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Pretty sure it's some version of Section 8 housing in Bradenton where they bought and "refurbished" (barely, maybe just renamed) one of the old dumpy no-tell motels. I was sure, for the first 10 minutes or so of the show, that we'd see a "the actor playing the part of Russ this season is Johnny Bagoballs." I can't believe it's the same person. How could normally reasonably intelligent Chantal not have asked in advance at that Fed Ex packing store "can you give us an estimate as to how much will it COST to ship this TV to the Dominican Republic?" And could they simply not get a good take of that clerk not smirking?

When we got married, it was during Lionel Richie's heyday ... we went to one of those wedding band showcases out on Long Island and EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM performed "All Night Long." By the end of that night, we put that on our "DO NOT PLAY!" list for our wedding LOL! Our first dance was to "Creepin'" by Stevie Wonder but we had two backups in case the band couldn't learn it (they did, and they KILLED on it!) ... we probably would have gone with "All This Love" by DeBarge. ETA: Apologies to our patient mod ... I realize now in retrospect this convo should have probably been in Small Talk!

LAST QUESTION before we go back to 4W ... what WAS your first dance? I always love to know!

"Or if you can't make it, here's our address where you can send the check!" LMAO ... And I've never even heard of a "money dance" and am almost afraid to google it ... have they done them on 4W and I've missed it? (I record batches of them and then let them work as visual Ambien, usually falling asleep somewhere between the tacky strut and the "MY wedding is going to BLOW THEM AWAY!" speech).

OMG ... I think you may have just given me a great rabbit hole to spend a few hours in!!! Thank you so much, and ditto thank you for the good wishes ... I'm just waiting to hear what they decide and look forward to a fun party (open bar! great food! dancing! no theme! nothing blan!) and moreso to my daughter having found incredible happiness and joy with an amazing guy. I suspect it will be quirky and fun, like them. ETA: Hubby is a musician and is just happy to go to a wedding where he DOESN'T have to play "At Last" again. Or play at all (pay, now that's another story!) Busman's holiday.

Gotcha. As I said, I was not necessarily agreeing or disagreeing, just trying to clarify. And I guess it's different strokes for different folks and nothing is right or wrong (or if it is, according to Emily Post or whomever, then ... whatevs!!!) ... I will say this is the first time I've ever heard that listing where someone is registered is such a no-no ... I guess I can see in some circles why it would be considered "tacky" but personally ... again, just me ... I'd find it convenient instead of having to hunt around to figure out where couple is registered, or IF they are ... I know money is always good but if there are THINGS they might like to set up their household, then I'd be happy to fill that gift list for them! But I guess that's just me. In some cases, especially now that I am old, I can't ask someone's relatives. I may not know them, they may not be alive, whatever. I'm glad it is so easy for everyone else to "find" people's registries at Target, BBB, C/B. I'd personally love to have a big honking red arrow pointing "this way to the registry!" for me, I can have fun browsing the stuff, picking something out that suits my budget and that maybe they'll think of us when they use them, put in a credit card number and not have to worry (or forget). And yes, 35 years after my marriage, we still have items we use that make me think of the people who bought them for us FROM OUR TACKY-ASS REGISTRY LOL that I was pressured into by my aunt who is an old-fashioned stickler for the "rules" so I guess the rules changed somewhere over 35 years or else there are different versions of them (though we also, as mentioned, still have some gorgeous china and silver that have NEVER been used because we don't entertain, something that never occurred to my aunt -- or me for that matter -- when we went on the registry store visit ... I was still kind of stunned and just let her handle everything.) Meanwhile, back to good clean PTV fun snarking on others instead of continuing to out myself as a classless cretin LOL who is one step away from calling the food B-L-A-N bland. All that said, I do not expect DD and her fiance to register for anything. Right now, just waiting for them to pick a venue and set the date so my husband can take "summer/fall of 2019" off of his "hold" dates for booking gigs for himself.

My bad! I thought a "honeyfund" was a generic term for couples registering for or hoping for items for their honeymoon as opposed to registering at, say, a department store. I hadn't realized there was an actual company, Honeyfunds, that did this! But I agree that money is always an acceptable gift! (Throw money! I'm going to change the name of this album to "Throw Money" ... okay, name that album!) On the occasions these days that we are invited to weddings, if the couple has actively registered and there's something cool on the list that we'd like to provide (or we know them well enough to have an idea -- my favorite fallback gift that many people don't have but I have found I use way more than I should is an ice-cream maker!), that's great (I mean, I'm not really a fan of buying, say, three towels). But these days at our age most of the weddings we go to are for kids of our friends (or even grandkids of our friends) ... the last wedding we attended (and actually traveled halfway across the country for), not only had I never met the bride or the groom but when we got the invitation I had NO IDEA who it was. I thought it had been misaddressed! It even took my husband a few minutes to figure out it was the son of his friend's girlfriend. Interesting responses re: what gifts constitute tacky or not ... not judging at all because to each his own but just wondering where the line is drawn that registering for specific gifts is NOT tacky, and NOT registering for anything, thereby probably subtly suggesting "just give us money" is NOT tacky, but registering for something that is a non-tangible gift equals asking for money and therefore IS tacky?

IMDB says May 23 and the link to the post that said May 30 has been taken down so maybe it was an error they caught (from HERE lol) and it's being fixed? Hope so. Do NOT want to wait two weeks for next episode. I have no life.

I don't remember a third girl, and I'm guessing that we would have seen this in the scene where Mere and Zozo have their "moment," but is it possible it was Ellis? Was the third girl a flower girl or just another kid? If "just another kid" it might have been producer's niece LOL. Can't remember how old Ellis would be but if old enough wouldn't she also be at the wedding even if not a flower girl? Also ... again, sorry to not remember exact details, but were Matthew and April volunteering at just random homeless shelters as needed or did they work out of a single spot and travel from there? Because I thought (and may be misremembering) that somewhere in this episode in passing April implied that wherever they were working tied into one of the possibilities discussed on this board in speculation, that she and Matthew would work together at a/the clinic or shelter that is far enough away for her to no longer be part of the regular Grey's cast but close enough to not affect Jackson's presence both on the show and as active part of Harriet's life. Finally, I had NEVER warmed to Jo ... until this episode. She finally won me over. Hoping that the sabbatical does not mean the absence of Bailey next season. She and the Chief remain my favorite characters. And one last query ... how old was Leo when Owen adopted him? Was it just me or does he look a lot older than, say, last week's episode? I know there was about a one-month or so time jump based on Betty's 30-day sobriety chip but it seemed like it might have been longer than that. OR ... all kinds of smart. If indeed she a) wanted a baby and b) wanted Owen back.

I wondered about that briefly but before the final scene with him, she'd said something to the effect of "You'll hear from them next week and they'll give you all the details" or something along those lines ... so assuming had the shit not hit the fan as it did and she got everything she wanted with no drama, he'd just be sitting there waiting for his phone to ring ... and waiting ... and waiting ... Re: The "TV cheating on our husbands," Mr. Snappy and I had to come to an amicable separation for the last few episodes (though perhaps we'll get back together for the final final final episode) because he works nights and then comes home and watches it around 1 a.m. when I am LONG since asleep ... I watch it generally the next morning/afternoon. And he has to not tell me anything and this episode he was ready to spontaneously combust waiting for me to watch it (which took an extra day). Finally, I was a little surprised that Elizabeth did not take the painting that looked the most like HER to avoid possible identification down the line ... still not sure why she burned it, hesitated, and then burned it full on (and why the smoke detector didn't go off but that's my internal firephobe/homeowner speaking) ... also, that painting haunted me all season because it looked so much like my late stepmonster-in-law may she rest in a total lack of peace.

THANK YOU! Damn my memory. I knew Rita had had them but I couldn't remember if June had taken them or not ...

From the epic recap: "He's been thinking a lot about the management training program at McIlraith, and has decided it could be really great for him, and get him out of Marietta." Thank you SO much for pulling out this quote because I thought he said it would get him out of his Marriott and all I could think was "Who would want to leave a Marriott???"

I did, but it was much earlier in my pregnancy ... just a little over a month ... was sure I'd lost or was losing the baby but Little Snappy hung in there and turned out just awesome. So a few things/questions ... When Fred first talks to the bigger muckety-muck (can't remember his name, but the general, I guess?) about Nick, he's trying to have him "promoted" and reassigned, right? Out of jealousy, obviously (and the general seems to figure that out immediately and that is a moment where I think we get the feeling that maybe Fred's in a more tenuous position than we might have realized) ... but I thought I heard him saying something about sending him to Washington for a better position? Since we know that basically Washington no longer exists as a center of government operations, did I mis-hear? Misunderstand? Did anyone else catch that? Also, if Nick as a guardian (even one in high standing) would only qualify with his virgin/Gilead-bred-to-bear-fruit wife only qualify as high as econofamilies, is there a stratification of econofamilies within that designation? Or are they on the exact same level as Omar and his family was/were? It would seem to me that the guardians who work directly with/for the Commanders and their wives would be in a higher position than, say, guys who drive the bread trucks or sell fishes and loaves. Given, especially, the concerns about sterility and the continuation of the regime, and the fact that it's tough for the Commanders and their wives to have kids, would they be worried enough about "their line" dying off that perhaps the very best most trusted guardians can eventually be promoted to commanders, and by having Gilead-indoctrinated virgin child brides, those girls have been selected as the best possible future Commanders' wives? SOMEONE has to run the show down the line and we haven't seen many young sons, and those that they have would be too young to become Commanders as this line dies off (since the Commanders are mostly older men). I'd think there needs to be a middle line of select potential commanders between the current ones and their offspring. Finally, when June sees the bundle of letters tucked behind the bathtub, we have to assume they were put there specifically for her to see, I assume by Rita. I worry for Rita.

That's why I hope not BUT that said you are probably right ... I think he's been really awesome in his role and I love how he's been the catalyst for Mina (and hopefully Mina and Micah) ... but Austin is such a ... larger-than-life? ... character, I just can't see him sustaining his vibe for an entire season ... because I really have fallen in love with this show, I am PRAYING they cut him loose now with his having used his powers for good, LOL, and not letting it get more heavy-handed. I LOVED their scene together. I loved their both showing emotions and soft hearts deep down and tears. And now it's time for him to go. And for her to be with Micah. JMO.

I absolutely freaking LOVED this episode and am SO glad we don't have to wait TOO long for S2 (this fall!) ... interested to see which of the recurrings (vs. regulars) return. I have a feeling that Dr. Theo (ha! to whoever coined that) may not be back because it seems like his character really reached its pinnacle in that scene with Okafor. I thought that was a fabulous scene, by the way. I want more Micah and more Mina/Micah cuteness. I confess to never having been that huge a Logan fan as a GG fanatic but Matt C has absolutely and completely won me over here ...

SO excited we don't have to wait like eight months for S2 ... I confess to being a HUGE fan of this show. Will be interested to see if they add any of the guest recurrings to the new cast ... fingers crossed for more Micah please. I'm guessing that we've probably seen the last of MJW though ... I thought he was awesome but think after the season finale his role may have run its course and he'll go out on a high note. Has there been any word on cast for S2 now that they've announced it?

I am not sure if you posted something along these lines a little ways back or someone else did but I found it INCREDIBLY enlightening as far as how they pick the location ... I always wondered about that because I figured the honeymoon HAD to already be planned and paid for before the wedding so what happened if they won another honeymoon ... This also makes me wonder even more because ... well, do they pick their quartet of couples based on people who had all chosen the same location for their honeymoon? Or is there some television magic going on where they announce the "winner" AFTER they know who won and they've already paid for the honeymoon so they can retrofit the winner card ... because they ALMOST always give away the location AND the hotel early on when they show the "super romantic resort prize" and 9 out of 10 times it shows the name of the hotel (free advertising has to be part of the deal) but they DID NOT do that with the Moroccan trip ... they showed a hotel but no ID as to where it was (for all I know it wasn't even in Morocco). And I've never seen another bride say "Hey, what a coincidence, that's where WE'RE going on OUR honeymoon!" So if anyone is still reading this post ... just want to throw this out there out of curiosity to FW and other bridal show fans ... thoughts on a Honeyfund? I think it's a very cool idea, especially in this day and age where so many couples have been living together for so long they already have pretty much everything they want/need for their household so why register for "stuff"? I know a lot of people will give checks or cash, always welcome, but some people don't really want to do that and would rather donate to something specific and special ... my aunt, who is pushing 80 (and because my mom was not alive she took over the "mother of the bride duties" with VERY different tastes and upbringing than I had and basically sort of velvet-glovedly made me register for all this china and silver when I got married that I HAVE NEVER USED EVER EVER EVER 35 years later!!!) thinks it's just tacky and tasteless and she'd rather just give money. But I know some "Honeyfunds" even include cool things the couple might want to do that a guest could contribute to (bike riding on volcano at sunrise or whatever) and I think it's nice that the couple can think of said givers when they do it (and can personalize the thank you card a little more, maybe with photos or whatever). I know that Little Snappy has been living with her beyonce (boyfriend/almost fiance) for two or three years now (I'm bad with time passage) and though they have a smallish apartment, they don't really NEED china or silver or anything, at least not until they buy a house a few years down the line. So not sure if they'll register, but I know that registries DO make things a little easier for guests. Okay. I'll stop babbling now. Tornado warning expired, thunderstorms making house rumble, gonna go bathe the dog and then pour a glass of wine and watch a few more FW reruns!

"Zey were just doing their JOBZ!" Man, what people will whore themselves out for for ... what? Have we determined that TLC or whoever it is actually ends up paying for "Phillintheblank's cozy and cute I'm Such A Dork Wedding with 800 guests for $25,000"? Or is it just the free honeymoon? Other than that, what if anything DOES the couple get out of this other than permanent shaming on the internet as the show continues on in eternal reruns? It would be so interesting to go back to some of the most embarrassing (if they even realize it) brides and ask if they'd do it again knowing now what they didn't know then. BTW, I was going NUTS last night watching "... and a Chocolate Handcuff" with four Chicago brides from about 2011 or so. One of the brides, Erika -- German (didn't look especially Germanic) who did the German dances to "incorporate" something to set her apart -- looks SO SO SO SO SO familiar that I couldn't figure out if a) she looks exactly like someone famous, b) she's a reality show whore and I've seen her on something else, or c) I actually know her. She was actually very likable though she finished last. Okay, better go back to listening to the tornado warnings in my neighborhood. Far enough to not be in the basement yet, close enough that I better stay close to the computer with the local news radio streaming JUST to be safe.

Oh BLAN yes ... though for me, maybe because I'm binge watching, I find the most cringeworthy part is during the snippets where they introduce us to each bride, sometimes they'll have them doing these astoundingly awkward little struts or something to show their "personality" ... musical-lover who had the cold pizza and warm soda and the combined brides' 18 kids under age of 5 was a particular "offender" IIRC as she repeatedly did some little shuffle-ball-step that had me literally squirming with second-hand embarrassment (it was beginning of show so I hadn't yet discovered what a delusional twit she was in which case it might have been more schadenfreude)

I never assumed anything BUT this ... didn't there used to be a time (like, a long long time, maybe still) where most if not all of the Grey's episode titles were actual song titles?

If they DON'T do this, they need to hire Pallas as a writer for next season.

Based on what little I read about how Season 3 will go, I suspect (and like you hope) that that is what S3 will be ... I won't go into detail here because there is a separate thread for the book for viewers who do not want to be spoiled but that brief epilogue (which some people don't even read because they don't realize it's still part of the narrative) could absolutely support an amazing season. Some questions are unanswered and would certainly be addressed in "new" content (via Atwood and company) but others that are posited in this thread alone are very definitely answered and should make for fantastic episodes.

Thank you!!!

Am I misremembering or didn't we already see the mom alive (and more wrinkled and sun-worn and blonde) in the Colonies in the earlier episode when Ofglen is sent there? So while June doesn't know, WE'VE known not only that she was sent there but that in fact she is still alive (or at least alive when Ofglen was shipped out -- wouldn't that be significantly more recently than the scene in which June and Moira see the film?) Or again I may be mixing up what happened when in my befuddled brain. ETA because I posted this while I was reading P3 and it is brought up and discussed here on P4 ... I will go back and check but I had thought we caught a glimpse of a woman I THOUGHT was June's mom in the Colonies with Ofglen working in the field ... NOT the woman in the shot linked above where they're standing together ... and I believe I asked about that in that episode discussion thread and that someone confirmed it was her mom. That said, it could ABSOLUTELY have been the woman (not-mom) in that other photo next to her but in a different scene.

You guys were right ... the names were all "new to me" but now that I could see full info (which wasn't visible when I was hitting the little orange R button) they all seem to be jumbled from 2010 through 2013. S5 is available on demand but for some reason we're having issues with our "on demand" and I have no idea how to fix it so have to wait for hubby to be home and actually have a reason of his own to want to fix it LOL. ETA: The rerun I saw last night was where there was definitely IMHO a shocker winner ... the Orthodox Jewish couple with the Moroccan theme and the belly dancing (I am convinced that for all the emphasis put on ways the others can't "downvote their competition," the other three brides all thought she was the obvious loser and so each one put her first as a way to downgrade the other two and ... boom) ... anyway, just in case there had been ANY doubt ... their surprise destination was ... MOROCCO? Yeah. They all have their honeymoons already planned and it just gets paid for by the show. I bet the show was agonizing about having to lay out for those tickets.