JudyObscure

QQQQ, I watch it on my computer at the CBS show site. If it's a 2 hour episode it starts to skip a little bit in the last half hour or so, but it does make it till the end. I do like to be able to pause and take a longer look at some things. I'm endlessly nosey about people's houses. Angel and Mr. Evil had painted all the rooms in deep colors and failed to do the trim properly. The kitchen was the expected mess. The bed lacked sheets. The TV was in a shelving unit with hundreds of DVDs - they're so easy to steal. I imagine their home life was; get fast food, get high, watch TV. But don't most of those shows and movies have at least some sort of lesson or message that would teach right from wrong? Something that would teach empathy for young victims? How do people end up so heartless? How do they find each other? Most of all how on earth did Angel become a nurse?

This case was not new. I kept waiting for there to be an update, but there wasn't. There is NO WAY that I buy that Melissa didn't mastermind the whole thing. This case also reminded me of a notorious case around here (that I'm actually surprised hasn't ended up on Dateline yet. A very rural part of the state. Also a custody battle I know! I've been following the trials closely on YouTube and I'm just hoping some true crime writer is working on the book, Dateline working on a two hour episode, someone else working on a Dallas-style miniseries, and Lifetime making an "I Married a Murderer" movie about the unfortunate, innocent, Mennonite, Beth, who married Jake Wagner in Alaska, not knowing he was the prime suspect for eight murders. I knew she was a nasty piece of work the minute she told the police, "I don't want to point fingers, but my ex was violent and hated his mother."

This episode had some of the worst police work we've seen. I hated that detective repeating that he was always working for the victim. does he think this poor woman wanted him to berate her son for 11 hours? I thought Justin seemed very babyish, but many of us might act that way if we had just pulled our "Mommy," out of a bath tub of blood. The detectives were also dense about Deyonte. They kept thinking he couldn't have done it because his history was all just burglary. As if someone who breaks the law in one area might not break it in another? Deyonte seemed to have a history of getting away with little or no punishment and having all his friends act like he was a great guy, as if burglary is no big deal at all. This may have been the first time he got caught and he was willing to take a life in a horrible way just to save his own skin.

I think Charles married a 20 year-old woman because (a) she happened to be the one he was dating when the pressure to marry was at a peak and (2) because he knew he had to marry a virgin and there weren't that many 20-something young women in his set who were. When Diana was even younger, she told one of her friends that she had to remain a virgin because she planned to marry Prince Edward. She thought Charles would be taken by the time she was grown. I don't think Charles ever seemed the controlling, macho type. His relationship with Camilla always seemed like equals with shared interests of horses and silly jokes. Diana was the same age I was when I married, it was the average age during the 50's and early 60's. Queen Elizabeth herself was only 21. I don't think it was her age that was the problem so much as her immaturity; refusing to take the advice of her supporters in the palace, throwing herself down stairs while pregnant, pushing her step-mother down a flight, daily hissy fits and firing over 40 servants, having affairs with athletes and playboy types (even before Charles went back to Camilla.) If she had told the truth during that famous self-pitying interview she would have said their are a dozen people in our marriage and included her own lovers. Yes, she was only 20 when she got married and she still acted that age right up until the night she and her boyfriend were laughing and encouraging their driver to speed through a tunnel on wet streets so they could out run the paparazzi, when all a mature mother of two would have done is turn out the interior lights of the limo and put on her seat belt.

I'll never look at my pharmacist the same. I have no idea what he does in his off hours, but thinking it might be drunken orgies with strippers makes me want to make sure he washes his hands before touching my drugs. Cindy's sister was so shrilly defensive you knew right away Cindy had to be in prison. The poor dumb thing thought Cindy had to be a wonderful person because she was a care giver and a foster mother, and that just makes me feel sad for all the poor people who were under her "care." Two things would have made me happy to see Cindy behind bars whether she killed Ken or not -- handing Ken's young son his stuff at the door and telling him not to come back, and not answering Ken's mother's pitiful phone pleas. Ken's mother was amazing. I would hope to be as smart and slender as she is someday, but I'm not now, so probably not. I hope beautiful Cindy realizes that she now looks older than her mother-in-law.

All he needed was a banjo to hold. When the friend talked about Maggie being so proud of their money and position I thought of the old saying, "When you marry for money you have to go to work every single day."

Look how often we start the show with someone saying they never expected a murder to happen in their neighborhood because the houses were fairly upscale and the lawns were tidy (never mind the squalor inside that people like Angel were living in.) Then there are always family and friends who say so-and-so would never ever commit murder because they know him and he's such a nice guy. Everyone seemed to love Milton simply because he was a local "business" man. I suppose there are people who think those who follow their own religion or other group are going to be more trustworthy, just like my neighbors who put political signs all over their front yard and assume the rest of us on this street are in agreement. I've heard Korean friends say they never divorce and Jewish friends say Jewish men are always faithful to their wives and there is some truth in their claims compared with other groups. I think it's probably natural to trust your own group that you see every week, whether it's your fellow masons or members of your poker group. I just feel like the show always likes to point out the Christians gone wrong when they never would dream of pointing out that the first suspect who argued in the antique store never went to church.

(back to Righteous Obsession) Are there people in the world who think being a Christian makes you a good person? Every single time someone I know finds out I'm a Christian they always tell me how shocked they are to find out I'm a complete nutwing who hates gay people and believes Santa Claus is real. Then they start sifting through every word I ever said and everything I ever did looking for the sure fire proof that I'm a hypocrite, (doesn't take long) because to some people saying you believe in Christ is the same thing as saying you're just like him. At first I actually had a tiny bit of sympathy for the youth "pastor" for hesitating to turn in someone who had thought he was speaking to him in priest/confessional sort of way,-- then I saw that farm. Christian, devil worshipper, or veggie eating yoga teacher -- keeping cows in those stalls is plain wicked. The farmers feed the front end and milk the back end and never ever let them move. When they have calves, the calf is immediately taken away and the mother has to listen to it cry for her for days. No wonder his wife seemed like she was on the edge of hysteria the whole time.

Right, and feminism doesn't require that we take on the worst attributes of men or that we believe occupations traditionally held by men are superior to those held by women. I think it's fine that she's a detective, but not that she's a perfect Mary Sue who never makes a mistake. Even Nellie Bly, ran her late husband's business into bankruptcy. The anachronisms that bother me are the ones of attitude. Would a woman of that age know what it was to be gay? Most of those women, at least in Scarlet's class, would barely know how married straight people acted until their wedding night. Wouldn't her maid have been very uncomfortable when asked to sit on her sofa and chat? Would a woman dressed like Scarlet be able to walk unaccompanied into the poor part of town without an Artful Dodger relieving her of her purse and hat? Wouldn't something worse happen if she went to a brothel? Would she have been able to live alone and have male visitors without some men getting the wrong idea?

For that matter why did Eliza tell the whole society-not-group the scandalous information about the one woman's son? Yes, they were snooty and rude, but Eliza was downright cruel and enjoying it. I'm only watching this because it's Sunday night on PBS and I watch what comes after, but, wow, the anachronisms, the contemporary attitudes in a woman of that period, the tedious cat and mouse of the romance, and Eliza's smug personality all grate on me. Sorry, I probably should wait until nine to turn on the TV.

I wish they had interviewed Stanley's pastor. How was it that Stanley went ostentatiously to church every Sunday, yet was so clueless about the basics? Most importantly, "Vengeance is mine sayeth the Lord." Didn't he notice that it was God and not Lot who rained fire and brimstone on Sodom and Gomorrah. Lot was just told to hightail it out of there. Christians are supposed to refrain from judging others and let God take care of the justice part. Also Stanley, you are not and never will be an angel. Angels aren't humans who were good they are a completely different specie. Now the Huggins family, particularly the brother, Durand, were the best examples of real Christians I've ever seen. Durand was a good narrator, too. What a final episode.

Oh gosh I hate that LaRay so much! What a user.! First she's got mentally ill Lance wrapped around her finger because he's never had a mother or something, but she has to have Ron as second string servant, too. Ron was so fragile he could barely stand and she feels free to ask him to haul stuff up the stairs for her and drive her to her chemo all on her terms! (Lots of insurance pays for cabs to and from the hospital.) I have had lots of experience with women like her. My husband and I lived in a five story apartment building in D. C. for several years and all the single women in the building seemed to think my husband was there for their pleasure. He's tall, but he's not particularly strong. He has the long thin back of many tall men that's more prone to strains than the back of a shorter stockier man. The women in our building had no hesitation at all to flutter their lashes and asking him to carry stuff upstairs for them, or move their furniture, or buy them their cigarettes at the base commissary, or kill the mouse in their filthy apartment. Lot's of times they would ask me, "Could I borrow your husband for a few minutes?" Like that was so cute. I would grit my teeth and say, "You'd better ask him." The thing was I never once asked him to do those sort of things. If I bought a TV, or new mattress, I would pay the extra thirty dollars to have it delivered and set up. LaRay was one of those women times ten and then to sic that monster on Ron because she didn't get to smoke in his car? You know Lance would never have known Ron's movements if she wasn't telling him. She's as guilty of murder as anyone who hires a hitman. I can't stand it that she's out free somewhere, playing her pity card and using all her neighbors as servants.

Those passages are basically warning people not to be tempted into sin by the devil, like don't let some guy tell you it's okay to cheat on your husband because he wont know so it wont hurt him. I don't think it ever means we should look for the devil in someone before helping them, that would be judging them. No one stands at the door of the soup kitchen and checks the people for signs of sinfulness. There are at least 24 passages that say we should help the needy -- no questions asked. There's even a few about welcoming strangers into our homes, which I know I could never do. Those church women did nothing to be ashamed of. The shame is all on Jason for taking advantage of them. I had a friend for a while who was a pastor's wife. I watched sketchy people take advantage of her over and over, but she told me one time that her husband said it didn't matter whether the people she helped were deserving poor or con artists, it was the act of charity itself that was pleasing to God. Proverbs 19:17 "Those who are gracious to the poor lend to the Lord, and the Lord will fully repay them." She, and those church ladies who helped Jason, will be breezing through Heaven's gates while I'm left behind rolling my eyes at their gullibility. LOL

Court TV is covering the Pike County murders, or Ohio Massacre as they're calling it now. Eight people murdered in their sleep over custody of a baby girl. It's not far from where I live and if I thought Dateline was covering it I would go down and see if I could spot Keith or Josh.

I thought Keith might actually do that. If ever a voice contained an eye roll it was this lawyer's. You knew he was planning to make the jury feel like they were fools if they didn't believe his theory.

Oh sure on the killing. I was talking about long before that when Kaitlyn was making nasty phone calls to Mo. I thought Kaitlyn should take it up with Colin, not Mo, who wasn't doing anything wrong in my eyes.

Yes, and good lawyers know how to get stupid jurors all riled up and distracted from the facts. An even more common trope than crazy jealous woman is crazy jealous man, but the word misandry just doesn't flame people up like misogyny. So soon after the Gavin Smith case where that horrible Johhny Creech got off from his murder charge because he spoke in a soft voice and said the magic words, "I feared for my life," I've lost all faith in juries. Kaitlyn may well walk and I think she's evil. Shooting a young woman point blank like that? Maybe it's a generational thing, but for me, "We're together" just does not carry one tenth the weight of "We're married," so I despised Kaitlyn just for giving Mo a hard time. She has no special rights over Colin (I agree he's a liar, but he is not married.) We thought he was hilarious, too. He's so sure he's deep and enlightened because he teaches yoga. I loved, "People here are either unwanted or wanted."

I thought Gavin's wife Lisa, his sister Tara, and Keith Morrison all looked just alike.

i've been wondering about that, too. God help us all from men who learn how to cook one thing and can't get over themselves. First and foremost he was showing off for the women and would rather have them in the line of fire than miss watching him make his wonderful burgers and then he had the idea that he was going to be a legend in both grilling and peacemaking if he soothed Ed's fury with his burgers. Bless his heart, he didn't deserve any of what happened, but boy was he foolish.

Yes, Bruce should have had the ladies scuttling inside the minute that gun came out. Even without the gun they shouldn't have had to hear Ed making his sleazy remarks about strippers. Helen also seemed obsessed with sex. "Who're you trying to pick up in that outfit?" is a really strange thing to say to a woman watering plants in her own backyard. I think Helen thought she was Ed's wife in some alternative dimension. I'm starting to notice the patterns. Men are dangerous when they: Lose their jobs. Drink all day. Own a gun. Don't have a wife or girlfriend in the house. Think the neighbor's wife or girlfriend is pretty.

I've been compelled to get my DVDs out and watch it all over again. The first two episodes where her father dies and she's called "Your Majesty" for the first few times are particularly moving right now.

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Exactly. I don't think women (or small men) can never be wrong, just because they're physically weaker than someone else. Not taking no for an answer, and becoming angry when you don't get your way, whether it's about sex or going to the movies are traits of a pushy and entitled person and I would pity anyone who had to live with someone like that.

I was reading about the Hansom case in it's local paper. They had a picture of the actual dog at the humane center and said it was an "Italian Mastiff" another name for the Cane Corso. This is a breed banned in several countries because it was bred for hunting large game and can be very aggressive. I watch the Westminster Dog Show every year and since this is the show run by the American Kennel Club it is controlled by the breeders who want to sell their dogs. So they all sound great, but I've learned to read between the lines when they say a dog "isn't for everyone" "needs a determined owner," etc. The AKC breed standard description for Cane Corso says, "It is subject to a working trial: in order to qualify for registration, dogs must show tranquility in the presence of inoffensive strangers," Roxie clearly did not show tranquility when he was being walked and one of the random neighbors walked up. The articles also hint that the dog is dangerous around children, even in it's own family. I used to think that only bad owners caused bad dogs, and I'm sure this particular demented old gun toting man was a bad owner, but I've become convinced over the years that even good kind owners can have trouble with certain breeds due to their genetic makeup after years of breeding for a certain purpose. There has to be some reason that certain breeds like Pit Bulls and Rottweilers top lists of dog fatalities year after year while other breeds, like hound dogs, only show up on the list in rare cases even though they're very popular among the sort of people who tie them out back and whip them daily just for barking. I am a huge dog lover, but I'm not sorry Roxie got put down, if he had done to a child what he did to this woman the child would be dead.

Wow the dog story was so awful. Poor little Harper and the father seemed like the nicest guy. Like the older son I was sorry the killer didn't live to sit in prison and think about how he killed two people because they had asked for his insurance information. He should have already offered to pay the mom's medical bills since his dog caused the injuries, but his insurance probably would have covered it in any case. I'm sorry the lying wife didn't have to do any time. She was still being very cavalier about the whole thing even after three people were dead, one of them her husband. Her biggest worry seemed to be that she would have to call one of her kids and tell them their father was dead.