Grey-Sloan as a senior resident, fellow or attending. I like Maggie and Winston but their issues are just silly. I care about that resolution as much as I do Owen and Teddy’s. And Teddy could be the new chief or not. I’m not dissing or abandoning the rebooted Grey’s, but I’m not compelled to watch it each Thursday night. I’ll catch up whenever.

I just created one since it’s been almost 24 hours since it’s aired on east coast.

Danny and Baez's investigation into the death of a chess hustler is complicated by interference from the victim's son; Jamie tries to make amends with a man he regrets putting away as a young officer.

Oh yeah, thanks for jogging my memory!

Four stories are always too many, but last night’s episode seemed to be more successful in telling each one. I probably enjoyed Danny and Baez most, even though I could have sworn they were homicide detectives. That final scene in the jewelry store was so much fun - even if you knew that no one was in danger. Danny and Baez looked fantastic in their “street clothes”. Frank had the ripped from the headlines story. The officer and the victim’s parents were played to perfection. Since this is Blue Bloods, I felt I knew the eventual outcome, but wasn’t certain. Sid was a good foil for Frank, and it’s nice to have a story where the Mayor is integral, yet you don’t see him. Erin’s arc was alright. I have to admit that this animosity between her and the DA seems comic book and annoying. It was right for the DA to reassign the case to Erin, but it seemed ridiculous to imply that the DA knew it was bad and only wanted to trip her up. Even I’m a city like NYC, resources are always stretched and you don’t have the luxury of staffing a bad case (or that the DA would put pettiness above their oath to seek justice). Anthony’s actions with the victim’s mother were also unbelievable in that he, too, was forcing Erin to proceed with the case, albeit it for different reasons. Jamie’s story was the least developed. It would have helped me follow it better if the two officers he was shadowing didn’t look so much alike. I was also concerned that Jamie would recommend Eddie for the position! Dinner table was mediocre. Eddie’s bits were somewhat silly and maybe what Nikki would have said were she still around. I didn’t think the epilogue with Frank, Henry, Danny & Jamie added much.

We finally watched this episode on Wednesday. A number of scenes were filmed (again) in our neighborhood. That conversation where Eddie meets up with the server/her partner’s ex was in a restaurant/bar called The Lowery - that’s really its name and I recommend it. I liked the Frank and Danny stories. While Eddie is more tolerable when she’s on the beat with a partner that is not Jamie, that story was unnecessary. The Jamie/Anthony/Erin story not much better than Jamie and the Chevelle vandalism. The dinner table was oddly placed and didn’t really add anything to the episode, imo.

Hmm. The interns: Millan /Adams /Griffith /Yasuda /Kwan = MAGYK Coincidence? I think not.

My take: it was alright. Not terrible, but it didn’t feel like “must-see tv”, either. The veteran cast seemed like guest stars (or in a few cases, cameos) in a pilot, and weren’t too successfully integrated with the new cast, imo. I thought only Amelia and Nick seemed to be future regulars in the cast. Everyone else from last year(s) was disposable and not really necessary for plot development. Meredith seemed like the MC/Cryptkeeper, in that she’s only needed to introduce and set the scene. Given that, it makes sense that Ellen Pompeo won’t necessarily be in all the episodes but continue to do voice overs. There were a lot of callbacks to MAGIC, seasons 1-3, which were okay but not enough to compel me to embrace the new direction and cast (Stop trying make MAGIC happen!) I loved Bokhee’s presence and line to the anesthesiologist. I also loved Bailey in braids (call back to The Time Warp episode where she was an intern, as well as that AU episode). Schmitt isn’t realistic as Chief Resident (by default). Owen and Teddy as the Bickersons were mildly amusing. (Let’s see if that storyline is further developed.) Everything else wasn’t terrible, and I don’t see any reason to hate watch as I did last season. I’ll give it a couple more shots.

My speculation: Henry dies early in the season. Frank retires at the end of the season. Also toward the end of the season, Danny meets someone (maybe someone we’ve met before) and decides he’s ready to begin a new relationship. We see him at Linda’s grave telling her that she’ll always be the love of his life, but he knows that she wants him to be happy again. Erin and Jack Boyle begin seeing each other during her campaign, after some questionable event which occurred while they were married comes to light as a smear tactic. Erin comes to Jack’s defense, and they finally realize they’re better together than apart. Despite this drama, Erin is elected DA. Jamie is promoted to lieutenant as a result of how he handled the trafficking case. He wants kids; Eddie doesn’t as she’s still sorting out where she wants to go in her NYPD career. There is friction for a couple episodes, but everything works out. Joe Hill legally changes his name to Joseph Reagan Hill. He becomes a regular at Sunday dinner. Despite her progressive leanings, we learn that Nicki has become quite financially independent & successful in cryptocurrency, blockchain and NFT. Nicki returns for her great grandfather’s funeral with her fiancée, a woman she met in Marin County. This causes some concern for Frank, but his pal the Archbishop is actually the one who leads Frank to see the error in his thinking. Eddie of course doesn’t understand why it’s such a big deal amongst the Reagans. Joe is happy to finally meet his cousin and bonds well with her and her wife-to-be. Jack Reagan starts law school in the City. We see him maybe two or three times in the season Sean Reagan takes the cadets exam and becomes a rookie at NYPD, some time before Frank retires. There will be two episodes with possible spin-offs - one where Anthony is the star, and the other a prequel set in the 70s about Frank’s early years. Guest stars/flashbacks: Previously unaired footage of Amy Carlson as Linda Reagan. Archbishop Kerns (Stacy Keach) ME Faith Marconi (Annabella Sciorra) She may be Danny’s new love. Reverend Darnell Potter (Ato Essandoh) Former NYC Mayor Carter Poole (David Ramsey) Rachel Witten (Lauren Patten), Eddie’s former partner. We see her socialize with Eddie as a way for Eddie to discuss some of the Reagan familial drama.

Contrasted with last season’s finale, this was underwhelming. Beginning with the lackluster PC vs DA setup, followed by Eddie & Badillo’s collar & release, my expectations for a great finale were dashed. But it was a good one due to the merging of Danny’s & Jamie’s stories linked by the always welcome Joe Hill. The Mano Sangrieta storylines always call back to Danny’s great loss of Linda, and his Reagan “family is everything” internal code. Will Hochman as Joe elevates Will Estes as Jamie. They’re a good pairing as actors. Joe Hill’s character helps us understand what the dynamic probably was amongst Danny, Joe Sr., and youngest brother Jamie. With Joe Hill admitting that he is a Reagan, I predict a legal name change to Joseph Reagan Hill in early season 12. This combined storyline kept me engaged, and I loved that Baez is adopting the baby. (I had predicted it’d be Jamie and Eddie, and I’m so happy to be wrong.) One thing that took me out of the story was the fact that the trafficked 14 year old Soli was a somewhat recent Central American refugee being held by Spanish speaking gangsters, yet she spoke with an American accent. Erin’s candidacy announcement was telegraphed to us from the start of the episode. Same with Anthony’s appearance at Sunday dinner to make it official. It would have been nice if Erin had prefaced her statement with “I just spoke with Nicki…”. I get that the actors who play Nicki Reagan-Boyle and Jack Reagan aren’t usually available, but c’mon - they are family (more so than Anthony), and afaik, have never met their cousin Joe Hill. Steven Schirripa was underutilized in that last scene other than to bring the meatballs. Overall, a C+ episode for the season. B+ for the major storyline.

Anyone else feel like this episode was a test run for Maggie stepping into the the titular “Grey” role, and Meredith as merely a recurring character? I didn’t mind this ep too much but it wasn’t really engaging. Seeing Owen fall back into his McScreamy role as chief was alright. I don’t like Jo but I somewhat like her paired with Skylar Astin’s character. (I also prefer her as an OBGYN resident, as she never seemed authentic as a surgeon.) And I’m okay with the investigation into the residency program. We already had Addison attempt to instill excellence into the residents earlier in the season. That didn’t take root, and we all know how successful the Webber method was(n’t).

Depends on your profession. If you carry a badge, your employer would find out about it, as there would be a police report even if no charges were filed. Some positions in government or regulated professions have a mandatory duty of self-disclosure. If you don’t report the incident, you can be disciplined or terminated for failure to report. I’ve mentioned before that I was an ADA in a large U.S. city (but not NYC). After I was hired, but before I was sworn in, an ADA was pulled over for suspicion of driving under the influence. He refused a breathalyzer (which was his right) yet his badge was pulled and he was terminated for his failure to blow. My point is that it’s not unusual for a law enforcement position to have harsher penalties for certain non-criminal conduct than most other jobs in the real world.

As a former ADA, I have to say that was one of the worst depictions of a criminal jury trial I’ve seen on television. IIRC, the vic either abused the defendant or the defense counsel (as a child), so when the defendant shot him it was to stop the abuse. The #1 rule of prosecuting is “know what your witness will say”. If Erin is as savvy a prosecutor that we are led to believe she is, then she would know that her boss would jump on any chance to discredit her. The judge was awful, even for television. Yes, this episode was corny, but it was definitely better. Any time we get Joe Hill added to the Regan mix, it’s a better ep. And I wish TPTB would stop trying to make Eddie, like fetch, happen. A fourth story with Eddie as the lynchpin is one story too much. I would have been more satisfied with just the Danny/Jamie & Frank/Joe Hill stories, tbh.

I was thinking “Erica Hahn”, but otherwise yes. This episode was dreadful.

I appreciate what the cast is doing with lackluster plots this season, including this episode. Last season was mostly good, ending on a high note. This season so far is C minus, including the current episode. The scene in the “Bedford Houses” where Sean was clocked by a perp was shot in my neighborhood in mid September. My problem with that ride along storyline, and most of the other storylines in this 12th season, is poor writing with lack of continuity. Long time viewers remember Nicki’s ride along. That should have been referenced by Danny, Erin, or Jamie in some way to admonish Sean. Just bringing back and dropping in a familiar face (Treat Williams as Lenny, for instance) for an episode does not create continuity. The writing should somehow reflect that storytelling is often informed by the characters’ history. Anyone could have offered Frank the NFL position. If there was a specific reason it was Lenny - and not some rando - then the script was so weak that I missed the reason. My sense is that most of us watch the show because we like the generational aspect of the show, and the Reagan family (or most of them, most of the time). Families have their stories and when they are told well (like Joe Hill’s storyline last season) it can create deeper engagement for the type of people who enjoy that type of plot structure. Character consistency and relationships are being set aside for moving the story along. There should be a payoff for the viewers’ continued viewing. Otherwise, why not watch any other procedural?

This season finale reminded me a lot of the Season 11 finale, where Richard & Catherine have an aborted wedding, eventually do get married, and the cast (highlighting the “sisters”) dances it out in the end. IIRC, that episode was also written as a potential series finale. Gerlie’s story was excellent, and I loved both Bailey and Meredith in this arc. Chris McCormack and Caterina Scorsone portrayed Linc and Amelia so well all season long. They did not disappoint in this episode, even if their storyline took a disappointing turn. Hate ‘em or hate ‘em, Owen and Teddy have always seemed to be endgame, so why not another engagement/presumed marriage? I like Maggie and Winston, and Richard made a fantastic wedding officiant. The Jo/Luna story was just not realistic - even for Grey’s. I could have done without Jo getting Jackson’s penthouse in order to have a suitable abode for the baby. I agree with all of the criticisms above w/r/t this storyline. In all, well directed & well edited but otherwise not that good as any sort of finale.

This episode was underwhelming. Lots of “blink & they’re gone” moments throughout the hour. It started well (Jackson & Charles Pearcy in the elevator with Alex) but very little about Jackson’s send-off/ Meredith’s discharge kept me engaged. I agree with the posts above that the vintage Grey’s footage could have been utilized more effectively. I liked the patients-of-the-week stories. It’s shocking that this show is set in Seattle and this most likely is the first story centered on indigenous people. But other than some bizarre comments by Tom, I felt both stories were respectfully presented. Speaking of Tom, that was the worst write-off since Callie decided to up and leave Seattle for NYC. Truly bad dialogue. I believe Tom Koracick wants to do better but to say “I want to be an ally” to a POC is just lame writing. Owen and Teddy may be my least favorite Grey’s couple, but their lust seemed in character for them both. We knew it was going to happen. It was just a matter of time. Meredith’s reunion with her children and Amelia was really nice. The sense of family felt genuine without any reference to “sisters”. And whether or not it was rude to do so, I’d secretly escape a clap-out, too, if I knew I was finally returning home to my family. I probably missed some details of the episode, but it was just so low-energy Maybe had they eliminated some of the smaller stories (Helm/Schmidt, for example) and focused more on Jackson’s exit leaving Meredith the last one standing of their residency class, it would have been more compelling.