Demented Daisy

Starts on page 23 of the Bitterness thread. BTW, I'm not doing the rest of season 12. I'm not doing any additional seasons. I don't need the stress. Sorry to everyone who enjoyed my analyses.

Hmm. ;-)

I was responding to catrox's suggestion that they make Sam summoning Demon Dean into "the best running joke in the entire series". So, yes, IMO, it would have made Demon Dean into a joke, which I find highly distasteful. I am grateful that the storyline was kept to 3 episodes. Always have been, always will be.

I don't understand why people are blaming the Lucifer storyline for Mark Sheppard's departure from the show. Isn't it possible that they have known for months that Sheppard wanted to leave, which was the catalyst for the continued Lucifer storyline? Isn't it possible that Pellegrino was elevated to regular as a replacement after the fact instead of before? Isn't it possible that Jared, Jensen, and Misha have kept mum about Sheppard leaving the show because they feel hurt? Maybe they didn't want him to go and don't want to make him look like a bad guy for wanting to move on? Long story short (too late!), it's way, way, way too early to know what happened.

As a Dean fan, I would have absolutely HATED that. Making a joke of Dean being a demon, his greatest fear? Makes my stomach turn. Talk about disrespecting the character....

Once they got the bunker, I always thought that Kevin (instead of being on Garth's boat) and Castiel (instead of being... wherever he was) should have been holed up in a quiet corner, away from prying eyes, doing research. Then it would be much (IMO) more natural for Sam/Dean to stroll into the kitchen/living area and say something like, "That guy won't stop until he's found what he's looking for." Or something else that would indicate that Sam/Dean was just talking to said person off-camera. I've also thought that, during these world-ending crises, they should move everyone into the bunker, but perpetually off-screen. Just makes more sense to me that way, instead of Sam and Dean hopping in the car and driving three states over to talk to someone. *shrug* But the show hasn't listened to me about that stuff before. Why start now? ;-)

I'd say so. ;-)

The name Jack has a lot of evil connotations as well: Jack the Ripper, Springheel Jack, Jack Torrance (The Shining), Jack Frost....

Okie dokie. You asked for it. ;-) Sam is very much like me. I, too, was considered the "smart" younger sibling, the one who was expected to do so much (my father once suggested I go to the Naval Academy in Annapolis, Maryland and become the first female Navy Admiral *eye roll*), who became a disappointment when I dropped out of college, got married, and had a kid. I was the one who rebelled against my parents plans for me. So, yeah, when I started watching SPN, Sam bored me. I knew that story. I knew what choices he would make, how he would lash out at John, blah blah blah. Dean was more a mystery to me. Plus, he made me laugh. That's always a good thing in my book. :-) Years later, Dean is still my favorite, but Cas is getting closer to taking that spot. Dean doesn't make me laugh as much as he used to. Plus, he's straying awfully close to "alpha male moron" in recent seasons. IMO, of course. ETA re: flaws While Dean is my favorite character, I don't pretend his flaws don't exist. Nor do I excuse them. Nor do I get angry when the writers use those flaws to forward the story. It's all part of storytelling and having flawed heroes as the main characters. I do not believe that Sam or Dean are "Mary Sue"s. I think the story would suffer immensely if they were. For context, I "blame" Dean for taking the Mark of Cain. I don't "blame" the writers because Dean is flawed. I need Dean to be flawed for him to be a compelling character. The characters have to make mistakes for decent storytelling. I would get so bored if Dean did the right thing or made the right decision every time; never got knocked down in a fight; or never got outwitted by a bad guy. Where's the dramatic tension in a story like that? Yes, I know that Dean will "win" in the end, but how does he get there? That's the story I want to see. Honestly, I don't get the concept of "blaming" the writers when Dean makes a mistake. I get blaming the writers when the writing is bad, but Dean being human, with human flaws, is not bad writing, IMO. I don't think either character is "propped". To be propped, one must not be able to stand on one's own. I would never say that about Sam or Dean's characters.

Do you really want to know? If you really want to know, I'll tell you why I prefer Dean over Castiel over Sam. If it was rhetorical, I'll go back to packing. :-)

Never mind. I don't want to get dragged into this argument.

I feel bad for Ruth. All this talk of Mark and Misha and she's been (pretty much) ignored....

Still no clue.

The spin off should be called "Everybody Loves Baby". ;-)

That would be my husband. :-D If we watch live, he watches with me. If we dvr it, he's good with me telling him what happened. He still hasn't seen a complete season since 6. That being said, if Jodi dies, he has repeatedly said that would be the end of the show for him. ;-)