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I don’t think it’s accurate to say they were killed for spreading knowledge- rather, idealogy comes first, and if the facts don’t match the idealogy, the facts must be propaganda. Given this, it actually makes sense that they would reach out to find the “real” facts from another source in the universe.

Great episode, but terrible title, because it’s not the what if. It’s “what if Hela were punished like Thor was?”

Cheryl was one of the cops who worked for Gordon, right?

I enjoyed the representation of Jin’s partial understanding of Chinese - that was clever and effective.

Just watched the whole season yesterday. So good! When y'all talk about the premise, you mention the work/life balance, which is definitely part of it. But it's also clearly an analogy for having children/child abuse. As Reghabi told Mark, the innies didn't ask to be brought into this world, and were created to satisfy an emotional need of the outies. There's nothing inherently wrong with that (IMO, as a person that wants children...), but then the problem is that they don't treat the innies (children) as their own independent people, but just as extensions of themselves, and that leads to horrible experiences for the innies. And this is a thing a lot of parents do!

Okay, I know IT is in charge in the book, so I’m not sure how that’s relevant. As far as we know, they still are in the show. The question was if there was a Security department that worked as the muscle for IT, which is pretty much what Judicial is doing on the show.

Not sure what in your post is a response to mine?

Yes, it’s revealed at the end of part 1 (of 5) in the first book - it tells us what Holston sees when he takes off his helmet. Probably because it was published serially, so at that point it was just the ending of a short story. —- I’m wondering at how it seems like they’ll be changing Lucas’s role in a major way, and how they’ll do the rest of the story with that. —- In the books, isn’t there a Security department? Seems like Judicial is just that with a dollop of red herring on top

Season 1 doesn’t even cover all of the first book. I don’t remember when exactly Juliet’s cleaning happens - probably around 75%. Stealing that tape is how they found out it was shitty. My thinking for why they clean is pity. They see the green lands think they’ll be living great, and do it for those poor saps still in the Silo.

Another thought related to my last post and the lawyers. What if the real lawyers did say they could fight it, but obviously Streamberry didn't want to show that? So it's not part of the fictive levels we saw.

But did she actually do those things? We already saw that the Salma Hayek version of Joan was notably worse than the Annie Murphy version. We have to therefore assume that the Annie Murphy version is notably worse than Source Joan.

It's not. At the time of the show, it was the scientific name/theory for homosexual/queer people in general (the idea being that an invert has had their masculinity/femininity inverted).

WRT the phrase “will they won’t they” - has there ever been a show where the end result was “they won’t “?

I feel like ratings is hard to judge independently when in a series like this. Are people not watching Andor because they are not interested in it itself, or because they did watch the last two series and got turned off by the lower quality? (I didn't watch Andor at first for the reason, until a friend gushed enough to make me give it a try.)

That's actually just fascist propaganda. The trains didn't actually run on time.

I think it definitely depends on how much you are spending on other things. If you are spending a bunch of money on the wedding, but some of that money isn't going towards having an open bar (aka for the benefit of the guests, not just yourself), that yeah, that looks bad. I also agree with all the comments that say if people think Mallory and Nikki weren't representing Mr. Immortal well, they were vastly underestimating how much he was on the hook for. One thing I really like about this show is that it makes the MCU feel more full. Previously (at least on Earth), you could have the impression that the only powered people there are are the ones you've seen origin stories for. But this is making clear that, no, they're all around. We've just seen the big names (the Avengers).

I guess I can see what people are saying about Tina Fey being smug, but the character of Cinda is written as very smug, so it’s well cast.

She wasn't a diplomat from New Asgard, she was a diplomat to New Asgard from Alfheim. (Unless I misheard.) So it would be the equivalent of the US ambassador to France committing a crime in the UK and expecting diplomatic immunity because of it.

I was thinking about how some of the things in the timeline stretch credulity by keeping Dream's capture in 1916 but moving his release forward 30 years, like the ages of Alex and John. But on the other hand, I think it really improved the Hob story to have Dream not actually show up in 1989, but to have Hob still wait for him, and for Dream to still show up when he's free.

I'm not talking about critics, I'm talking about normal people (like the ones in this topic).

I do not understand any of the people making comments about Jen's skill as a lawyer when we barely saw her act as on in this episode.

I don't think that's what they showed at all. I think they implied Hulk is still faster and stronger, and smarter is really a matter of about a subject - Bruce is still a scientist, etc. They did show Jen as being better at controlling hulk, but they also belabored why that would be the case. In fact, if you think about it, it ties back to Hulk first getting control back in Avengers - "That's my secret, Cap, I'm always angry." Jen is always angry and always controlling it, so she had more Hulk-control from the jump.

One thing about the cereal convention is that serial killers aren’t really as big of a thing nowadays. To update it to 2022, we’d have to make it mass shooters or domestic terrorists. (1970-2000 is known as the “golden age of serial killers,” so it was very fitting at the time. In fact, the number of serial killers peaked in 1989, when Sandman first came out - maybe Morpheus really did have an effect.)

It’s current day, whenever this takes place (2020 or 2022 or whatever). The show implied that Hob bought the bar after the old bartender made the comments about how people with money can do whatever they want, and he was there because he was running the place.

One thing I've liked is the Scouserness of Dan - complaining about ending up on Manchester, barbs about Sheffield - and, in fact, the whole dynamic of light teasing he has with Yas