JudyObscure

I wish I could find Bhanu funny, but he's got that hateful side that's a little bit scary. He's like a mean, selfish child in a man's body. Screaming in Jess's face one minute, sobbing over his poor little self the next, telling us about Kenzie's dragon tail like he really thought it was true and we just needed convincing? Now he thinks God gave someone a pinched nerve just to save Bhanu. No thanks on the heart winning from me, even Princess Diana turned me off when she said she wanted to be the Queen of hearts, I think Bhanu's crying, lying and eagerness to throw others under the bus is disgusting. I love Hunter's story! The guy gave up being a doctor to teach kids and has a house full of Survivor stuff to use for games. He's a dream teacher. I've seen Hoarder episodes featuring teachers. They not only have a compulsion to save everything for school projects, they need to save 30 of everything.

She even admitted that getting a good job and knowing she could support herself entered into her decision to finally tell the truth. She wasn't at all squeaky clean. Dating a married man with children, trying to get him to leave his family, staying in touch with him, getting Hickey involved without telling him the whole serious situation. Both women were pretty bad. Now for my pet peeve! Quit acting like being called a victim is worse than being called a drug dealing truck stop whore! Nobody needs to feel ashamed of being a victim whether they ultimately survived, died from the attack, or are a family member, You are a victim of crime and it is the perpetrator who should be ashamed.

David and Odette sure did live in a beautiful place. Blue Mountain Ontario helps to make up for the cold misery of last week's Artic Ocean coastal village. Odette may or may not be a hoarder but I heartily disliked her. Anyone who can sit and pout for four hours while 20 people wait outside for her is a spoiled brat in my eyes. When David was crying over his dead wife and she walked up and said, "But now you have me!" I wanted him to say it was a real down grade. I thought they should have let David keep his software. It wouldn't take up a lot of space and it was what he was used to working on, so who cares if it's outdated? Trying to tell him that his old self (well respected designer) was dead now and all he was, was a grandfather, seemed cruel and untrue to me. Our talents don't quit existing when we retire. David's self esteem was taking hit after hit, his wife telling him she was leaving him, and Goodwill telling him all his valued things were too trashy and useless for them, all had to hurt. I think the kindest thing for the team to do would have been to go straight from the donation center to the landfill and not mention it to David. That final reveal was so disappointing. This is what happens when men design houses. Furniture placement never enters their heads and you end up with no wall space and all the furniture floating around in the middle in each other's way.

LOL😃 I sure hope he reads this. We know he watches TV all day because he didn't always have TV growing up 😕 but I'll bet he surfs the net a little while he's "'doing financial business."

Mine too! I can still see her holding that bucket while all the big muscular people dropped.

Thank you @Fishcakes. Your clip matches my memory but I thought I had to go back and check to make sure. I've been rooting for the Asian women since Survivor began. I just like their manner so much better than the Liz and Kenzie types who are just too brash and over confident for my taste. It's sad that the group as a whole seems to require that others brag about themselves before they grant their respect.

Agree with the rest of you that my list of people I no longer like got really long this episode Venus was being shunned and it was hard to watch. I've seen the beautiful girl shut out of the group on jobs and the only thing she can do about it is work really hard on her personality and use self-deprecating humor to work her way in. Otherwise the regular girls will swear she's stuck up and conceited, with no evidence. Venus hasn't learned any of that yet and is making matters worse by being a little bit high maintenance and pouting about it. I feel really sad for her and at the same time this is the sort of dynamic I like to watch on Survivor's "social experiment," and why I'm glad we have the two hour episodes. Liz's tribe should have thrown the challenge so they could vote her out. Even the show's horrific sound track couldn't drown her out. Soda was my favorite last week, now she's gone down a little, but still a favorite. Bhanu is really smart and clearly a quick learner, going from one culture to another as quickly as he has, so maybe he knows now that his "passion" comes across as terrifying and will learn how to suppress it. I hope. Jess was refreshing and restful in the midst of all the extroverts. Sorry to see her go. Kenzie's tattoos bother me only because I hate to see young, beautiful skin covered up with comic book art. I like her, but I think her strong personality will either get her voted out soon -- or she'll make it to the end. I wanted Jess to cast one vote for her to warn her. Tiffany. She's very smart and strong but I can't really like her because I can't look at her. I automatically turn my head away from the TV or even in real life when confronted with someone who has things hanging out of their nose. I'm sorry, but I'm instinctively repulsed. I would never be that way about an unattractive feature that someone was born with, but when they've gone out of their way to purchase and insert the nose hanger, I find it downright rude and antisocial.

I thought this was a great episode. One of the main reasons I watch this show is for the look inside other lives and Kugluktuk, Nunavut was about as "other" as it can get. Such a cold, miserable looking place and yet it contained the nicest people ever. I would never have believed a huge hoarder house could be cleared, cleaned and repaired by a group of friends and neighbors only. When I compared this little group with the big muscular, professional groups with Matt or Corey leading, I just didn't think it would get done. The mother/son dynamic always gets me tearful because I'm divorced with one son and we are very close. What a fine boy Tajko is! Lastly, I just have to say, in the all important November election, I'm going to vote for anyone who promises to appoint a cabinet of engineers who will design a really good, supportive bra for all us overweight American women.

Cary certainly was a sad man and the friends who thought they were doing "tough love" weren't helping. I think they meant well, and I understand their frustration, having helped him clean out before. I think if I had cleaned out a hoarder mess for someone who just turned around and trashed it again, I would have to just stay far away after that.

I noticed that, too. I wish the therapists and organizers would quit pushing the "so your family can visit," motivator on people who clearly don't care about that. The only words that got through to David was the threat of losing his house and all his precious stuff. I'll bet he was scared to death that one of those cute grandchildren was going to break something. They were both so nasty to that nice therapist I don't understand how she managed to maintain a professional demeanor. Wouldn't it have been nice to see the bank take possession of the house and contents, sell it "as is," and let David and Elisabeth watch the new owners throw all those lamps and purses in a dumpster?

I do understand that and I hate it when the man thinks all the money is his when a proper division of labor says she deserves half the income if she is raising the children, cooking and cleaning. But I'll never believe Elisabeth did any actual work as homemaker. She says she sewed with the children but their little sewing machine was still brand new and she seemed to have bought hundreds of pieces of clothing for herself and matching outfits for the girls. David and Elisabeth both admitted that they didn't do housework or cooking and one of the girls said it was always a mess. David said she had always spent as much as she wanted to and never even saw the bills.

He was just tall, that's all. Jelinsky and Jess represent my most hated type of player (overly self-confident with tons of excuses for failure) and my favorite type, (humble, kind and human). I'll really be rooting for her to break through the insomnia and get started playing. I'm already worn out. I thought he was two people at first, the high-pitched funny gay guy, and the deep voiced serious student of the game. Help. Tiffany is quick and smart. Love Q and his intolerance of fools.

David and Elizabeth proved that this show will never stop amazing me. When we looked at their wedding pictures and David said she had been "plainish," while we see she was cute and he looked just like Ichabod Crane. I just shook my head. Then we saw all the money he had spent on stuff he liked while admitting he was too lazy to do anything and wouldn't even take out the garbage -- and then remarks that Elizabeth is selfish. David also complains that she pays full price for things while he always pays the "sale price." I guess 30 years of QVC shopping he's never noticed that everything is always on "sale." If the original price ever happened it was probably for five minutes off camera. He also probably never thought that buying a lamp you don't need and don't have a place for is not a bargain even if cost one dollar. You just waste a dollar. Even my husband looked up from his computer and said, "What a jerk." So at the one hour mark we hated him and turned the TV off. Now, I've watched the second hour and I can't stand Elizabeth either. She is selfish, unable to part with a single purse or parka and not interested in living in this house but wants her 50% of it along with her assisted living house and nice six o'clock dinners cooked by someone else. Frist she was saying she came home from the hospital and got dizzy in the nasty kitchen but later she admits it was always like that, just with a little square clear space. David is amazingly lazy, but at least he held a job for many years while apparently Elisabeth didn't do one darn thing. How do people like this manage to raise such nice children?

I always wonder how they manage to film any British shows. We moved to England (the Cotswolds) in January 1990. It was already beautiful and as spring came in it became breathtaking. So I set my camera out to take pictures to send back to West Virginia. Just waiting by the door for a sunny day. Three months passed. All that drizzle makes for technicolor green grass and fields of flowers, but you really work for it.

I just watched the "Meet the Cast," thing. Once again, they all grew up in poverty but rose from the ashes to be the most incredible people ever and their biggest challenge will be hiding their awesomeness from the rest of the cast so they wont be voted out first. I'm still excited about the season.

She is amazing. So brilliant and yet so modest about it. Such a contrast between her and all the arrogant police detectives. Just think of all the times Angie's mother went to the police station and was told "We're working on it." Yet now we know they hadn't even bothered to follow up on the man who lived across the street.

Yes, and I kept thinking of her mother saying Angie was almost 6 feet tall and very strong. Angie sounded about as young and fit as a girl can be, and yet, a skinny, drunk, stupid, older man can come in and rape and kill her. Why do men have to be so much stronger than women? At least we got to see her mother, Carol Dodge, who was such a fine woman, one of the best of many we've seen on this show.

Oops. You're right!

Catherine Cookson set most of her novels in Yorkshire and I got used to "nowt" for nothing and "ta" for yes. My favorite was "gormless lout" for a big dumb guy.

Agree on all points. I enjoyed all the Siegfried, Mrs. Hall, Carmody, and Christmas at the pup scenes, but the whole birth story seemed off to me. I can't think dutiful straight-arrow James would have ever considered going AWOL and all his talk about being there to support her was very contemporary. Helen, whose acting was so good last week with her fear over not feeling the baby move, didn't do "brand new mother" half as well as most of the Call the Midwife actresses. While James looked properly awed over his new baby she seemed almost bored standing there stroking his fontanel area over and over. Just not their best episode.

Yeah, sending a pair of panties to someone an ocean away is not at all the same as actually sleeping with your best friend's ugly husband. Not that I can understand falling in love with Bob-from-England while playing a game.

Isn't that the truth? I understand the therapists wanting to encourage the slightest bit of progress, but some of the "where are they now" shows and final reveals still look like one big unbearable mess to me.

True, but whatever her husband had would be considered hers also, and she would inherit it if he died. As kind as Siegfired would be (and I'm sure he would) Audrey would always know she was there out of charity, because "like family," is never quite the same as, "family." I think I would choose marriage to Gerald.

I've been thinking about Audrey. I wanted her to stay of course. We can't separate Dash and Tess and they would both miss her terribly. I'm sure in their minds she's the alpha. But what happens to women like Audrey when they get too old to run up and down stairs or lift heavy loads of laundry and iron skillets? What if Siegfried marries one of those bossy women he favors?

Josh did look great and I had noticed last season that he was sometimes a little short of breath. Good for him! I want all the cast to be around for many more years. Even Andrea. I hope to see her in her seventies still wearing those flimsy party dresses.