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Now THAT would have made this the best and most drah-mat-tic season EVAH!

"We just want you to make lots of Insta money and get a job on a major network, not get chained down to some loser who doesn't have any followers."

So Dad didn't have this conversation with his daughter before she went on that season of The Bachelor, when she could have been proposed to and/or slept with the Bach, or when she went on BIP when she was hanging with JPJ? He's talking about her making a mistake NOW? Pops, you're some years too late for pete's sake. This is not your daughter's first Fleiss rodeo.

Well, after Zac meets the fam, they have to hang out with Neil Lane some more, then go on the dreaded proposal limo ride. Then there's the appropriate break down/crazy happiness celebration. TPTB could stretch that into three hours, no problem!

Ben also had the scooter date, rode them to crush the pinatas. Ben's a scooter-kinda guy. Dad was wearing a helmet but I didn't notice if T and B were. Not that it matters.

Just like Tayshia taught him!

Ben impresses the fam by going to West Point. Tell 'em about your "leaving" the military, your 400 pounds, your two suicide attempts. Go ahead Ben, impress the fam some more. Dad likes his West Point background. I want to know what he thinks about the rest of Ben's back story.

This show never lets us hear about religious or political differences. The closest we got is Sean Lowe's Born-Again Virgin crock of I mean story line. Maybe they'll ask her about her church goin' on GMA tomorrow morning.

Me: "Ivan, call me."

So what's the deal with religion all of a sudden? Anyone know? Why doesn't hers match with Ivan's? Or is that the easy excuse to send him home.

Ivan, you're going home dude. Bye.

Zac at the RC: "I'm prepared for everything." Me: No you're not.

"Welcome to Hotel California."

Oh, poor Zac and Ivan. First they have to tolerate Bennett appearing out of nowhere for a RC and now they have to be subjected to Ben coming back from the dead to make it a third for the two-rose two-man ceremony. Eh.

@Bliss should be getting a commission on those. I want one too. I liked seeing the ad for Alex's book after/during yesterday's show. I'd like the book on tape, please.

Hi @teebax. I know things were difficult for you after your time on the show, but it would be cool if you had any memories of Alex you could post in that thread. We would all enjoy reading your thoughts, looking back at your tournament time. I'm a huge Ken fan. Follow him on Twitter, have his books. Once he replied to one of my tweets and I about had a fan gurl heart attack, one of the best moments of my life. I thought about everyone starting at the top of the board during yesterday's rerun, and got a chuckle knowing how that would change and freak so many out about people not "playing by the rules." During the years I've been watching, I can't think of any Jeopardy players I dislike, with the exception of Ryan, and if he hadn't told that story about the puppy, I wouldn't have minded him either. I'm positive many posters here would dislike me with a passion if I ever got on the show with my flannel shirts, Croc shoes, ponytail hair, lack of makeup, squinting at the board, inability to figure the right FJ bet and panic at being on national teevee, so I tend to cut all players some slack. "Judge not lest ye be ..."

And the floor so shiny. I was afraid AT was going to slip and fall. At the end, it was fun to see everyone standing together. It made me look up the heights for Ken and AT. Shout out to a certain poster here via K.C., student from Bloomington, Indiana. I had to look up Botticelli's Primavera. It didn't overwhelm me and make me fall in love with art history (I had five years of that subject!) as it did K.C. It did make me realize Botticelli used the same exact pose for that Venus as he did in his Birth of Venus painting, otherwise known as Venus On The Half Shell to some scholars. Cheater. I got a laugh that during the interviews, AT told Ken that H+R Block had offered to do Ken's taxes. Too bad he didn't remember that tidbit some games later. Watching Ken (I did not see any of his run), I imagined all the snark he would have gotten on this thread. It would have been harsh, no doubt. I gave myself a High Five that I knew the TS of knickers and Ken did not. Of course, I got about 200 Low Fives at all the clues he knew and I did not. For FJ I said Eddie Rickenbacker. He didn't die until 1973, so it could have been. It was after the answer was revealed that I remembered Lindbergh getting notoriety for his somewhat un-American viewpoint. Make that very un-American viewpoint. The clue of Ferdinand, the Kentucky-Derby-winning Thoroughbred horse, was sad. The truth is, it is not known if he ended up in a can of Japanese pet food or as steaks on the table of a Japanese restaurant. The clue didn't mention that second part, but it's true. He won the 1986 Kentucky Derby, the 1987 Breeders Cup and was the '87 Eclipse Horse of the Year. He won close to $4 million in his career. He was retired to stud in 1989 and sold to Japan in 1994. He went to slaughter in 2002, without notice to his former owners. His story is part of the reason many horse slaughterhouses in the U.S. were closed, with horses having to be shipped to Canada for slaughter and export to horse-eating European countries. While that sounds great for America, it was a death knell for horses in America. The typical auction price for a nice riding horse used to be $800-$1,000 when bidding against the slaughter-house buyers. Prices dipped to maybe $100-$200 for that same horse after plant closures. It was no longer feasible to pay a $500-$1,500 stud fee, register the foal for $300, raise it months or years, train it, and then sell it for $100. Long side note, but I was a first-hand witness/victim to that horse-market crash. I was lucky to have a shirt left on my back.

Yeah, I thought of that afterward. I used to like watching Deadliest Catch when it was 120 degrees here. Was Neil Lane playing the piano? I sort of blocked that entire "date" from my memory bank.

I thought it was odd, like the guys were told to be in that main room, and the guy coming from the FS date was told to go there too. They are working so hard to get controversy and drama. I'm glad the guys aren't falling for it. At least not now that Bennett and Noah are gone. And even those two weren't any fun, it was all so forced and scripted.

Ben was just on TMZ. I guess Rachel was saying he came back (or TPTB brought him back) because he is auditioning to be the next Bach. Ben wouldn't answer the pap when she kept asking him if he was going to be, if he wanted to be, the next Bach. Which doesn't mean anything I guess, except might shed some light on why he came back.

Ben was just on TMZ. Posting what was said in the Spec and Spoiler thread.

Don't give up hope. There's still tomorrow. And truthfully, I thought it was going to be Brendon coming back too.

I know, right? (tm Emily) I didn't like Hannah at all, but her season was anything but boring, like this one is. And Luke ... yeah, that was some good teevee. I don't know if it's the quarantining or what. Maybe it's the lack of travel porn. Come to think of it, I didn't hear anyone say "The La Quinta -- it's the perfect place to fall in love." So there's that! And today, no Bachelor Handshake for any of the guys. What happened between last week and this week? Or yesterday and today, depending on how quickly this is being rushed along.

Correction! T cancelled the cocktail party before the RC. My mistake. The cocktail party and the RC run together for me. Sorry! Hey, Bennett got to come back, not that that wasn't some bullshit too!

THANK YOU. T has two roses and two guys, but NOW she has to have a RC when she's cancelled them before when the guys wanted them. All I can think is, she wants the guys to meet the girls. Again.