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The former Miss Cheyenne who had been sterilized without her knowledge or consent by the victims' father when he was "volunteering" among the Cheyenne. To me it was a fascinating concept of justice--more complex than is seen on say, L&O, or CSI when murder is committed for revenge.

@ElectricBoogaloo, ♥LOVE♥ the making of the clone dance video! Here's a recap of the finale from io9 with clone dance gifs from "the Orphan Black Tumblr": http://io9.com/holy-crap-orphan-blacks-season-finale-changes-everythi-1594493802

Oh, right. I had assumed the veil was for Kenya, but it can't be if she still thinks there's hope. Who was the love of her life who got killed towards the end of the last season? That might be why she wears it--and also another reason why she's an addict.

True, but they did a terrific job. Of course it helps that she's so beautiful to begin with. Hah! That makes me a little happy and a lot sad, if you know what I mean. Thanks for posting all of these tidbits, @Jamoche!

There will likely be some overlap with this thread and the Media thread, but it seems like a lot of the post-finale posts in the Media thread were looking for a "Fargo Season 2 Speculation" thread. So here we go. The general casting possibilities seem to be: 1. Some or all of the same cast playing different characters. 2. New cast in new roles. 3. Some of the same cast playing the same characters.

Rachel seemed dead to me except for the pencil not appearing to have penetrated to the brain. Based on an interview posted in the media thread... ...it sounds like the show runners did that on purpose either because they haven't decided if she survives, or because they want to keep it secret. (I cut off the quote at the point where some might consider it to be spoilery.)If she lives, a glass eye would allow her to do more impersonating of her sestras. But I was picturing a more hi-tech silvery, sparkly eye that maybe allows her to read her sestras' minds or something.

Elsewhere on this board it was posted that the DVD will have a cut scene from the finale of a conversation between Donnie and Allison.

If not, evidently Sherlock Holmes was modeled after a Dr. Bell (http://www.sherlockian-sherlock.com/dr-joseph-bell-the-real-sherlock-holmes.php).If season 1 had Sarah impersonate Beth a little longer, maybe Art Bell wouldn't now be relegated to plot device and comic foil. *sigh*

In this interview given last week, a very lively, decidedly not-wooden DB states that the actors were never in on the story arc ahead of time, that they only saw the script for the next episode.So... ...yes.

I fell asleep on the first attempt at watching. About half way through the second I tuned out. To be fair, neither fantasy nor sadistic violence are my thing, but I thought I'd give it a try because of the trailer and some of the actors. But. no.

If you are correct, would that mean that the male clone's DNA has the potential to help reverse whatever degenerative illness is afflicting the young girl clone (and maybe Cosima too)? I mean, is he related to the girl clones?When Helena was attempting to leave Felix's place to go find Jessie and get married like Allison, wasn't she taking the nitrogen-marked container with her? Did the clone-nappers take it when they took Helena?

I wasn't shocked that Marc was a clone. It's not like I expected it either. It just seemed like an organic development. If the pencil went deep enough, Rachel would be dead, and she did seem very corpse-like. I'm guessing the folder Paul handed over is a cure for the little sestra clone, but that it might apply to Cosima too. So I guess it's not essential plot-wise but more of their weird romantic comedy thing going on.Hrumph. Couldn't they have edited down the clone dance sequence and the opening argument to include the Donnie Alison bit?Edited to correct sleep-typing typo.

I just wasn't sure was really hearing the refrain: "I'll fornicate my way back home." LOL

I'm pretty sure the last name is from the beltway sniper (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Boyd_Malvo), although I haven't read anything to back that up. I figured Hawley didn't want to give the monster he created a name that wasn't already tarnished with notoriety. But I could be wrong.When the good guys were first learning his name, I recall the person giving it to them saying something like, "Lorne. Like the fella on that western," referring to Lorne Greene from Bonanza, and later Captain Adama from the first Battlestar Galactica--in other words, and actor whose name is associated with the quintessential good guy. There are lots of ways to interpret the contrast of the two names.

It drove me crazy too for the first 20 minutes! Depending upon the roles they're playing and their hair styles, Erica Cerra, Sarah Shahi, and Emmanuelle Vaugier are sort of interchangeable in my mind. Plus, in Eureka, Erica Cerra mostly wore that frumpy cop uniform and was a tomboy badass. At first I was thinking: Was she Lex Luthor's girlfriend on Smallville? And then it was: No. Wait. Wasn't she on Life? LOL

Or what they wish they hadn't seen/imagined. More Doc Yewell, please.

Yes, that's how I see it too--maybe because I came of age in the late 60s/early 70s when in lust and in love were pretty much interchangeable, heh. Good question. The Continuum wikia (http://continuum.wikia.com/wiki/Stefan_Jaworski) says he's likely being brought back to life, but looking at Michael Dopud's IMDb page (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0233304/) it looks like he's a busy guy, so they might have to keep his character on ice indefinitely, heh. I'm wondering if the character of Brad was split off from the character of Stefan Jaworski because of Michael Dopud's unavailability. In addition to the similar looks, and they both tried to kill Kiera, although Brad's was accidental... Good point. Sonia's taking out Dillon may have the greatest effect on the timeline. It would be sort of like taking out the person who enabled Mao Tse-tung to rise to power rather than taking out Mao--of course, Alec is more of a Bill Gates than a Mao or a Stalin--and Bill Gates is now primarily a philanthropist. And yes, Sonia seemed to follow Kagame with the same devotion as the Manson family followers. His other devotees are now doubting everything. Yes, and he also looks (to me) less hot. Kind of like the difference between Don Johnson in the pilot of Miami Vice and the later seasons. It's a really old reference, but uncannily similar to me.ETA: Not that they look anything alike, but the change is alike.

I love this too, and I haven't even had a pet in over 10 years. Thinking a bit more about the deaths of Budge and Pepper: I think in any contest of the two of them against Malvo, they would die. They're not good field agents, and Malvo is (was) a master serial killer.

I did get a twinge of that at one point--I think. Could you define the term as it is used to critique literary works?Or, since, as you say, it's not likely the show is trying to be edgy that way, but rather the writers and/or runners are oblivious, maybe it's moot to discuss.

I will watch again for the gorgeously evocative set designs. I'm assuming that since there is a game too, that a lot of the post-apocalyptic Chicago and LA was computer generated, right? The better to make an example of him, my dears.Rafe (or an ally) said the overworked miners were having to use the blue drug to keep up, so it doesn't make sense that Amanda would also be using it to got to sleep--but I suppose it could do both if it first speeds the user up and then leaves him/her relaxed. Anyway, if it is the blue stuff, and if Stahma is going to start using human adrenaline to manufacture it, Amanda's morals are going to be in conflict with her addiction. I'm sorry Alek's not DJing. Maybe he will eventually surprise his mom and join the rebellion against both her and the eReps, becoming an underground DJ that rallies and inspires the oppressed. Are the words to the song at the end of the episode online somewhere?

My only reservation about the way the death was handled is that since the grief expressed by the actors was genuine, and since the suicide is widely known, it could encourage those who are considering suicide for the effect it would have on others. I don't believe that is a common reason for suicide, but it is common for failed attempts, and sometimes those would-be failed attempts succeed.

From the media thread: That was my take on it too! Vindicated at last! For one thing, he could have overpowered her physically if he didn't want to participate, although until the episode where Rachel calls him to complain that he's missing, we seemed to agree that the Afghanistan thing was keeping him there. There were other physical aspects that I considered too in reaching my conclusion. ;>)

Hah! That's what I thought! Taking this to the Paul thread. @jaybear1701, is there a direct link to that transcript or anything?

It's on YouTube now. About 30 minutes:http://youtube.com/watch?v=EkibMtyPwkA

I'm guessing (not spoiled) the new ally is a new character altogether (new actor), but I would like it to be Paul. Or maybe it is Cal, and he does have some super spy connections (hence his off-the-gridness).