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Ooo I'll join this too. 1- AoS. This season is much, much better and the new characters (hi Mockingbird!) have added to the show for the better. @DannyFranks start watching AoS again! Tyra Collette IS worth it! (pours one out for FNL) 2- The Flash. It's light-hearted fun on a Tuesday night. 3- Gotham. Still 50/50 for me but it does seem to be finding it's feet now. 4- Arrow. 3x01 was my breaking point. Not even Felicity can bring me back to this show. I don't watch Constantine so I can't rank it.

Ngl, I did get a good kick out of watching Daniel's BS be brought under the spotlight, with Nick's backing too! James though...what a arrogant little s**** he is and I hope both he and Daniel are gone soon.

Two things: 1) I didn't that realize she was Berlin's daughter until the conversation about her father so well played show. Nicely done. 2) The FBI sure do hand out nice cars to their agents. I especially like the silver on Agent Navabi's car.

"I am sure the linguists among you have picked up on this but they are speaking Czech." Another stellar episode. Really hope more people tune in because this is my favourite Monday show right.

All I did was answer a question! LOL! Jk, I do think it's a terribly stupid corner that they've backed themselves into and there are multiple ways that they could've done justice to Laurel's character a long time ago. Unfortunately, it didn't happen and we're stuck with this.

The answer's pretty straight forward imo: they're stuck on the "Dinah Laurel Lance is the BC" narrative and have tried everything possible to make it happen. This has, in turn, made their writing incredibly inconsistent as they try and find a crucible for Laurel that'll stick. All the other female characters have been relatively blank canvases for them i.e. they haven't had the burden of a pre-determined narrative stuck to them from the minute they stepped onto our screens. This isn't an excuse for the show runners because if they had the slightest feel for their audience, they would have dispensed with the "Laurel is the BC" narrative ages ago and made her into something else.

De-lurking to say that AoS is kicking Arrow's ass at the moment. The addition of Agent Bobbi Morse has elevated AoS while subtracting Sara Lance has dragged Arrow to No. 3 on my comic TV shows list (1st being AoS, 2nd being The Flash). I appreciate everyone else's input though and it's helping me decide whether or not to watch this episode due to Nyssa being back.

So I just caught up with this show and watched tonight's episode live. I honestly can't believe I missed out on it (okay I know why I did, the title put me off). This show is honestly just plain hilarious! Everything from the narrator to the white commentary writing to the various crazy plots going on, it's quickly become my Monday night guilty pleasure and I'll be telling as many of my friends as I can to watch this show. I'm still not keen on Rafael (Rafe?) but otherwise this is a pretty stellar cast. Also want to shout out Bridget Regan and Diane Guerrero from OITNB.

As someone who has seen interviews of AJ Cook, I'll just say that you're way off base with this.

I'm with you JustMyOpinion so we can be a party of two! :) I thought it was an okay episode considering there have been worse episodes over the last few seasons. Don't get the JJ hate either *shrug*

So this might be a dumb question but: why is Caity Lotz still doing promo for Arrow? https://twitter.com/dallascomiccon/status/523523925876424704

She's a better person than me because I wouldn't have mentioned anything Laurel-related at all (yes I'm still very, very bitter).

Okay so just chiming in again (breaking my current "I don't want to talk about Arrow anymore" rule), I should've clarified when I said I watched the panel live. I meant I was actually at the panel as well and heard the same as what Orion and writersblocks51 did. It's a shame that none of the videos so far have been clear but there was a definite reaction by the audience to the "I wish she died" comment. Too bad the producers weren't there to hear it and poor Stephen had to field the questions/aggro instead although I doubt it would've sunk in for them. ban1o you and I are cool. You did apologize once I pointed out what I had heard.

I think the first thing you hear on the Youtube video is Stephen's reaction. I could be wrong though (it's late for this east-coaster so I might be fuzzy on the timeline) so just be on the lookout for the full panel.

That particular tidbit happened at the beginning of the Q&A IIRC, which is cut off just as the Youtube video starts. I watched the entire panel live and Orion definitely wasn't making that bit up. I don't like Laurel but I wasn't sure whether to laugh or face-palm in embarrassment when it happened. As for the panel itself, it was interesting to hear his thought process about certain things and I chuckled at his reaction to the guy who called him Oliver.

So I just finished watching this after my despair at Arrow tonight. Not quite sure what to make of Garcia's SL tonight, skipped through most of it but appreciated the 1v1 with the prisoner and Morgan showing up at the end. I also actually enjoyed the case tonight although they keep spoiling who the killer is way too early!

*pours one out for MY Black Canary* Sara Lance/Caity Lotz you will be missed.

Caity come back! *cries desperately at my laptop screen*

I mean, I'm not coping with Sara's death at all but if they kill Felicity they can kiss their show goodbye because the ratings will tank hard. Seeing that they don't care what it takes to make Laurel the BC, we better start praying for Felicity :( Ugh...I'm going to go and watch Criminal Minds to stop thinking about the mess I just witnessed.

I don't care why they did it. Their tone-deafness with regards to Laurel makes whatever they have to say about this not worth listening to for me.

Fuck Guggenheim et al. Fuck them! Arrow is not on my list of must-watch TV anymore. EDIT: I'm now just chuckling at this because man, they did the one thing most people didn't want to see happen. Aarg!

This is the absolute truth. That outfit was awful! What was she thinking? "How do I manage to become relevant again? Oh I know, an offensive outfit at Simon's house!"

I'm not gonna lie, I barely pay attention to the auditions at the Judges' Houses. All I want to see is who went through and then wait for the live shows so thanks aradia22 for always keeping us updated.

You're right junemeatcleaver it's not bad at all. Her songs can be pretty catchy sometimes.

Interesting views in this thread. As a long time viewer of CM, I never once entertained the thought of JJ/Reid. Now that could be because I just don't see any of the team dating each other and I've missed all the cues but I just don't see how their relationship could be anything but platonic. However, I don't think I'll ever buy that JJ is in love with Will and would've preferred her to be paired up with someone else. Also, I never quite understood the fandom's resentment of JJ. Every single member of the team has traits that make you shake your head countless times but for some reason, JJ seems to get the majority of ire. Do I think that the whole contract situation with CBS/AJ messed up the character growth or timeline of JJ? Yes but I don't buy into the theory of "oh they've made her into Super!JJ" either. I do acknowledge my thoughts could make me into my own little party of one here :)