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Thanks for the explanations PityFree and Elizzikra

Having not seen the episode I am curious about the rag on the stick. Does it look like she bought it or just put it together and was using it for the first time?

I think she only looks good when she has had her makeup and hair done professionally - and even then sometimes it doesn't work to her advantage. I am remembering the hair style with the bump it which was not a good look at all. She looks OK when she is wearing the cobalt blue top and blue contact lenses. Her everyday look is a real mess. How about a hint? I also have DISH and refuse to pay extra for the channels they just removed from my package. I'll be counting on everyone's comments when it airs though. Thanks in advance.

So true. Who was it who said that wearing sweatpants or pants with elastic waistbands is admitting defeat?

My theory is that when someone is obese and experiencing general discomfort e.g. constricting clothes, aching joints, and sore feet that denying oneself comfort food is one more area of discomfort that must be endured. Eating refined carbs and fast food is an easy and quick way of alleviating one of those issues. It's a short term solution that leads to bigger problems.

I think she would be even more toxic than she is as a disabled morbidly obese woman. I think she would be a spoiled mean girl while still being coddled by her parents. Glenn would be bribing her to find employment and she would act even more like a pretty princess. Nothing would change the extreme narcissism that she constantly displays. She would have no reason to stop manipulating those around her because she has never learned adult coping skills. Her problem is not her size it is her personality.

Well said, Ketzel. I have been thinking that Whitney says outrageous things to get a response from Babs to indicate that she has gotten under her skin. I think she lives to hear her mother sigh, "Oh Whitney." I don't know how Glenn and Babs raised such an enormous toddler but she still has mannerisms of a little girl who has been doted upon. I just can't figure out why Babs lets Whitney take her shopping for age inappropriate clothing.

You're all on FIRE! I can't wait to watch it. Love the snapshots and captions John M.

I defer.

Clarewalks, those are really cute swimsuits. I confess I have been mulling over how Twit styled her Torrid top and then wore it as it should be seen. Maybe she is getting the clothes free or at a discount from Torrid since she doesn't shy away from mentioning the brand name. Perhaps they saw her roll up the top and read her the riot act. (The rolled version was from Hawaii which was in August while the other version was from the cruise which was in December.) And I think she mismatched the top and bottom because she could not fit into the matching grannie panty. The black one that she wore looks to have a lot more give.

Peanut Ball: yeah I was hungry at the time and thought food too. Where is the information about Whitney being disavowed by the HAES movement? I

Glen hired 27 math tutors for her in high school?

You're close Buddy is...Boo Bear

Thanks for the clarification monagatuna. Actually she might have purged. I seem to recall that in her book (not that I've read it, perhaps someone else can chime in) she stopped purging because she was using birth control pills and didn't want to vomit them up and become pregnant. Given how insatiable her appetites are, I wouldn't be surprised if she had a lot of sex when she first got to college. I somehow thing something bad might have happened during that time and her reaction was to subconsciously hide behind the fat.

I have never looked into this and am not going to look online because I don't want advertisements but I am wondering if being bulimic has to include purging. I had the vague idea that binge eating on a regular basis could be classified as bulimia. I have known several overweight bulimics but never got around to asking them about the details. tdanaher : Great work! I haven't watched them yet so maybe the clip of her dancing during her prime (cough, cough) was included. I saw it the other day on a rerun and I am no professional judge but I thought she wasn't very good back then either. Thin yes, but a great dancer - I think not.

You left off the part about ending the statement with a loud donkey bray which leads me to wonder which of her friends laughs at her outrageous statements. Would she still be doing it if she hadn't been receiving positive feedback from somewhere?

That bothered me as well. As did her wheedling him to put on the swim cap. The poor guy was looking rather overheated when he wore it because he wasn't in the pool. I think she learned early on that if she whines enough she gets her way. I wish he had just declined. (Baby steps.)

Thanks for the confirmation on that Dot. I'm not sure if the credentialing is as difficult for ETOH/Substance abuse counselors as for guidance counselors though. In my neck of the woods there are several substance abuse counselors with only HS diplomas but additional training who were past substance abusers.

I think it was a reprehensible thing for someone who has a hard time managing her own life to do. Yes, pigs may be herd animals but dogs are pack animals and they do just fine with their human as their pack. It has been well established that pigs have higher IQs than dogs. A pot bellied pig that has been living in a house might have a difficult transition to a barnyard. BTW we looked into getting one of them at one point. We visited the breeder and met the parents and the entire litter. We decided against it because the local kennel would not board it when we travelled. Also, they were very loud and although they liked being petted their bristly skin wasn't as nice as petting a dog. So we almost got a Schipperke because the breed slightly resembles pot bellied pigs.

My thoughts on Whitney saying that Tal was in recovery: First, it was a really lousy thing to do. She is hardly a friend - to any of them. But can anyone explain that closet video that Twit and Tal made a while back when it seemed as if they were both in an altered state? They were in her closet and she appeared to be topless and wrapped in a sheet. There were several comments on PTV that both were either drunk or high. Perhaps 2 years is a "very long time" or he is in recovery from some other substance. It would also explain why he was a "school counselor" during season 1 but is now doing a different type of counseling. I'm thinking that since he had some credentials and training it would have been less difficult for him to become a substance abuse counselor.

She probably needed to eat - the quantity of hyper palatable food she is accustomed to having.

Thanks to late night re-runs of earlier seasons I have been watching some of them while exercising. I'm pretty sure she is barefoot in one of her early BGDClasses, as are most of the other participants.

Welcome to the best snark around. I have got to say that for a new viewer you have perfectly encapsulated the show . As for me, I am fascinated by how someone with almost no talent has become so successful with so little effort. There is radio station I listen to where I have the same fascination. Two women who can barely string words together in a coherent manner and one is probably dyslexic so she can't read the notes provided by her producer. They are sent on expensive trips and foul it up so completely but instead of being reprimanded or replaced they are rewarded.

Sorry that I can't provide the source (because I can't find it) but evidently there had been a magazine article in which Hunter described himself as being in recovery. Perhaps he decided to go home for more structure and support. If he did have a substance abuse problem it explains Whitney's addictions yet raises a whole lot of questions regarding family dynamics and genetics in the Thore family.

Agree x 1000. In fact I referenced the book that explains this. The fast food industry uses a lot of the same techniques for addicting its customers that the cigarette industry once did. Some of the major food processors are either owned by tobacco companies or are somehow related to them. They have done studies for just the right proportions of sugar/salt/fat. I highly recommend The End of Overeating: Curbing the Insatiable American Appetite by David Kessler M.D. to explain the link between processed food and obesity.