GirlvsTV

I lost brain cells watching this, it was that dumb.

I did not enjoy this episode, probably because of all the Nate. I did, however, tear up at the end when Mick watched ghost Axl disappear for the last time.

Since the noob backlash caused by the last episode seems to be unintentional, how long will we have to wait until one of the EPs has to do an interview explaining how everyone is watching the show wrong and the noobs' position is actually justified and people should side with them?

I loved Shel Silverstein poems! I received Where the Sidewalk Ends as a Christmas gift when I was maybe 7 or 8 and it was my favorite book for years. I've never been much into poetry, especially as a child, but Silverstein's are perfectly aimed at kids and so fun to read and recite.

I'll join you. I didn't expect to be as bothered as I was by the Nazi stuff. I wasn't happy about the premise, but was willing to see where it went. However, that promo made me feel disgusted. It was the shot of prisoners in striped uniforms and the actual swatiska . . . I just feel Iike that is taking it too far.

I feel like they did a bad job when the first version of this storyline played out in s4 as well. Felicity clearly wanted to come back to the team, but they didn't do a good job establishing Oliver's motives for doing so - especially since he seemed pretty happy and settled in Ivy Town. I remember being kind of sad he put the hood back on because he seemed so happy without it. This ep was mostly boring, but not as awful as I thought it would be. My bar was basically subterranean though. I liked Diggle and Lyla's interactions and am glad the Diggle/drug thing is mostly resolved because, as many of you have pointed out, it was dumb and nonsensical. Good Lord, all the My Son-ing though! Do they think viewers can't remember the characters actual names? You know what might help with that? Calling the characters by their names instead of "My/Your/His Son."

I didn't dislike the episode, it was fine, but I am tired of the stand-alone filler eps. This is actually the only one I stuck with to the end, though as soon as he woke up in the hospital I guessed he was in Hell. I hope we get back to the 'Cinna-man' mystery soon.

I thought that was really bad. Felt like the acting was off for just about everyone, and lots of scenes where they all seemed like they were waiting for their turn to say a line - it didn't feel natural. The less said about the kid the better, but the idea of having a petulant tween sorting through his issues for 9 episodes is not at all appealing. Especially since he's such a terrible actor. I haven't watched regularly in a really long while and skipped nearly all of season 5. Thought I'd check back in to see if my Oliver dislike had dissipated at all and, no, it hasn't. So, I'm out again.

I keep hearing 'Cinna-man' and picturing a small gingerbread like man but made of cinnamon pastry. Tbh, it's kind of a problem because the character is supposed to be scary but literally every time they say his name I picture this:

That was the first episode I've enjoyed start to (almost) finish in a looooong time. It was nice to finally get Felicity's POV. And then they ruined it at the end. Ruined it.

Every single bit of this. While I can appreciate this episode was a huge improvement in writing, I can't help but feel both Oliver and Diggle had no ground whatsoever to stand on with Felicity and Lyla. I haven't rewatched it, but on my first viewing of the loft scene I thought it seemed like Oliver was taking a situation that was about Felicity and her choices and making it all about HIM. His actions led to Chase which led Felicity to the point she is at, so instead of further reflection/discussion on why Felicity was willing to go this far we had her give Oliver a speech about taking his 'burdens' because he was sadz. Lol, okay show. Also, I was genuinely unmoved by Felicity's speech to him in that scene. Hard to reconcile that version of Oliver with the guy we've recently seen kill an innocent person and experience no consequences from making such a terrible mistake. Not to mention he later had knowledge of people covering up his crime because he is mayor. Ugh. I have really enjoyed Helix and Alena, so I do hope the explosion was all Chase related and Felicity wasn't double crossed. And on a totally shallow note, is it just me or does Stephen's hair look weird? Is it too long?

Oliver straight up murdered people while Mayor and, in Billy's case, had knowledge of a cover-up of the murder due to his position. If he is outed and not immediately arrested . . . I think he needs to write his own name down in that old notebook. Sorry, I've just had enough of blatant political corruption in real life. Disappointed to see it play out this way on what was my fave show.

It also sounds like a total re-hash of s2's ending despite MG's attempts to differentiate between the two. The entire culmination of the Slade stuff was Oliver being strong enough to be a hero and NOT be a killer. And here we are in s5 and the end of Chase arc is for Oliver to resist being the killer Chase is trying to convince him he is . . . As much as MG may want to explore a more gray area with Oliver's choice to kill, I just don't think these writers have the skill to pull off writing that way. It requires a much more deft hand in characterization and plotting than this show's typical anvil falling, blunt force trauma style. This is why, as much as I think JS is doing a great job, the whole Prometheus thing just does not hang together for me. These writers just have Oliver either fully regressing or basically spinning his wheels. They don't seem to know how to let Oliver move forward and find new storylines to explore.

My spec about this season is that the writers are terrible. When viewers don't respond or react the way they anticipated, it's always the viewers' fault and not the writing. If the writers can't acknowledge their screw-ups and learn from them, the show is never going to get any better. I am intrigued with the possibility of the finale being set on Lian-Yu. I had kind of been hoping we'd get something like that at the end of last season.

I don't know if it would necessarily be because of the death threats, but I've definitely been wondering if she just negotiated to not have to do any press this year.