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This show is never going to happen. David Ramsey needs to just let it go.

I'm so tired of Celina.

Thawne is not done. He will never be done until the show ends. It doesn't matter what Wallace says. And in one post mortem interview he even hinted as much.

Everytime I think this show can't get worse, it does. But I feel like I should expect that since the Eric Wallace years of the show have been some of the worse years of television I have ever seen. Why would Wallace bring back the forces when he has to know how much they were hated last year? They and especially Dion are the worse villains in the Arrowverse in my opinion. I loathe Tom Cavanaghs Eobard Thawne/Reverse Flash. A once compelling villain has now become nothing but a one note, sniveling, cartoon. It's gotten to the point where I can't even stand looking at him. Any deaths or resurrections with him have lost all meaning. Oh great. Cecile have "leveled up." I've hated this character since she was first introduced. I will never understand why the writers love her so much & give her so much screen time. That scene of Cecile, Chester, & Allegra strutting onto the scene to face the forces....just no. I wish TPTB would end this show already. It's not even fun to hate watch anymore.

Neicy Nash is too annoying for me to watch on a weekly basis so if this spin off happens it's a big no for me. I hope after next week I will never have to watch her on The Rookie or anything else I watch again.

Season 2 is 15 episodes.

Danielle Panabaker said in an instagram live today that season 8 will have 20 episodes.

The Bizarro fight at the beginning was probably the best scene ever on an Arrowverse series. I am just amazed by it. Other world Lana looked hot. I hope Lana is really done with Kyle. This show always surprises me with how good it is.

I keep seeing people talk about voice narration for this episode. I watched it on demand & there was none. What's everyone talking about?

Captain Cold is

A strong first episode back. I missed the Kent's. Bitsie was great as always. I'm so glad John Henry Irons is still on the show & he now has his daughter back. I wonder who this new girl is that Jonathan is with. I thought they'd keep Teagan around since they said she had a father in prison from Central City. But this girl he's with now is called Candice.

I think Deadline said it best: https://www.google.com/amp/s/deadline.com/2022/01/the-cw-sale-warnermedia-viacomcbs-nexstar-1234905157/amp/ The network is not as doomed as the mass hysteria on the Internet is saying.

But CBS & WB are not saying "we are selling something that has no profit." I feel like the no profit line is what everyone on the internet is grasping on. That's not news or anything new. It's been said for years that the broadcast station isn't where CW makes their success. It's their digital sites & international sales. And if you read the deadline piece, both companies according to them, if this even happens, are to keep a minority stake in the network & still remain suppliers. I see that's the conclusion everyone online is jumping too. I just think it's a big leap. I feel like all this doom & gloom has gotten out of control. Any changes to the CW could take years to happen. Not everything canceled in one swell swoop & everything replaced with reality shows.

The news is not that dire. No where is it said the network will break up or their shows will have to go elsewhere. I'm not getting why so many are jumping to that conclusion as well as everything will get shuttled off to HBO Max when nothing like that has been said. In fact the exact opposite has been said if you read the deadline article. So many are dancing on CW's grave when it's nowhere near death.

The write up says it's not a spin off of Batwoman. That doesn't mean it isn't on the same Earth. My guess is that Batwoman will be renewed for a fourth & final season that will air next Fall, & then replaced with this the following winter. I doubt CW will have two Batman related shows on at the same time. I've been thinking CW/WB/DC had to be thinking about a replacement for Batwoman. Something, anything, better than Batwoman.

What was with that comment Punk made to Cecile? I'm worried about Joe.

She's

This show tries so hard to be cool. Yet everything comes off as underwhelming.

Finally! Brett & Casey! Literally waited years for this & it was well worth the wait.

They should've left Kate presumed dead in the plain crash. Everyone should have mourned & slowly moved on. They never should have had Safiyah say Kate was alive & being held prisoner on her island. Everything with the first 8 episodes imo was pointless. Everyone obsessed with saving Kate from Safiyah & then once everyone's on the island she reveals she never had Kate. IMO, the whole back & forth about Kates fate was pointless. Your opinion is no one was baited. Mine is that Kate fans were baited. From the moment they announced Day was cast after episode 8 aired. Dries even said she knew fans wanted Day cast as Kate from the moment Rose left. But instead she went with her original character. Yeah, they made it clear that Leslie is the lead. Which imo has ruined the show because Ryan Wilder to me is a badly written character. And I have seen a lot of backlash regarding Ryan Wilder from June 2020 when the news broke about Kate being replaced with Ryan until now.

If they didn't want to seem wishy washy they never should've brought Kate back at all. As soon as the announcement came that Wallis Day was joining the show a lot (Myself included) preferred her over Ryan Wilder. I was pro giving Ryan a chance until season 2 started airing & they kept baiting with Kate. We'll have to agree to disagree about the reception to s2, Javicia Leslie, & Ryan Wilder. I don't think it's been positive. If the people in charge are happy with Batwoman s2 that is really surprising to me. Hollywoodnorth Buzz says s3 will film between July 19th to December 20th. That would put the season episode order at 13 at the most.

Ryan hasn't won most people over so now what? Are CW, WB, & all involved supposed to keep making more of the Ryan Wilder/Javicia Leslie series because they don't want to come off as rasict? Shouldn't they do something about how badly replacing Kate Kane with Ryan Wilder has been recieved? I see the episode order for the show has been cut down to 13 for next season. That can't be good. People behind the scenes must know what a disaster season 2 was. But yeah, I'm sure they won't cut Javicia Leslie & replace her with Wallis Day because of the optics. At this point I feel like the only way out of this mess for CW & all involved is to just end the show.

Sofia Hasmik promoted to regular: https://deadline.com/2021/06/superman-and-lois-sofia-hasmik-promoted-series-regular-season-2-the-cw-1234784070/#click=https://t.co/cFBcKmdmIb

I'm sure she knows most fans want her & Kate instead of Ryan Wilder. Fans wanted her from the start after Ruby Rose left. She should have been made the lead. But instead they decided to go their Wilder direction & now it's backfired.

It'll be interesting to see how badly Dries destroys Renee. Oh joy. Wilders mother & brother. Yawn. I couldn't care a less about this terrible characters family. I wish they'd just pull the plug on this show.