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Same here and same here! @teebax you were awesome! My son's T-Ball game got called off due to rain tonight and usually I'd be bummed but that meant I was able to watch your episode.

I'm catching up on the thread and was waiting for this comparison. That was exactly who I compared him to as well.

As a fellow Tara, I would have been rooting for you regardless but now I'll have double the reason! Congratulations!

I loved that scene and was really impressed with all involved. McKayla for her determination and allowing Shellie to help her, Shellie for being encouraging and respectful by asking permission to help (as opposed to just forcing her opinion or advice) and especially Caelen for his support. Having a supportive partner is huge during those difficult first few months of breastfeeding and I feel like it's gotta be rare for a teenage guy to be so gung ho about it.

At the GWL we went to there was a Code Brown situation. The whole pool was drained and it was out of commission for quite a while (which was very frustrating for my impatient 4 year old lol). I still wanna know why Leah had to go all the way out to Cali to stay at GWL. That don't make no sense.

I just wanted to address this point. My mom is a bartender and begins her shift at 11am. She has a lot of regulars come in then that are third shifters just getting off work and having a drink before going home to bed. So Barb just might be able to find herself her hard working, decent man at a bar during the day.

It took me months for my cycles to regulate after I got off birth control so I can understand, if she wanted to get pregnant right away, why she would have gotten off of it prior to her wedding day. I don't think it's irresponsible or impulsive, she and Cole have always been on the same page when it comes to having children. My DH and I were the same way, we started trying a few months after we were married (it didn't happen as quickly for us but we were ready for it). I think as long as a couple is in agreement then there isn't anything wrong with them getting pregnant right away.

You're correct. She's doing a Twitter Q&A about her pregnancy and said she wasn't pregnant at the reunion. She's due on Valentine's Day.

Ah you beat me by a minute! I was just coming here to post this! I'm a little surprised she got pregnant before her wedding but I am SO excited for her, Cole and Aubree!!!

I do agree that George has made some comments and done a few things that make me take pause but I thought he said that he had a tech job of some sort that he didn't want to leave which was why they moved near his family.

Hey girl, your shaper is showing!

This episode sounds intense!

Right, ew how gross. 30 is sooooo old. Domestic violence charges are just fine but no oldies or shorties!

I find it especially funny when she harps about a high chair. A car seat, yes that's necessary but a high chair is not exactly a necessity. But I guess then she wouldn't be able to strap him down and ignore him, dude. Speaking of car seats, did Nathan even have one when he went on his little kidnapping mission? How exactly did he plan on getting his child home? Although with the lack of car seat safety displayed by all the Teen Mom participants it wouldn't surprise me if he just let him roll around in the cab.

I think you're right. I know at one point someone back on TWoP posted a blog post by one of the older Houska girls where she addressed the Teen Mom stuff (I can't remember what her blog was dedicated to but it definitely wasn't typically centered around reality TV) and she talked about her family life. I should see if I can find the blog post. ETA: I found her blog but not the particular blog post I remember reading: http://salutesandsmiles.blogspot.com/?m=1

Chemistry? All I saw was complete and total indifference. She doesn't even really hate him anymore, she just really does not give two shits about him. It's so very clear that she's over him. Exactly.

To me, that doesn't sound like a shitty edit. That sounds like he was a shitty person and it aired on TV. MTV didn't just edit Adam sitting around playing on his phone rather than engaging with his girls. Now I'm not perfect, I do check my phone while I'm with my kids. But I also am with them 24/7. Adam sees his every other weekend and MTV probably only films one of those weekends. If he can't put down his phone for one weekend, for a few hours, while being filmed and at least pretend to be a decent person/father then there is nothing to edit. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a damn duck. And it is weird that Chelsea kept changing her story about the text, I'm not sure what that's about, but the bottom line is that Adam didn't show up. He'd rather lift weights. I tend to lean towards the side that thinks Chels shouldn't have to hold Adam's hand and guide him on how to look up a damn date or call a number. She let him know about it (which I think goes beyond what she had to do) and all he had to do was look up the info and show up. He couldn't even do that. I don't blame Chelsea for praising Cole and pushing him a little bit. He was there for that little girl when her own father couldn't be bothered.

Sad Panda makes me want to throw things at my TV: "Chelsea, you're the LAST of the TM2 girls to get engaged!" To me he sure didn't make it seem like that was actually a good thing. And trying to make her feel guilty about keeping some things of her life private. Shut it. "Tell Aubree her father has a condition that makes it hard for him to arrive." Oh so lie to the kid? Chels kept repeating she didn't want to lie to her. I don't necessarily agree that she has to tell Aubree EVERYTHING about why Adumb can't make it but don't try to blame it on some made up condition. If he wants to be a father to her, her has to show up to the boring stuff. My husband hates to dance but I know damn well if my daughter wants to go to a daddy/daughter dance he'd be there. You just gotta suck it up. "You need to work it out for Isaac." But forget Lincoln right? I do get it, Isaac is a sensitive kid and this is going to be rough for him. But it's not going to be any better to grow up in an angry household with yelling and fighting and passive aggressiveness. And he has a stable father figure (and, at least for now, a stable family in Jo, Vee and ViVi) but Lincoln doesn't have anyone else but those two. I realize he's too young to understand right now but it would have been nice if he at least got considered.

I think Piscatella said he would recommend to the judge that she get 3-5 years on her sentence so I assume he can't just tack it on himself.

I had to do the same thing! I thought his whole "the old Jeremy is gone" speech was a nod to an actor change or something. He just looks SO different.

So crazy spot on. And, FWIW, I bet Cole is fantastic in bed. He seems like someone who would make sure his girl gets off. Adumb is the poster boy for someone who gets in, gets off and rolls over and goes to sleep. Chelsea probably never realized at the time that that wasn't great sex.

Most of what I wanted to comment on has been covered thoroughly. I just want to cosign how absolutely terrified I was for Kaiser. Poor little boy was just being your typical baby and was getting screamed at and manhandled so roughly. It hurt my heart. And the way they all just scream, curse and fight in front of all the kids is really, really upsetting. I'm not a fan of Kail and I know there is more behind the divorce than what was shown but taking this episode at face value, Javi was just so cold. It's great to be honest but I just felt his whole "I'll resent you for the rest of my life if you aren't continously knocked up" really rubbed me the wrong way. It was gross. I too laughed about Leah saying that Jeremy wanted her back. I hope she wasn't referring to that dinner we saw a few episodes back. Chelsea and Cole were awesome as usual. I loved Cole's excitement over his ring and their shared enthusiasm over MOAR BAAAAABIES! was adorable. You can tell they are really compatible and on the same page as to where they want their future to go. I also liked the little clip of their bickering over the crowded parking lot. I think it kinda highlighted the fact that Cole isn't a huge fan of being filmed. I just think he's definitely an introvert. The baby voices do bug me but that's just such a small complaint regarding an otherwise lovely couple.

Didn't she also have an abortion before Isaac was born? I thought she said that in her book or something. She doesn't strike me as the poster child for safe sex. And condoms aren't 100% effective either. I think it's completely possible the baby was another man's. ETA: I just checked and saw her abortion was the result of a rape so obviously that was no fault of her own.

Ding ding ding we have a winner. It seems like Adam only cares about being a good dad if he can impress someone (besides, of course, the person who really matters. His daughter).

Exactly! If you have a concern over something your child said, just go to the source. My daughter once told me that her teacher lied to her and tricked her into sitting on the carpet at school. She was very upset about this. So of course I talked to her teacher and cleared up the misunderstanding. Ali is a sweetheart and so is my daughter but they are still just kids and kids sometimes exaggerate or even straight up make things up. I really believe that Miranda DID help her but was probably having an overwhelming moment and maybe even spoke a little harshly to Ali out of frustration. And THAT is the thing that stuck with Ali. Of course, that's just me speculating but that's why Leah needs to clear things up instead of just automatically assuming Miranda is this evil stepmother.