DearEvette

For me the twins are so far the most twee part of the show. But one thing I a liking and hope it continues is that they are breaking out their personalities a bit. The son is sweet and gullible, but the daugter is a bit of a devil. I liked that little bit of development. It moves them from being generic plot moppets and makes me think they can break out and become viable characters on their own.

I agree with this so much. I love Abbie. She's the reason I watch. She is smart and resourceful, this is shown time and time again in the show. Unfortuantely, I think Abbie's steady good sense and smarts gets lost amongst the more showy aspects of Ichabod's nature. And I think the writers are doing her a disservice by letting her forgive Ichabod so easily. She let him off too easily with the map and now again, against her better judgement she gave in to him when it came to the Kindred. Ichabod wanting to resuce Katrina makes sense. He has only been separate from his wife for something like six months. So it would seem odd that given the possibility her rescue he wouldn't attempt it. I can't bring myself to like Katrina, but that doesn't mean that I don't understand why Ichabod acts the way he does. I don't like it, but I understand it. And for the record, I think Ichabod is an arrogant asshole sometimes, sexy blue eyes and a dreamy British accent doesn't blind me to his faults. But Abbie does not have to fall in line. I need the real conflict to come not just because of Katrina or Henry's machinations, but because Abbie is simply not having it. I need to see her holding him accountable and I need for it to not just blow over because he cajoles her to his side.

I think the Sheriff is the human adversary. Henry, imo, represents another type of foe that The Witnesses have to face, and not just because he is War, but because he is Ichabod's son. Abbie has already expressed her doubts about Ichabod's resolve when it comes to doing what they have to do. What is he willing to sacrifice? Right now, the object of her unease in Katrina because we have already seen that when it comes to her Ichabod just doesn't think. But what about when it comes to Henry/Jeremy? We are already seeing how Katrina is trying to win over Henry. I don't think her motives for staying with Abraham is just so she can be a mole, I think she is also trying to stay in Henry's orbit so she can salvage him. And I strongly suspect that when/if she gets freed she's gonna try to convince Ichabod that Henry isn't an enemy to try defeat but rather their son to try to reconnect with. Obviously Abbie will not be on board with this because to her is another Horseman, that's it. He must go down! So who does Ichabod side with? The wife he seems to have no rationality about? Or the partner that constantly tries to keep him on task? So by his very existence Henry is a wedge that can be driven between the Witnesses. And in doing so he is creating dissension, just like he is supposed to in ways small and large. I think in that sense he is a more than just a human adversary but an emotional and psychological one for Abbie and Ichabod.

I liked this better than the pilot also. It feels like opening night jitters have settled down some. Anthony Anderson felt more comfortable in the character, the jokes landed better and everyone was deployed really well. I also liked how they constructed the personalities of the family members so that it made the plot feel richer. For instance, Dre and Pops were given a very specific family character trait (buttoned up , wearing shoes inthe house, wearing a tee-shirt in the pool etc.) whereas Rainbow is a little free-er. So the whole towel gag worked great and had referential meaning later on. Another thing was I like how it took a couple of old hoary tropes and managed not to make them feel tiresome. The clueless dad giving the kid a sex talk is old, but instead of mkaing Andre embarrassed, they made him so happy to have someone to talk about he over-shared. The whole montage of him telling about all his feelings during his masturbating was hysterical. The lunch lady, tater tots, and the Helen Mirren line took it into slam dunk territory. Also, I like that they didn't make Rainbow this all wise mom. Her slef congratulations at how awesome she was each time the daughter was talking was great. I said it last week but Tracee Ellis Ross is a natural comedienne. Her comic delivery and facial expressions are fab!

The more I think of it, the more I think Reyes has got to be a minion. Possibly related to war? She knows Mama Mills and it seems more and more likely that Mama Mills was somehow bound up in all this. While Death was busy going around killing people and dispensing death, War's purpose needs to be to sow the seeds to dissension to create an atmosphere where that dissension can spread into open conflict. Reyes seems to be walking right up that alley. She really, really has it out for Irving and it feels out of proportion. He could possibly get out of jail based on the basis of that shaky confession, but it would be harder to win back to trust and confidence of cops if he was exposed as being a crazy man. In he role as captain she has control of he police force and she has Iriving out of the way. Also by putting him in the mental hospital she makes Henry's swoop in and save tactics looks very attractive to Irving. Hence his eagerness to sign with Henry, contract un-read. It also appears that she is trying to drive a wedge between Abbie & Jenny by being Bad-Cop with Jenny and Good-Cop with Abbie. The sisters' reconnection is so new and still a little fragile, just the right amount of pressure at the right point to cause a rift in Team Witness. And finally she is trying to sideline Ichabod. He has no place really. No status. His position is very precarious and very dependent on Abbie on many ways. She strikes me as being in a very good place to be a soldier for Moloch. Meanwhile, the more I think of Katrina's mole plans the more skeptical I am. I mean, her first attempt at surreptitious overhearing was immediately discovered. a nd really, her effectiveness as a mole depends 100% on Abraham's guillibilty. All this time she has been protesting her love for Ichabod and in two seconds she claims that she's willing to switch allegiances to Abraham if he just gives her more time? For a guy who went for the jugular by reminding her that Ichabod was awfully quick to rescue Abby, such obtuseness doesn't feel right. And, just how does Katrina expect to get intel to Ichabod and Abbie in case she finds out something? I am trying not to let my indifference to the character color my reactions, but trying to deploy Katrina in this way feels awfully like fan service. it feels clunky and contrived. As long as she is in Headless' clutches she remains in imminent danger. And we've already seen she can't seem to resuce herself. All it would take is Headless saying "Fuck this noise, let's get in the RIng Of Fire!' and she wouldn't be able to do anything to stop it. At least if she had left with Ichabod and Abbie she could have tried some witchy way to help them. The writing for her just continues to baffle me.

So....another Mills sister ends up imprisoned after a plan to save Katrina? I'm sensing a pattern here. I love how Jenny was just so disgusted with the plan like she was the first time around. The little looks she and Abbie shared were great. Nicole and Lyndie have great sisterly chemistry. I think having Katrina try to be a mole is a step in the right direction to get her character to do something useful for the team. But I thought Abbie reassuring Ichabod about it in the end felt like a hard-sell to us about her usefulness. Once again we are being told something about her, not just letting in play out. I have been willing to give Katia Winter the benefit of the doubt attributing a lot of my problems with Katrina on the writing, but damned if it didn't feel like she was just saying the words. I needed something more there to suck me in and she just wasn't giving it to me.. OTOH, the little snippets we get of Abbie's creeping doubt about Ichabod and his motives were great. She right to question him and I loved her line about him being her greatest weakness. She in it for the big picture, but can she truly trust that he is too? I am cutting the new sheriff a little slack despite the fact I want to hate her, but I thought she came out a little too gangbusters. She seemed to laser focus on each of our heroes and it felt like overkill. But she seems to have a soft spot for Abbie. Hmmm....

Interestingly, I feel that by making her a Quaker Activist! (sorry that needed an Exclamation point) and a Witch Spy! (another exclamation point) that the show is trying to say she was an independent woman who was not held to those traditional gender role standards. But weirdly is still managing to fail at convincing me because her importance on a meta-level, strictly as a character in this show, feel completely tied up with her marriage. I can't help but wonder would viewers care as much about her if she wasn't married to Ichabod? It almost feels at times that the sphere of his charisma sweeping her along, as it were. Whereas all the other characters are carving their own place all on their own.

He hasn't had time to care, not the same thing as not caring. He's been so busy adjusting to his role as Witness, dodging Demons-of-the-week and trying to get Katrina out of Purgatory he simply didn't have the luxury to wallow on that. But according to Goffman et. al, Katrina's less that forthcoming ways will be an issue for him in upcoming episodes. I too hope it doesn't become an isue of him going into a Woobie melt-down. But I do think it would be odd to have all her lies of omission hand waved away especially given how they've tried to position the Cranes as Love's Young Dream. Re the necklace: I agree with @HalcyonDays, think it is a duplicate that Abraham had re-done for her. Which begs the question? Why did Ichabod have it still? I mean, it was a gift from Abraham (yeah, Ichy picked it out, but still it was bought by Abe), why would Katrina hold onto it after she kicked Ol' Abe to the curb? re: Katrina/Katia: Katrina's character is an underwritten mess. She is elevated to importance in the overall scheme of things because of who she is (Ichabod's wife) not because of anything she has done. Frankly, she has not earned my liking either from a character standpoint or an acting standpoint. She's just there. In a very real way, Katrina is the very thing Nicole Beharie said that she is glad Abbie isn't --- a woman character largely defined by her romantic entanglement. Because truly, up to this point the only reason to actually care about Katrina is in her role as Ichabod's wife. If the writers really want her to carve out her own place in the group -- the way Ichabod, Abbie, Irving, Jenny, and yes, even John Cho, has -- then they need to make her viable as her own person. The chemsitry of the group so far is really good. I am a bit nervous about her inclusion because for the life of me I can't see what she really does bring to the table? My fear is that in trying to shoe-horn her into the group dynamic it dulls the impact of the Abbie/Ichabod dynamic. Which would be catastrophic since they are the fulcrum by which the show turns. I can only hope the writers do have something for her that doesn'ts mess up Ab/Ich and that Katia can rise to the acting challenge. So far we have very little to judge her and it is difficult to know if the woodeness she sometimes displays is because of the writing or because of the acting.

I had never heard of Felicia Day before so I had no opinion of her positive or negative. I didn't mind her when she first appeared on Eureka. She seemed fine as a guest star. But then it felt like her presence seemed to cannibalize the show. She became way too special for me. I can't watch any of her episodes now. I don't like the Jeri Ryan episodes of Leverage. For me, she threw off the chemistry of the group. I was so happy when Gina Bellman came back. I can't re-watch the Bones episode where Vince Nigel-Murray gets killed. He was my favorite squintern. And I was sooo bummed. I wish they had killed Daisy instead as she was my least favorite. I don't really like clip shows, but I loved the 'Paradigms of Human Memory' episode of Community. It was a clip show of things that never actually happened on the show. I remember thinking to myself...'wait... I don't remember that...." until I realized it was new footage packaged like a clip show. Now it is one of my favorite epsiodes.

I head canon that everybody but Ichabod knew he was a Witness -- Washington, Katrina, The Right Reverend Knapp, etc -- and they were prepping him for his destiny and he was starting to put stuff together, but he got killed before they could really tell him anything. I think they tried to get him info via the Masons, but we saw how that turned out. Regarding Katrina, it is so difficult to speculate about her at all because even though she was present all last season, she was basically just a plot device and a mode of delivering exposition. Because she has been presented as so many things -- Quaker! Spy! Witch! Freedom Fighter! and she's been in purgatory for over 200 years -- they could literally write her any way they please at this point and it would not necessarily contradict anything that has gone before. She can be written just as she looks on the surface, a loving wife who wants to help her husband and his witness partner stop the Apocalypse. Which would be so boring! Or is she something else? I mean, 200 years in a very twisted place are unaccounted for. A lot could have happened then.

Yup there were a few things they did in the 'previouslies' that hadn't happened yet. There was one of Abbie underwater with Ichabod reaching out to her. Of course it makes me wonder about the time jump fake-out. Will we really get some version of that as reality at the end of the season?

I agree with the earlier comment about the sly humor. I enjoyed this because they managed to sneak in some very clever lines, not necessarily LOL, but witty. Tracee Ellis Ross is fantastic. I loved her in Girlfriends so I am sooo happy to see her again. For me she was the MVP. She is a natural comedienne and her line delivery is excellent. I wasn't bothered by AA him calling her 'half-black; or whatever. My husband is white (I am black) and I always tease him about his 'white man tears' whenever he complains about things that frankly he shouldn;t be. He's usually very smart about cultural nuances, it is his profession, but one in awhile his privilege shows. I think there is an intimacy with your partner where you can joke about sensitive things that wouldn't go over well otherwise. Laurence Fishburne comes in a close second. I think he gets the 'curmudgeonly, wryly observant grandfather' role just right without letting it go into caritcature. The older son is great. And the oldest daughter -- looked so familiar. I also think they struck just the right tone with her. That is exactly how a kid would be at that age. Also, I remember the actress from the movie 'Butter' with Jennifer Garner. She was good in that. Strangely enough, Anthony Anderson seemed the more problematic part. He seemed like he was working too hard to deliver the character. The effect was that it came off as frenetic rather than relaxed. He had this really great line: 'Heretoforth, we'll keep it real." That line encapsualtes his entire dilemma, the pretension of the upper class bourgoisie with the word 'heretoforth' juxtaposed with the urban argot 'keep it real.' But Anderson rushed the line and it didn't land with the punch it should have. Anyway, I enjoyed the show. And yeah, I want to know more about Rainbow.

Yup. I noticed this. He borrowed Abbie's phone in the penultimate episode. But at the beginning of the finale he had his 'obsolete' flip phone back.

Ok, so on rewatch, I notice that when Henry gives Jenny the adrenaline shot in the warehouse, he mentions "you sister and my father." In true Jenny fashion she doesn't blink because, well, a Bad Ass wouldn't give away anything. But Jenny hadn't been privy to the fact that Henry was Jeremy and thus Ichabod's son. That reveal happened after Abbie was already in Purgatory and Jennie was trying (unsuccessfully) to contact them to let them know Henry was not on their side. I just thought it was odd, even in the parameters of Sleepy Hollow's Batshittery, that it was presented as fact that she'd be aware of this and even being shown later by even a look of surprise that this was a weird development. I mean, we all freaked out when we found out.

Nice interview with Mark Goffman here http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/22/sleepy-hollow-season-2_n_5862476.html?utm_hp_ref=maureen-ryan (there are some mild spoilery bits). I especially loved this line: Very gratifying to know they continue to acknowledge that the heart of the show is the Abbie/Crane partnership.

This would make some sense except for the fact that all of season one, the way they presented the power of witches, this was not evident. The Reverend simply said incantations, Serilda too. She came back to wreak her revenge and was killing people left and right with her powerful witchiness. The Coven also seemed to work with just incantations and of course they showed Katrina poofing from Europe to America in a puff of smoke, again just on the power of an incantation. What would make more sense,imo, would be if all her years in Purgatory did mess up her powers somehow. It would actually make her interesting and give her a plot outside of just being Ichabod's wife (let's face she has no other identity at this point). If she had to come to terms and struggle with the idea that she is no longer as powerful as she once was it could give her something to work with. That would be a bit of a blow since being able to twitch your fingers and get what you want has to be a seductive thing. It would be akin to losing a limb.

I am loving the little glimpses of Ichabod's relationships with the various historical figures: He almost idolized Washington He respected Jefferson (until the unfortunate revelation that Ol' Thomas plagiarized Ichabod's own words and had relations with Sally Hemmings) He seemes to have thought of Paul Revere as a Bro-Dude and Now he thoroughly sniffs with disdain and Franklin.

This did not feel like a premiere. It felt like the third part of the Season 1 finale. I copped immediately to the fake-out. I knew something was hinky, but I kinda dug Abbie and Ichabod's travelling arsenal and a glimpse of a how well honed their partnership had eventually become. I liked the call back to the S1 premiere, though, the visual of Ichabod clawing his way out of a grave followed by him running out onto the interstate. Jenny felt very Jenny. Good on them for not forgetting that she is a world travelling, ex-Demon possessed, ex-mental patient, Sarah Connoresque freedom fighter, mercenary. Of course she'd free herself and in kick ass fashion. Anything less would have been un-Jenny. Katrina seemed awfully flustered at the sight of Headless' buffed torso. Makes me think that she and Ichabod did it under the sheets at night, partially clothed. Abbie, oh, Abbie. I love you so. I love how she's like, well I am in Purgatory but I do not need to be stuck in Barbie's hell house. She's running around, getting intel, figuring shit out. And Andy!!! Now that the bonkers but excellent premiere is out of the way I hope the show does get back to a more studied pace and deals more deeply with Ichabod & Abbie's relationahsip. The fake-out we saw at the beginning was two people who had a cemented trust. But I don't think Ab & Ich are there right now. There is the elephant in the room with Ichabod's tunnel vision with getting Katrina out and all that that lead to. Abby's questioning of his zeal to get the key "Maybe that's what they want us to do." is a not-so-subtle reminder of his laser focus on getting the map and how, in dping so, they played right into Moloch's hands. And finally, I am not a huge Ichabbie shipper (just a medium sized one), but come on! This whole episode was full of Ichabbie feels. You can't have Ichabod recording what he thinks will be his final message before he dies to Abbie and not have people draw obvious conclusions. This is why I don't trust them when they say "oh, we don't mean to write them that way..." Bullshit. The hugs, the soulful looks, the I will come back for you... I continue to fight.... blah blah blah. But all in all that was a freaking awesome ep!

Opie! See for me, he is Opie Cunningham. Because through the Magic of TV Richie is just Opie all grown up, they are actually the same person even in tvland. Even when he was in that Jamie Fox/T-Pain music video (Blame it on the Alcohol) I said, 'Wow, Opie Cunningham is hanging out with Jamie Fox, Rudy Huxtable and Ashley banks in a rap video."

Yup. I am counting every whole or half man (and Charlie Sheen) that has had a part of that show.

Three and a Half Men. Not a single actor on the show appeals. Dads. Which I hate a) because it sounds stupid and b) because for some inexplicable reason Hulu seems to think because I like 'Sleepy Hollow' I will like Dads. It keeps recommending it to me. Stop! No! The two shows have nothing in common. No. Thing. Their reccommendation algorithmn is horrible.

Aw... Where's Jenny's?

I am curious about why so many people are seeing Glee in this? I've also seen a couple of professional reviews make the comparison. But I am not flashing on Glee when I watched it. Other than the bright color palette and the teenagers, what about it is triggering Glee comparisons? I watched the first season of Glee and enjoyed it because it was quirky and a little bent (reminded me of Murphy's other teenaged show, Popular). I bailed second season. But yeah, not really getting that quirky vibe here. RBS feels more earnest, like it is taking itself more seriously than Glee ever did (that first season anyway). it feels like it has more in common with those shows that feature world-weary-i-know-more-than-you-do teen shows.

Extended synopsis of S02.E3. Apparently Henry is Irving's lawyer. How ...diabolical! http://www.spoilertv.com/2014/09/sleepy-hollow-episode-203-root-of-all.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=b3rt4

I agree with Elena from Vampire Diaries. She is a shitty friend and suffers from Speshul Snowflake syndrome. Sookie from True Blood is also a member of the Speshul Snowflake/Shitty friend club. I have to say I do hate Megan from Mad Men like crazy and I lay it completely at Matt Weiner's feet. He took a perfectly fine character who started out great and root-worthy and made her unbearable. He pushed her so hard as the anti-Betty that it made me like Betty more than I ever had out of sheer self-preservation and contrariness. Oh, look she comes up with the best copy evah! She's a natural Ad Man! Oh look, she's fab with the kids, Betty is a terrible mother. Oh look, she's so hot and sexy singing in a kittenish little dress making every man want her. Oh look, she and Don fuck like animals on the floor of their penthouse! Betty would never do that. Oh look, she doesn't take Don's shit, she fights back fiercely. Betty just gave bitch-face. Oh look Megan is skinny and sexy, while Betty is fat and unahppy. Didn't Don do sooo much better? Ugh!