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So will we all, since that will be the end of the 10-part series.

It's legal to take photos of anyone and anything from a public venue, like the sidewalk in front of Solano's house; it is trespass being in their yard. However, I doubt the Solano beat down of the photog will be taken anywhere, it's not an integral part of the storyline so matters not. Although I hope the photos will appear in next day's newspaper, which will be lots of fun! I'm guessing Father is the dad of Beth's daughter and Mark married Beth to save her from unwed mother shame when Father skipped town after finding out he was going to be a dad. I don't think that's all that relevant to the storyline, either. But would explain why track-star Beth would settle for plumber-going-nowhere Mark. And her being resentful of him since he's not the one she loves/loved. So she's turned into a cold fish and he's having an affair. Welcome to Everytown, USA, viewers. And what's up with Vince, the plumber's employee who wants to be a partner not knowing how to unplug a drain? Please. Even I can pull a sponge out of a drain trap. Mark offering him $60 was so odd, like there are no plumbing jobs for Vince to do (or Mark, either) since Danny died? Like all the pipes in town suddenly run perfectly? I wish my kitchen pipes would follow Gracepoint's lead. In a town where everyone knows your name, you'd think the admitting nurse/doctor/whomever at the hospital would know Gemma isn't Carver's wife. And what's with everyone walking everywhere? Carver bails out of the hospital and WALKS back to the inn? After he WALKED there after that dinner? And speaking of the dinner, strike another blow for Ellie's being a snotty snot and rude hostess, commenting to her husband: "Oh look, our guest brought flowers, candy AND wine!" instead of just graciously saying, "Oh, thank you so much, you didn't need to bring anything. We are just glad to have you here." (While she's thinking: "In your wrong clothes with your wrong gifts. I hate you for taking my job.")

Ellie tells Carver he's wearing a suit when he comes to dinner. The heck? He just had a jacket on over a casual shirt, like I would expect any guest to wear. He's suppose to come to dinner in ripped up jeans and a t? I think not. Score one for Carver for having manners. And Ellie gets a minus one for pointing out what he is wearing. TRES bad manners and way to make him feel uncomfortable. A great hostess she is not. Gemma going through Carver's wallet squeed me out. Like what else was she snooping for in there? So my theory that Carver was implicated in his wife and/or daughter's murder got tossed out the window. I thought his dinner comment that they moved to Rosemont was important for down the road, when the reporter chick opens her can of worms, although it seemed like unnecessary TMI at the time. I agree that everyone is going to form a lynch mob on Nick Nolte without even finding out what his conviction was for. And yeah, he's lived there a long, long time with no problems. I thought his bringing Danny's phone to the Solanos was revealing. If he were the murderer, he could have just tossed it into the ocean. These guys don't watch TMZ. Mark busting out of the house (which had its shades/curtains open, BTW, how DUH is that) and attacking a pap and destroying his camera while a dozen others recorded it for posterity (and the next day's newspaper) was way over the top. And sets him up for a great lawsuit that the photog is going to win. And where was Pete while this was going on? The scene where Beth asks Tommy for a hug brought tears to my eyes and made my stone-cold heart hurt a bit for the unlikeable Beth Solano. Beth telling Mark she knew about his affair right before the press conference was not nice, but anyone who has been cheated on by a partner might agree it was perfect revenge timing. I actually gave Beth a "Yeah, Girl" when she said it. Creepy Trailer Lady threatening newspaper owner was crazed on her part. Nothing a journalist likes more than digging around and snooping up peoples' pasts. Plus, she needs to fill Carver in on that right away, and buy herself a taser. I'm guessing Carver might be interested in CTL's pack of rapist guys.

I don't blame Hawley for staring at Abbie. Don't rank on him when Abbie is the one dressed to make him look. "Hey Hawley, my eyes are up here." Maybe it's modern times and modern clothes but men still think the same way, Hawley included. Crane maybe, he's just too proper to say. I don't see Abbie having any interest in Hawley at all and I don't foresee the sisters ever fighting over this guy. I don't get why posters are worried this might happen. Abbie's just not the type. And Jenny has already shown us she's the "kiss and use" type when she went to visit Hawley on his boat. If Jenny wanted Hawley, she could have had him right then and there.

Men born in the here and now are still swayed and mesmerized by double-jug yoga pants and low-cut tops. Right, Danny Franks? (Your post cracked me up.) I would expect someone from Crane's era would take a bit longer to become accustomed to it, if ever. Although ratings-wise, I'm guessing Fox knew exactly what it was doing (to both sexes) with that opening yoga scene. Rewind, play, rewind, play, discuss, rewind, play.

Less than 10 seconds in Flash time! I wondered why Barry didn't just speed forward, grab Cold and put him in the police department. But then, we wouldn't have Michael, er, ah, Cold, to look foward to in new eps. So I'm okay with that. I do like Barry, he's cute and engaging. And he really doesn't need a girlfriend so I wish he'd get over Iris, that's sort of a sister/brother thing that could be ick. If Joe is freaked by her teaming with his partner, that would be even more squiggy if she teamed with his "son." When Barry gets older, he'll realize that girls are a distraction *cougholiverqueencough*. For NumberCruncher: SALMON LADDER! Heh.

I was doing something else when this show came on, then I heard Wentworth Miller's voice and stopped immediately to watch. OMG, hello Michael Scoffield, my very first TV boyfriend! I LOL-ed at Cisco's gun being Star's vacuum cleaner with a lot of LEDs. I'm guessing a lot of shows use a vacuum to represent high-tech weapons and only The Flash's Cisco admits it. Interesting we got Felicity's back story on this show and not on that other one. She was just Queen's IT person there. Loved her comment about Oliver and his salmon ladder. That seems to be a constant in her dialogue, as it is in my brain. I can't see the connection between Iris and Barry. He needs to get on with it, she's just not that into you. Although now that her relationship with Joe's partner has been revealed, look for him to be killed soon. Odd that Felicity fits in Arrow but not the cast of this show. What's up with that? The kiss at the end was heartbreaking though. Young people need to learn sometimes they don't get a second chance.

I've Googled both eras of women's dresses and none I've found emphasize the cleavage that much. But, not having lived in either era, I get my clothing knowledge strictly from movies, not exactly a reliable source. I do know that women's ANKLES were shocking, and in the 1920s bathing suits were almost head-to-toe. I don't have a clue what Crane/Katrina would have worn for swimming. I'm guessing people did swim in the 1700s? Thanks, topanga, for clarifying what I was trying to say. I'm living in the 2000s and I found it pretty inappropriate. If this had been any other show, Abbie would have said, "Hey, Crane, my eyes are up here." I has occurred to me that Katrina isn't really in love with Crane, but selected him based on her knowledge that he is a witness, then "spelled" everyone else away from him and her (Abraham). Crane's beer speech about not knowing Katrina after all makes me think maybe a divorce in in their future, if not a death or two. I'm not sure Henry's all there. He's been told by Moloch not to do anything Moloch doesn't tell him to do. Yet, there he goes with the poison spider. (Which reflects on that old wive's tale that everyone swallows X number of spiders every night when sleeping. Don't worry ... it's been proven false!)

Thanks marceline. Crane/Mison is the only reason I'm watching this show. Seeing our world through his eyes is pretty illuminating, for most of what he says makes much sense. Like when he went to apologize to Miss Caroline in person instead of "by thumb." I wish there were more Cranes in today's world. It also was eye-opening when Abbie was drowned and he just accepted her as dead because CPR didn't exist in his time. Tom Mison was on the Today show this morning. It was VERY odd to see Crane's face under Mison's gelled-up pompadore hair, and those tennis shoes with white, glowing soles on his feet ... oh, my. So un-Crane-like. I totally missed a big part of this episode since I didn't pay attention to Big Ash, his hair or physique, and I didn't see a dog with him at all. What is wrong with me? Still, I'd be happy with some Native American tribal-gang involvement, that would be cool.

Thanks for reminding me of one of my favorite Crane minutes. He delivered the line in an attempt at an American southern accent and botched it up hysterically, just like one of us would if we tried to mock a Brit.

That was I who posted the complaint about Abbie's boobaliscious tops, and I stand corrected. Everyone who commented on my complaint is right, all those Edwardian movies show women of that period corseted like hourglasses with boobs on full display. So I guess it's just me who hates Abbie's cleavage. Joe going to Quantico was so off-the-cuff. Abbie got accepted there but did not go, so why would her recommendation get anyone in there? I agree with other posters who say that's just a ruse, we'll see Joe again in another few episodes. I don't mind Hawley. He's nice eye candy and I like that he and Crane are totally snarky to each other. I could care less about Jenny or any relationships any of these people have had in the past. Count me in the group that didn't see that opening yoga scene as even vaguely sexual. Mainly because I am SO against a Crane/Abbie connection. I've not seen anything suggestive in their relationship and don't want to. Maybe that's because I want Crane *Mison* for myself. Heh.

I loved the beginning, with Crane out of his heavy coat -- finally! -- and in loose clothing and with his hair down. The first thing I thought of was the poster here who said he would look too much like Jesus out of his ponytail. However, I can't get past Crane being upset at Abbie saying "buns" when she is wearing skin-tight yoga pants that showed her double jugs all too clearly, plus Crane was staring right into her front "double jugs" hanging out of her boobalicious too-tight tank top. I wish Crane would comment on Abbie and her indecent -- by his standards -- cleavage. He has to be getting a full view every time he looks (down) at her. Hardly something a man of his era would approve of. I liked the monster of the week. A nice break from the story line, and I didn't miss Katrina or Headless at all. I don't know why Crane is so obsessed with Henry being his son. Is he really? Katrina didn't tell him she was pregnant so for all we know, headless is the real father. Plus, Henry looks way older than Crane, even if Crane is 200 years plus, so for Crane to suddenly become paternal is a story line I'd like to see ended. He and Katrina are young enough to start a new family once the "war" is over. Maybe that's season 7? Love that Crane loves his brew. Back in his day, everyone drank beer because the water was unsafe. Abbie has told him many times that water is unsafe today, so there's that! Plus his "I won" with the breathalizer was pretty cute.

Yes! They'll bust a fisherguy who caught a grouper out of season but will let a series of people selling cocaine skate. That sounds like the Gracepoint police department! I did get a kick out of Carver telling Creepy Trailer Lady she needed to sign to get her key back. Sorry, Miller, but Carver is my favorite. You have already proved you would have made a cr*p department head (or whatever that position was Carver got while she was on a two-week vaca).

Thanks, Actionmage. I had forgotten the newspaper report (Owen?) is Miller's nephew. So that means Miller's sister is the one who has drained her son's (Owen the reporter) bank account dry? I didn't realize the connection at the time. So, the burning boat ... Mark's? But supposedly blood samples have already been removed from that, although we didn't hear this week if Danny really did have a cut on the bottom of his foot. I'm suspecting Miller's son Tommy of the murder now! Ideally, he would have teamed up with Beth, I dislike her that much. There's losing a son, then there's knowing how to choose your words without alienating everyone in town. If I were Miller, I'm not so sure I'd be wanting to spend any time with any of the Solanos after the investigation is over. I'd think that San Francisco would have much more crime to report on than a kid being murdered in a whale-watching town. I still don't know why that reporter is wanting to infiltrate herself into that place, unless she has an agenda against Carver. Who here has ever invited their boss to a family dinner without including a lot of other people in the office as a buffer? *crickets*

Does everyone in Eureka, pop. 27,000, claim to know everyone in town on a personal basis? In my town of 1,700, everyone does know everyone else because no one moves away after graduating high school. And everyone knows everyone else's business. If they don't know it, they will for sure make something up about you based on observation. Police department: Two. Newspaper: One four-page weekly. Question: Why is Pete the police guy staked out at Danny's house? The family shouldn't be sequestered inside, plus they have not been threatened. I don't get it. Even if Mike were arrested for Danny's murder, if he was bailed/bonded out a police guard still wouldn't be keeping watch over him/the family. Danny wasn't killed inside the house nor taken. It's not like the family is in danger of being murdered. Are they? I was surprised in the first episode, when Beth went running onto the beach where Danny's body was, the uniformed police guy just called, "Hey, stop lady" instead of "Hey, Beth, get back here." If everyone knows everyone else in Gracepoint, like Miller keeps telling Carver. Although I do remember it being said police from other towns were being sent to help with the investigation. So: Never mind. One underlying message in this show is that no one really knows anyone. So, I will just go along for the ride!

It boggles me that Chantelle is eliminated, then comes back and in her first competitions wins them both. WTH? If she was that great, why did she get sent home? Oh wait ... drah-ma. Never mind. It seemed to me that others modeled better in the dark than Chantelle but their photos were not shown. The photo of Will that was shown was better than Chantelle's IMO. I agree Tyra's clothes have been eye-burning at panel. But her hair ... good lord. That's the real topper. (Pun intended.) It would be funny to see Kelly wearing Tyra's clothing and hair. At least Miss J has a sense of style, one I can appreciate anyway.

I could spend the entire hour staring at Will. He is gorgeous, regardless of what he is wearing or how he is wearing his hair. I'm with Matthew in wanting to kiss him!

I thought that scene was so awkward, and her asking Carver if he's drunk dialing. She would have been the one serving him drinks so, no, he wasn't drunk because she knows he doesn't drink. Doesn't everyone nowadays fool with their phone while waiting for dinner? When she sat down, I got the impression she was coming on to him. Maybe so he would see how hot she was, the same way Mark sees her. Ha ha! I am POSITIVE the coke was found under the floorboards in the daughter's room, not Danny's. That's why Miller was asking her about it and we got the "bought for the Seattle couple" story line. If it was found in Danny's room, we wouldn't have gotten that info, Danny being dead and all. I'm with the poster who has been having trouble remembering names. I had to read here and watch four episodes before I could remember who was whom, and even now I'm not positive about names. For a time, I thought the mom (Beth!) was the daughter and the daughter was the one pregnant. So it took me a while to figure out it was the mom, not the daughter, who was freaking out about no chips in the house. LOVE the "rude not ginger" clip. Thanks for posting. For anyone wanting to hear David Tennant's real accent, he is the narrator on PBS's three-part penguin series that's been currently playing. Anna Gunn is wearing a wig? It looks like the same hair Skylar had, except Skylar took better care of herself. Miller could use a brush and a mirror. That police department is as huge as Chicago PD. Seems odd that a teeny tiny town where everyone knows your name would have that many cops. The newspaper appears to have three people working in it. It must be a weekly? And I beg to differ, but as creepy as everyone is in Gracepoint, small town people would know about EVERYTHING that happened there. Trust me, I live in a small town. So creepy trailer woman would be known as just that, Creepy Trailer Woman. Plus a kid getting killed wouldn't keep me from coming to watch the whale migration. There's hardly a town left anywhere where someone hasn't been murdered lately.

The cocaine being found under the floor boards in the daughter's room makes me think there is more to the drug-side of the story. Why pull up floor board to stash a wee packet of blow that's just "being returned"? And why would the cop search pull up floor boards anyway? I'm wondering why Beth is hiding her pregnancy. Is Mark not the father? Is maybe Father the father? I'm speculating that the woman voicemail Carver called was his (now-deceased) wife and maybe he was put on trial/proven innocent of her murder and that's the Rosewill (?) case he's moved to Gracepoint to get away from. We saw a photo of a woman that's in his wallet when he tossed it on the bed. Got a kick out of Danny's family insisting they know every detail of the investigation, then freaking out when they see the shoplifting tape. Just more proof that everyone in this town has something to hide. I wish someone would just let Beth have it after she rants on about everyone. She could use a good tongue lashing. I know I'm giving her one from my couch. Like another poster said, her ranking on everyone is making me think she has more to do with the murder than she's letting on. I was disappointed when Carver was more chatty this episode, with the "eager beaver" comments. I liked him better when he was a stonefaced d*ck.